Vykosa:
You have to taunt, then bash, all for 3 seconds of maim that you can apply every 15 seconds. (Single target)
A much better set to use for maim....
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knightmare+Set
(All enemies in a 8 meter radius)
It's probably the worst monster set in the game. It's embarrassing how worthless it is compared to the difficulty of the dungeon it's acquired in.
Only useful to add to your collection currently.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »
As I said, it was an example.
You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.
What's so hard to understand indeed...😖
We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".
what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »
As I said, it was an example.
You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.
What's so hard to understand indeed...😖
We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".
what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.
You guys keep using that word...
OG_Kaveman wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »
As I said, it was an example.
You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.
What's so hard to understand indeed...😖
We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".
what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.
You guys keep using that word...
Look. I know it means second to last. I was just using the same language as the person I have quoted there. You can see I literally just copy/pasted from that post. You really are not saying anything important to the discussion.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »
As I said, it was an example.
You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.
What's so hard to understand indeed...😖
We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".
what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.
You guys keep using that word...
Look. I know it means second to last. I was just using the same language as the person I have quoted there. You can see I literally just copy/pasted from that post. You really are not saying anything important to the discussion.
What you both stated was inaccurate/meaningless, though. There is no “penultimate” way to apply major or minor maim. Application of major or minor maim is not a sequential thing. Words have meaning, and it matters that we use them accurately.
Sure, it's a set for very specific uses: To mitigate a few very hard-hitting attacks. If you wanted to apply Minor Maim, you don't need a five-piece set like Knightmare for that. You just use Heroic Slash. Or Dark Talons. Or Thurvokun. Knightmare is a waste of a five-piece bonus, most of the time.
Vykosa provides Major Maim, i.e. it stacks with the Minor one. Taunt is a given anyway, and with just a bash, you can mitigate a lot of incoming damage from dragon breath or other special attacks.
You don't use that set throughout random dungeons.@Kell:
If I'm not mistaken, a minor and a major of the same effect are stackable, I do use heroic slash, so for once every 15 seconds, if a taunt and heroic slash are kept up, for 3 seconds I can plan a 45% mitigation. Don't want to pretend I do know a thing about tanking, don't even know if it would work on every boss, but it is an entertaining thought.
Like Varana said, it would be for hard hitting attacks, It might end up as a swappable for specific bosses, or indeed as a curiosa in the collection.
EDIT: Varana already mentioned Major and Minor being stackable, proper respect where respect is due.
Glad to have confirmation!
Main point is there's better ways to apply maim, as you both agree. My example was just that. An example. If I had a choice between Knightmare or Vykosa, I'd choose Knightmare every time. The point stands...waste of 5 piece or not, I'd still choose the 5 piece.
Also to the point the set isn't comparable to the difficulty of the dungeon it's placed in wasn't addressed by either of you. Still great effort for a very situational monster set.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »
As I said, it was an example.
You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.
What's so hard to understand indeed...😖
We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".
what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.
You guys keep using that word...
Look. I know it means second to last. I was just using the same language as the person I have quoted there. You can see I literally just copy/pasted from that post. You really are not saying anything important to the discussion.
What you both stated was inaccurate/meaningless, though. There is no “penultimate” way to apply major or minor maim. Application of major or minor maim is not a sequential thing. Words have meaning, and it matters that we use them accurately.
Again, look, I was NOT the person that used that word first. It was the person I was quoting. It doesn't matter what exactly is the meaning of the word, in common usage the way we are using it is fine. This is not an English class, it is a gaming forum, son. I suppose you jump down peoples throat that use "decimate" in a way that that implies total destruction and not just 10% destruction. How pedantic. Also, again, you are not adding anything of value to the conversation.
goldenarcher1 wrote: »Not sure about Major Maim or General Fracture,but Knightmare was ok.
Vykosa:Would be interested in Vykosa's helmet, I've PvE tanked a little in the past,
Picked up the shoulders once with an Undaunted key. Recently started up the tank again,
Curious how the 30% dmg reduction would work out.
On holiday, so no chance to buy anything from my AP. Better luck next time.
You have to taunt, then bash, all for 3 seconds of maim that you can apply every 15 seconds. (Single target)
A much better set to use for maim....
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knightmare+Set
(All enemies in a 8 meter radius)
It's probably the worst monster set in the game. It's embarrassing how worthless it is compared to the difficulty of the dungeon it's acquired in.
Only useful to add to your collection currently.