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Necro Detonating Siphon
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OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Read bits of this thread.
OP bascially saying do this and ignoring any feedback on it.
I ignore only the feedback of one person who tried to teach me life.
P. S. For Detonating Siphon need perma minor defile without time only for those who are standing in a puddle or in the channel. Evade or move will help to get out of debuff. Then this spell will start working, without fanaticism.
You ignore the feedback of everyone who is against Your idea. There is like 4 or 5 people already who were oposite to Your idea and You try to ignore or evade all of them. I am not trying to teach You life. It's far too late for that since You dont know how basics of logical thinking or even conversation works. I am just providing reasoning for why Your idea is bad and since You lack any counter-arguments for that You choose to ignore it.
You repeat also the same vision of how You would like for siphon to work despite the fact I already said it would be broken and I also said why. It would be still to easy to keep enemy inside the "channel" when You would need to , giving You 50%+ healing reduction on him while You perform burst combo and soon after which is total overkill. This is how heavily You lack any arguments. You cant even create new one when somebody is undermining previous one and You cant create any counter-arguments for that. You act so silly it's fun to read. Also it's funny that You claim You ignore me yet up to this point You never failed to respond on each of my posts
Psychoanalyst on the game forum 2019. You're funny. Stop playing games and you will try to poke your fingers in the sky.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I use the ability and like it.
The damage is alright (esp I'm BGs when people clump) it has a Massive range.
It's also good on defense, as an Archer people like to close the gap, starting a puddle gives them pause.
And as it is disease dmg it does already carry a chance to proc minor defile
The coolest part of the ability is that it ticks like every .5 secs0 -
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✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Need perma minor defile without time only for those who are standing in a puddle or in the channel. Evade or move will help to get out of debuff. Then this spell will start working, without fanaticism.
why?
What about if Warden's sleet storm also could apply major maim, or sorc's Overload applied major vulnerability? Wouldn't that be overkill?
You must be carfeul on what you desire. Applying minor defile on a skill that's already disease damage seems overkill, and at the same time kinda stupid. That's why Incap does not have major defile anymore.Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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Waffennacht wrote: »I use the ability and like it.
The damage is alright (esp I'm BGs when people clump) it has a Massive range.
It's also good on defense, as an Archer people like to close the gap, starting a puddle gives them pause.
And as it is disease dmg it does already carry a chance to proc minor defile
The coolest part of the ability is that it ticks like every .5 secs
I use that spell, too. Sometimes beautifully stacked in narrow passages.OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Need perma minor defile without time only for those who are standing in a puddle or in the channel. Evade or move will help to get out of debuff. Then this spell will start working, without fanaticism.
why?
What about if Warden's sleet storm also could apply major maim, or sorc's Overload applied major vulnerability? Wouldn't that be overkill?
You must be carfeul on what you desire. Applying minor defile on a skill that's already disease damage seems overkill, and at the same time kinda stupid. That's why Incap does not have major defile anymore.
Yes I understand for the same reasons removed Major Defile from Reverberating Bash. My wish is based on the feeling that this spell is missing something. Me seems much stupidity this when CC skills is used for spam - Dizzying Swing.Edited by OrderoftheDarkness on September 13, 2019 10:42AM0 -
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itsfatbass✭✭✭✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.
I'm not suggesting Major Defile. You say so yourself
You must not know your own class. Blast Bones literally already applies Major Defile. Being able to stack both Major and Minor Defile would be hilariously overtuned.
Blast Bones it not spammable ability don't be silly.
By your reasoning everything is here OP. Someone has Major Mending, Minor Mending, Minor Vitality, Major Vitality someone does not.
Major Defile uptime is basically 100% with blastbones, regardless of whether its spammable or not... it can be cast every 3rd skill and the duration of Major Defile is 4 seconds. It's not rocket science nor is the math difficult.
Also, Siphon is already free to cast and is NOT on the GCD. The ability doesn't need TOUCHED.Edited by itsfatbass on February 1, 2020 9:02PM~PC/NA~ Magblade, Tankanist, Healplar, Stamcro, Oakensorc, Healden, Tanknight ~PLUR~0 -
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✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »How often do you see people using Detonating Siphon. Probably not. This will give a great opportunity and potential for ability.
People are talking about OP when the ability is not used at all.
I'm experimenting with the Siphon, it definitely has no business being 42 point skill, it's very stationary.0 -
itsfatbass wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.
I'm not suggesting Major Defile. You say so yourself
You must not know your own class. Blast Bones literally already applies Major Defile. Being able to stack both Major and Minor Defile would be hilariously overtuned.
Blast Bones it not spammable ability don't be silly.
By your reasoning everything is here OP. Someone has Major Mending, Minor Mending, Minor Vitality, Major Vitality someone does not.
Major Defile uptime is basically 100% with blastbones, regardless of whether its spammable or not... it can be cast every 3rd skill and the duration of Major Defile is 4 seconds. It's not rocket science nor is the math difficult.
Also, Siphon is already free to cast and is NOT on the GCD. The ability doesn't need TOUCHED.
Yes, this was the first topic on the forum.0 -
itsfatbass✭✭✭✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »itsfatbass wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.
I'm not suggesting Major Defile. You say so yourself
You must not know your own class. Blast Bones literally already applies Major Defile. Being able to stack both Major and Minor Defile would be hilariously overtuned.
Blast Bones it not spammable ability don't be silly.
By your reasoning everything is here OP. Someone has Major Mending, Minor Mending, Minor Vitality, Major Vitality someone does not.
Major Defile uptime is basically 100% with blastbones, regardless of whether its spammable or not... it can be cast every 3rd skill and the duration of Major Defile is 4 seconds. It's not rocket science nor is the math difficult.
Also, Siphon is already free to cast and is NOT on the GCD. The ability doesn't need TOUCHED.
Yes, this was the first topic on the forum.
Yes it was and I see your many replies essentially denying it and refusing to understand that your suggestion is just not a feasible one. If you need further clarification, reread my comment. Thanks.~PC/NA~ Magblade, Tankanist, Healplar, Stamcro, Oakensorc, Healden, Tanknight ~PLUR~0 -
itsfatbass wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »itsfatbass wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.Sorry but no. Stamina necro already have major defile in it's kit through stamina morph of blastbones. Adding minor would be complete overkill. Also I completly dont see how is it thematically important to add that debuff to siphon. Fact that it's disease dmg doesnt mean it should instantly give defile by deafault since disease dmg already have a chance to apply disease status effect which is major defile.
I'm not suggesting Major Defile. You say so yourself
You must not know your own class. Blast Bones literally already applies Major Defile. Being able to stack both Major and Minor Defile would be hilariously overtuned.
Blast Bones it not spammable ability don't be silly.
By your reasoning everything is here OP. Someone has Major Mending, Minor Mending, Minor Vitality, Major Vitality someone does not.
Major Defile uptime is basically 100% with blastbones, regardless of whether its spammable or not... it can be cast every 3rd skill and the duration of Major Defile is 4 seconds. It's not rocket science nor is the math difficult.
Also, Siphon is already free to cast and is NOT on the GCD. The ability doesn't need TOUCHED.
Yes, this was the first topic on the forum.
Yes it was and I see your many replies essentially denying it and refusing to understand that your suggestion is just not a feasible one. If you need further clarification, reread my comment. Thanks.
Thank you for setting yourself the task of studying and evaluating all my replicas. I'm sorry, but I can't reciprocate.Edited by OrderoftheDarkness on February 2, 2020 6:03PM0