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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

ESO GOLDEN VENDOR ITEMS – 2019/09/13

  • Cadbury
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    Poor Vykosa. Is there any other monster set so hated and reviled?
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • DreadDaedroth
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    Purchased Vykosa.
    The howl is so cool, shame for the underwhelming effect.
  • Kolzki
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    Ineresting lack of comment on Caluurion’s here. The magblades must be lurking in stealth.
  • SirSchmoopy1535
    Kel wrote: »
    Vykosa:
    You have to taunt, then bash, all for 3 seconds of maim that you can apply every 15 seconds. (Single target)

    A much better set to use for maim....
    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knightmare+Set
    (All enemies in a 8 meter radius)

    It's probably the worst monster set in the game. It's embarrassing how worthless it is compared to the difficulty of the dungeon it's acquired in.

    Only useful to add to your collection currently.

    If you're PVP yeah, but PVE wise unless you're MIN/MAX-ing for Score Runs in trials, PVE Tanks are pretty free to use their choice of Monster Sets, and easy to use since tanks taunting is a thing. This set was made for Tanks not tanky PVP-ers.

    This set was changed once already when it was in PTS, the bash mechanic is so the player has control over when to debuff occurs rather than depending on 100% uptime, I imagine one of the best applications would be on the Final Boss of HRC, bash him right before the Channeled Sweeps starts.

  • Aurielle
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Kel wrote: »

    As I said, it was an example.
    You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.

    What's so hard to understand indeed...😖

    We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".

    what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.

    You guys keep using that word...

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    Edited by Aurielle on September 15, 2019 3:31PM
  • OG_Kaveman
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Kel wrote: »

    As I said, it was an example.
    You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.

    What's so hard to understand indeed...😖

    We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".

    what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.

    You guys keep using that word...

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    Look. I know it means second to last. I was just using the same language as the person I have quoted there. You can see I literally just copy/pasted from that post. You really are not saying anything important to the discussion.
  • Aurielle
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Kel wrote: »

    As I said, it was an example.
    You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.

    What's so hard to understand indeed...😖

    We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".

    what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.

    You guys keep using that word...

    img]

    Look. I know it means second to last. I was just using the same language as the person I have quoted there. You can see I literally just copy/pasted from that post. You really are not saying anything important to the discussion.

    What you both stated was inaccurate/meaningless, though. There is no “penultimate” way to apply major or minor maim. Application of major or minor maim is not a sequential thing. Words have meaning, and it matters that we use them accurately.
  • Dojohoda
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    Kolzki wrote: »
    Ineresting lack of comment on Caluurion’s here. The magblades must be lurking in stealth.

    **POOF**
    Fan of playing magblade since 2015. (PC NA)
    Might be joking in comments.
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  • OG_Kaveman
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    Aurielle wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Kel wrote: »

    As I said, it was an example.
    You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.

    What's so hard to understand indeed...😖

    We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".

    what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.

    You guys keep using that word...

    img]

    Look. I know it means second to last. I was just using the same language as the person I have quoted there. You can see I literally just copy/pasted from that post. You really are not saying anything important to the discussion.

    What you both stated was inaccurate/meaningless, though. There is no “penultimate” way to apply major or minor maim. Application of major or minor maim is not a sequential thing. Words have meaning, and it matters that we use them accurately.

    Again, look, I was NOT the person that used that word first. It was the person I was quoting. It doesn't matter what exactly is the meaning of the word, in common usage the way we are using it is fine. This is not an English class, it is a gaming forum, son. I suppose you jump down peoples throat that use "decimate" in a way that that implies total destruction and not just 10% destruction. How pedantic. Also, again, you are not adding anything of value to the conversation.
    Edited by OG_Kaveman on September 15, 2019 3:58PM
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Kel wrote: »
    Varana wrote: »
    Sure, it's a set for very specific uses: To mitigate a few very hard-hitting attacks. If you wanted to apply Minor Maim, you don't need a five-piece set like Knightmare for that. You just use Heroic Slash. Or Dark Talons. Or Thurvokun. Knightmare is a waste of a five-piece bonus, most of the time.
    Vykosa provides Major Maim, i.e. it stacks with the Minor one. Taunt is a given anyway, and with just a bash, you can mitigate a lot of incoming damage from dragon breath or other special attacks.
    You don't use that set throughout random dungeons.
    BoraxFlux wrote: »
    @Kell:
    If I'm not mistaken, a minor and a major of the same effect are stackable, I do use heroic slash, so for once every 15 seconds, if a taunt and heroic slash are kept up, for 3 seconds I can plan a 45% mitigation. Don't want to pretend I do know a thing about tanking, don't even know if it would work on every boss, but it is an entertaining thought.

    Like Varana said, it would be for hard hitting attacks, It might end up as a swappable for specific bosses, or indeed as a curiosa in the collection.

    EDIT: Varana already mentioned Major and Minor being stackable, proper respect where respect is due.
    Glad to have confirmation!

    Main point is there's better ways to apply maim, as you both agree. My example was just that. An example. If I had a choice between Knightmare or Vykosa, I'd choose Knightmare every time. The point stands...waste of 5 piece or not, I'd still choose the 5 piece.

    Also to the point the set isn't comparable to the difficulty of the dungeon it's placed in wasn't addressed by either of you. Still great effort for a very situational monster set.

    Dude, this is MAJOR MAIM. This situational set is easily the best monster set for your trial in those situations.

    It's ok to not know what your talking about, but stop.
    Edited by EtTuBrutus on September 15, 2019 4:08PM
  • Aurielle
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    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Aurielle wrote: »
    OG_Kaveman wrote: »
    Kel wrote: »

    As I said, it was an example.
    You want to take it like I said it's the penultimate way to apply maim, that's on you and your lack of understanding what example means. Not to mention Knightmare applies to multiple targets, and not just single target with a long cooldown.

    What's so hard to understand indeed...😖

    We can argue semantics all day, still the worst monster set in game. I wouldn't call something with highly situational use at best "good".

    what are you on about? they apply different effects. i am NOT saying "penultimate way to apply maim, it IS the "penultimate way to apply MAJOR maim" do you see the difference? you get MINOR maim from heroic slash most of the time. the set is the ONLY way to get MAJOR maim from an armor set. knightmare is a also MINOR maim. they are DIFFERENT. you can stack both of them if you want. so what you're saying makes NO sense, at all.

    You guys keep using that word...

    img]

    Look. I know it means second to last. I was just using the same language as the person I have quoted there. You can see I literally just copy/pasted from that post. You really are not saying anything important to the discussion.

    What you both stated was inaccurate/meaningless, though. There is no “penultimate” way to apply major or minor maim. Application of major or minor maim is not a sequential thing. Words have meaning, and it matters that we use them accurately.

    Again, look, I was NOT the person that used that word first. It was the person I was quoting. It doesn't matter what exactly is the meaning of the word, in common usage the way we are using it is fine. This is not an English class, it is a gaming forum, son. I suppose you jump down peoples throat that use "decimate" in a way that that implies total destruction and not just 10% destruction. How pedantic. Also, again, you are not adding anything of value to the conversation.

    You also aren’t adding anything to the conversation, though, because what you said literally makes zero sense. There is no “penultimate” way to apply major maim. If you knew that the person you quoted used “penultimate” incorrectly, why did you use it incorrectly yourself? Also, if I’m a pedant for pointing out that you used a word incorrectly while you were getting uppity with another person for failing to correctly distinguish between MAJOR and MINOR maim, what does that make you? :)
  • goldenarcher1
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    Not sure about Major Maim or General Fracture,but Knightmare was ok.

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  • Cadbury
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    Not sure about Major Maim or General Fracture,but Knightmare was ok.

    jRZJlzV.gif

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OISR3al5Bnk
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • D0PAMINE
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    One of my guildies runs Vykosa for vSS.
  • Heatnix90
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    Kel wrote: »
    BoraxFlux wrote: »
    Would be interested in Vykosa's helmet, I've PvE tanked a little in the past,
    Picked up the shoulders once with an Undaunted key. Recently started up the tank again,
    Curious how the 30% dmg reduction would work out.

    On holiday, so no chance to buy anything from my AP. Better luck next time. :)
    Vykosa:
    You have to taunt, then bash, all for 3 seconds of maim that you can apply every 15 seconds. (Single target)

    A much better set to use for maim....
    https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Knightmare+Set
    (All enemies in a 8 meter radius)

    It's probably the worst monster set in the game. It's embarrassing how worthless it is compared to the difficulty of the dungeon it's acquired in.

    Only useful to add to your collection currently.

    Do us all a favor and think before you post.

    As mentioned already, Vykosa has niche uses, particularly when progressing difficult content (AS HM, SS HM, etc). And if that's what makes it the worst set in the game in your book, clearly you haven't seen the likes of Malubeth/Tremorscale/Molag Kena. Also lol @ even thinking that Knightmare is worth giving up a 5pc for when there's already Low Slash/Choking Talons.
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