Anyone else finding that they run out of Murkmire and summerset style materials?

Recent

I've been crafting building items and I found that I'm running out of murkmire and summerset style materials. I don't want to go back and do all those dailies just to accumilate more materials as I have moved on to Elsweyr now.

I know I could buy them from a guild store but I don't feel I should have to do that.

I'm hoping that zos can reward us these materials in our writ rewards. I like to go back to murkmire and summerset to quest on my alts but I still don't want to do all the dailies as I already collected my motifs for those areas and it would feel like a grind. I tend to move on to newer zones and grind the new dailies.

How do you all feel about this?
Thanks in advance for your replies.

Hetaira

There are already ways to get these items. You just don't happen to want to use any of them. What you are asking is that the devs adjust the game to cater to you. Yes, there is a rarity of these particular items compared to other materials. That is a purposeful rarity to craft some items without putting them completely unavailable for those that want them.

You've picked two specific style mats that you would like them to add just for your preferences. There are several other that are harder to get also like the dwarven and bonemold for housing items.

I know I could buy them from a guild store but I don't feel I should have to do that.

Why exactly do you feel you shouldn't have to do that btw?

Guess what? You can already get them from writs. Do your writs like you already do, and then buy the materials from other players.

tsaescishoeshiner

Say in zone, I'm looking to buy [Style Material], pm me how many you wanna sell

(If you mention any gold amount in zone chat someone will post TTC/MM listings at you, which are overpriced for style materials)

When they message, offer whatever total you want to pay, I usually get 50%-90% of what traders offer. Lotta people have this stuff sitting around but can't be bothered to list it. Bonus is you can do it while searching traders

Edit: spalling

redlink1979

Daily quests or traders. There's your choices.

Recent

Hetaira wrote: »

There are already ways to get these items. You just don't happen to want to use any of them. What you are asking is that the devs adjust the game to cater to you. Yes, there is a rarity of these particular items compared to other materials. That is a purposeful rarity to craft some items without putting them completely unavailable for those that want them.

You've picked two specific style mats that you would like them to add just for your preferences. There are several other that are harder to get also like the dwarven and bonemold for housing items.

I know I could buy them from a guild store but I don't feel I should have to do that.

Why exactly do you feel you shouldn't have to do that btw?

Guess what? You can already get them from writs. Do your writs like you already do, and then buy the materials from other players.

I don't understand your attitude towards me, I sense you are being harsh. I named murkmire and summerset because I had materials from those areas and now that ive moved on from those zones and im crafting lots of building items to build in my sugar meadow, i found i was running out. Eventually as we get more and more zones these mats will become even rarer but the recipes we craft still ask for those mats. Hackwing ...is just one of the examples. Im not being all entitled but i did grind those areas more than i care to mention. Im not sure what gives you the right to comment with such a self righteous tone but i dont appreciate it.

Recent

redlink1979 wrote: »

Daily quests or traders. There's your choices.

You obviously didn't read my comments.

Recent

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Say in zone, I'm looking to buy [Style Mayerial], pm me how many you wanna sell

(If you mention any gold amount in zone chat someone will post TTC/MM listings at you, which are overpriced for style materials)

When they message, offer whatever total you want to pay, I usually get 50%-90% of what traders offer. Lotta people have this stuff sitting around but can't be bothered to list it. Bonus is you can do it while searching traders

I gave you an awesome for not being as abnoxious as the other people that replied. Thank you for taking the time but my point was that as we move on to new zones, eventually all those materials will become even rarer as players will skip zones or not do as many dailies since there wont be much of a population in those older zones.

Tigerseye

I'm just doing a few Summerset dailies, here and there.

I do a delve, occasionally and a boss, if I like/don't mind the particular fight and can solo it fairly easily, or if someone shouts in zone for a group.

I don't do them religiously, or on several characters, as that would be a grind, I agree.

Tigerseye

Recent wrote: »

my point was that as we move on to new zones, eventually all those materials will become even rarer as players will skip zones or not do as many dailies since there wont be much of a population in those older zones.

Well, yes, that can and does happen.

At that point you have to try to make a group and/or hope you can solo the bosses.

I agree that at the point that almost no one is doing the bosses in a zone, anymore, it would be wise for ZoS to then introduce some new way to get the mats.

Harrdarrzarr

People might be harsh towards this idea because it is ridiculous. You want the rewards without putting in the grind/effort. To go even further, you don't even want to check guildstores for it. If you move on to a next zone, you won't get any stuff from the zone you left.
What you say is this: I don't want to do content again that I already have done, but I still want to keep getting its rewards, so ZOS should just give that to me.
Do you also want Elsweyr dailies to drop Murkmire gear?

Hetaira

Recent wrote: »

I don't understand your attitude towards me, I sense you are being harsh. I named murkmire and summerset because I had materials from those areas and now that ive moved on from those zones and im crafting lots of building items to build in my sugar meadow, i found i was running out. Eventually as we get more and more zones these mats will become ever rarer but the recipes we craft still ask for those mats. Hackwing ...is just one of the examples. Im not being all entitles but i did grind those areas more than i care to mention. Im not sure what gives you the right to comment with such a self righteous tone but i dont appre iate it.

My apologies if it has upset you that I didn't agree with your OP after you asked what others thought. All I did was literally answer what you asked from my perspective. I gave you examples of ways to obtain the material you desire, but you do not want to do those things and are asking the game to be changed to specifically cater to the particular thing YOU want to do to get what YOU specifically want.

tsaescishoeshiner

Recent wrote: »

I gave you an awesome for not being as abnoxious as the other people that replied. Thank you for taking the time but my point was that as we move on to new zones, eventually all those materials will become even rarer as players will skip zones or not do as many dailies since there wont be much of a population in those older zones.

I think it's a good way to keep interest in old dailies - I've done Clockwork, Summerset, and Elsweyr dailies just for style materials when I wouldn't have otherwise, every time helping other (newer) players who were waiting for a group. If they were easier to get, it would make old dailies less worth doing

Maybe they should make the amount of style materials dropped increase with your motif pages of that style learned - like with mercenary (more laurels drop if you know more pages)

I handle it by parking my characters to do writs in whatever zone drops the mats I want, and joining a group if I happen to see one start up. Pretty fun

Sturmfaenger

I've been crafting building items and I found that I'm running out of murkmire and summerset style materials.

When I do that, and don't feel like grinding dailies, I visit guild shops.

I know I could buy them from a guild store but I don't feel I should have to do that.

There are other players that a) do need gold for their purposes and b) do the grinding for it. To pay them is to reward them for doing something I perhaps am to lazy or busy at that point in time to do for my own. I help them out with gold, they help me out with mats. Fair deal.

I'm hoping that zos can reward us these materials in our writ rewards.

When everything you ever wanted is served to you onto a silver plate, you tire of it very fast. That counts for seldom motifs, maelstrom arena weapons, blueprints, or style mats. I do crafting dailies with several chars a day, and I do housing so I know how it feels to run out of mats - but its okay that ZOS does not reward me with whatever I want as a payment for doing crafting dailies.

How do you all feel about this?

I'm absolutely okay with the current system.

redlink1979

Recent wrote: »

redlink1979 wrote: »

Daily quests or traders. There's your choices.

You obviously didn't read my comments.

Wrong assumption.

And again, the system is fine as it is.

Recent

Tigerseye wrote: »

I'm just doing a few Summerset dailies, here and there.

I do a delve, occasionally and a boss, if I like/don't mind the particular fight and can solo it fairly easily, or if someone shouts in zone for a group.

I don't do them religiously, or on several characters, as that would be a grind, I agree.

Yes that sounds more manageable. Thank you for a practical solution.

Recent

Sturmfaenger wrote: »

I've been crafting building items and I found that I'm running out of murkmire and summerset style materials.

When I do that, and don't feel like grinding dailies, I visit guild shops.

I know I could buy them from a guild store but I don't feel I should have to do that.

There are other players that a) do need gold for their purposes and b) do the grinding for it. To pay them is to reward them for doing something I perhaps am to lazy or busy at that point in time to do for my own. I help them out with gold, they help me out with mats. Fair deal.

I'm hoping that zos can reward us these materials in our writ rewards.

When everything you ever wanted is served to you onto a silver plate, you tire of it very fast. That counts for seldom motifs, maelstrom arena weapons, blueprints, or style mats. I do crafting dailies with several chars a day, and I do housing so I know how it feels to run out of mats - but its okay that ZOS does not reward me with whatever I want as a payment for doing crafting dailies.

How do you all feel about this?

I'm absolutely okay with the current system.

Ok it seems that most think i want to be rewarded for whatever i want and that is seriously not the case at all. I grind a lot trust me im not lazy. It wasnt a matter of being handed everything on a silver platter but whatever that's just your opinion.
I dont understand why people assume i am being entitled its not like i ever ask for anything.

beadabow

Decon the armor and weapons from these locations, there is a decent chance of getting the style mats from them. Same for most DLC zone sets. If you don't feel like running through the zones farming gear, many guild traders sell the gear for prices lower than the trait item. I think Cloudrest drops gear that when deconstructed yields Welkynar style mats (Go to Craglorn, join a CR normal +0 pug group and get some gear). Pretty sure Psijiic Skill reward items can be deconned for Calunda lacquer. Positive that Murkmire sets can be deconstructed into Murkmire trait items.

Recent

beadabow wrote: »

Decon the armor and weapons from these locations, there is a decent chance of getting the style mats from them. Same for most DLC zone sets.

Thank you i didnt know that 😊😊😊Ill do that 😊

playfull_kitten

beadabow wrote: »

Decon the armor and weapons from these locations, there is a decent chance of getting the style mats from them. Same for most DLC zone sets. If you don't feel like running through the zones farming gear, many guild traders sell the gear for prices lower than the trait item. I think Cloudrest drops gear that when deconstructed yields Welkynar style mats (Go to Craglorn, join a CR normal +0 pug group and get some gear). Pretty sure Psijiic Skill reward items can be deconned for Calunda lacquer. Positive that Murkmire sets can be deconstructed into Murkmire trait items.

I don't want to sound bad, but culanda lacquer is the great exeption. You really only get it from the dailies and nothing else. There is no Alinor style gear to decon because it doesn't exist. Psijic style is another mats altogether.

tsaescishoeshiner

Culanda Lacquer: decon Wisdom of Vanus & Gryphon's Ferocity

Hackwing Plumage: decon Bright-Throat's Boast** and Champion of the Hist

With the extraction passives, style material drop rate is something like 20-40%? So it's a nice way to double up.

**Certain Bright-Throat pieces (staves, divines, impen) might sell for more than deconning is worth

markulrich1966

it has become more difficult to keep up with mats, as the difficulty level is high as before, but most players moved to Elsweyr.

You can solo Keelsplitter or queen of the reef with a cp810 DD (using a toon with good aoe to kill the ads for queen).

The others require grouping, and this actually does not even work requesting help in zonechat, as summerset is deserted since elsweyr (xbox EU). So summerset has become partially unplayable unfortunately.

So I do my daily delves with 9 toons, and Elsweyr then at weekends (bosses and delves + sand from deconstructing the gear of the delve bosses).

I never farmed murkmire, tried it one day, but got not one hackwing plumage from deconstructing the gear I collected, so gave up on that one and just buy a few on very rare occasions in guildstores (maybe 5-10 a month).

markulrich1966

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

Culanda Lacquer: decon Wisdom of Vanus & Gryphon's Ferocity

Nope, you get vitrified malondo, not culanda laquor.
Culanda is just available from the daily reward boxes.
I am pretty certain, as I farmed 1000-2000 meanwhile.

Taleof2Cities

playfull_kitten wrote: »

I don't want to sound bad, but culanda lacquer is the great exeption. You really only get it from the dailies and nothing else.

markulrich1966 wrote: »

Culanda is just available from the daily reward boxes. I am pretty certain, as I farmed 1000-2000 meanwhile.

Still VERY surprised that players think the only way to obtain Culanda Lacquer is through the dailies.

Especially a player with “thousands” of completed dailies under their belt.

I remember getting ready for the ‘Great Culanda Lacquer Crisis’ of October 2018 ... only to be disappointed the short supply only lasted for about a week.

At any rate, I’ll let forum-goers figure this one out on their own spare time.

Recent wrote: »

I dont understand why people assume i am being entitled its not like i ever ask for anything.

Sometimes it’s difficult for players to see through their own opaque perspective.

In your case, @Recent, you’re using way more Culanda Lacquer than any average furnishing crafter would. You even said you’re “crafting lots of building items to build in my sugar meadow.”

So, now you want the game changed to suit your niche playstyle ... which consumes Culanda at a rapid pace. Do you see where this is going??

Your predicament isn’t as extreme as other furnishing crafters however. Check out this thread below which will hopefully illustrate my point clearer. Another player making a “superabundant” amount of braided bread.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/457102/mundane-runes

markulrich1966

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

playfull_kitten wrote: »

I don't want to sound bad, but culanda lacquer is the great exeption. You really only get it from the dailies and nothing else.

markulrich1966 wrote: »

Culanda is just available from the daily reward boxes. I am pretty certain, as I farmed 1000-2000 meanwhile.

Still VERY surprised that players think the only way to obtain Culanda Lacquer is through the dailies.

Especially a player with “thousands” of completed dailies under their belt.

I remember getting ready for the ‘Great Culanda Lacquer Crisis’ of October 2018 ... only to be disappointed the short supply only lasted for about a week.

At any rate, I’ll let forum-goers figure this one out on their own spare time.

Recent wrote: »

I dont understand why people assume i am being entitled its not like i ever ask for anything.

Sometimes it’s difficult for players to see through their own opaque perspective.

In your case, @Recent, you’re using way more Culanda Lacquer than any average furnishing crafter would. You even said you’re “crafting lots of building items to build in my sugar meadow.”

So, now you want the game changed to suit your niche playstyle ... which consumes Culanda at a rapid pace. Do you see where this is going??

Your predicament isn’t as extreme as other furnishing crafters however. Check out this thread below which will hopefully illustrate my point clearer. Another player making a “superabundant” amount of braided bread.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/457102/mundane-runes

you refer to 2018, we have 2020 soon.
There have been many changes since, e.g. you formerly needed 2 culanda to craft furniture, now just one. Also the reward from dailies was added lateron. At least looking through older messages describes it like this.

So I just can explain your comments by assuming, that you write obased on your experience in 2018.
In 2019, you just get it from dailies, not from decon, as both sets you mentioned are not Sapiarch style.
The only exception I know is the usual that is not worth mentioning for large scale amounts, crown mimic stones.

Katahdin

I don't see any reason why we shouldnt be able to get them from writ rewards or hirelings for that matter on occasion like other style mats. Not like the odd one every week or so is going to crash the market