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regime211
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I hope the new improvements fix people from having to que up as a tank even when they're not to find a que. I find it hella annoying that I have to do this as a dps because the que won't find me a group when my role is set as a dps
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kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."20 -
regime211✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.Edited by regime211 on September 7, 2019 2:12PM2 -
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Well, if you want to play a normal dungeon then solo it if you are a good dps that shouldn't be a problem.
But if you can't even solo a normal dungeon then get in line and que as the role you are.
A lot of new players need a tank and they are learning the game.
And yes it might be easier for me as a 70k solid dps, with high sustain and insane survivability to just que as a tank an carry. But I won't, I just solo it and not rushing and not forcing 3 others to run after like a tail in normal new players dungeons.
So either que as your role or solo it, if you can't solo, well I guess we know who the bad dps is 😉Edited by Gulnagel on September 7, 2019 3:56PM10 -
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✭The problem isn't so much the use of this in normal dungeon since they are complete faceroll. The problem becomes more apparent when it goes over into vet dlc dungeons, where this really has no place.0 -
Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Agreed. This One thinks OP should worry about themselves instead of worrying about potentially bad teammates they COULD get.Leader Of The Children Of Razum Dar Guild (Khajiit Guild) on All 6 MegaServers
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regime211✭✭✭✭✭
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Well, if you want to play a normal dungeon then solo it if you are a good dps that shouldn't be a problem.
But if you can't even solo a normal dungeon then get in line and que as the role you are.
A lot of new players need a tank and they are learning the game.
And yes it might be easier for me as a 70k solid dps, with high sustain and insane survivability to just que as a tank an carry. But I won't, I just solo it and not rushing and not forcing 3 others to run after like a tail in normal new players dungeons.
So either que as your role or solo it, if you can't solo, well I guess we know who the bad dps is 😉
Sorry but this isn't a valid response.0 -
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Well, if you want to play a normal dungeon then solo it if you are a good dps that shouldn't be a problem.
But if you can't even solo a normal dungeon then get in line and que as the role you are.
A lot of new players need a tank and they are learning the game.
And yes it might be easier for me as a 70k solid dps, with high sustain and insane survivability to just que as a tank an carry. But I won't, I just solo it and not rushing and not forcing 3 others to run after like a tail in normal new players dungeons.
So either que as your role or solo it, if you can't solo, well I guess we know who the bad dps is 😉
Sorry but this isn't a valid response.
I didn't know you were the only one that could validate responses. I found it a perfectly valid response.
You're not likely to get much support in a thread where you admit to queuing as a fake tank and don't even understand fully the reasons why it takes dps so long to queue up.11 -
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✭✭✭✭✭People queuing as tanks without taunts and enough hp/resistances should only be paired with healers with no healing skills and dds who only light attack. If you don't like the long queues, go make a tank/healer. Don't force your preconception of what the group should look like on the 3 strangers who are stuck with you just as much as you with them, and who may or may not be experienced players, and who may or may not enjoy rushing through dungeons, because that's basically how a random group finder works.8 -
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✭✭✭✭✭People queuing as tanks without taunts and enough hp/resistances should only be paired with healers with no healing skills and dds who only light attack. If you don't like the long queues, go make a tank/healer. Don't force your preconception of what the group should look like on the 3 strangers who are stuck with you just as much as you with them, and who may or may not be experienced players, and who may or may not enjoy rushing through dungeons, because that's basically how a random group finder works.
lol that would be pretty great.
If only there was a way to program that.3 -
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✭You really never know what you're getting in a pug group through group finder.
One time I was taking my cp160 tank through some daily randoms and got put in a group with level 13s/14s. It was a basic dungeon, Darkshade Caverns iirc. Their dps was... terrible. Took forever to kill mobs and especially bosses. Being the only max level character and not specced or equipped for dps, it was a miserable experience. Darkshade is a quick face roll that didn't need a tank but I was wanting to brush up on tanking and got a bad dice roll.
Then I pugged normal Scalecaller. I've pugged it before and had a decent group. But there was one time I queued as dps and got a group where the healer, a nightblade, didnt even have a restoration staff and the only ability she seemed to use was freaking mend wounds. Getting past the ogres was maddening. I had gotten disconnected at one point and should have just stayed logged off but I'm not that kind of person, so I logged back in and continued the slog. Eventually completed the dungeon. Tried gently telling the healer she needed a resto staff and other skills but she either ignored me or didn't pay attention.
Anyways, group finder is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."8 -
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Problem with that is its not all CP160+ players doing normal dungeons, you end up with a low level group or people starting the game and doing the dungeons for the first time, far more often, they are the ones that really need a tank.
If your at least a sturdier DPS with taunt, then you can get away with it, you queue as a tank without a taunt and survivability, you deserve to get kicked.4 -
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Problem with that is its not all CP160+ players doing normal dungeons, you end up with a low level group or people starting the game and doing the dungeons for the first time, far more often, they are the ones that really need a tank.
If your at least a sturdier DPS with taunt, then you can get away with it, you queue as a tank without a taunt and survivability, you deserve to get kicked.
You can tell who's the experienced players or not CP and level do NOT matter at all. Since playing the game since launch I have seen low levels far superior to higher levels and vice versa.0 -
regime211✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.
Not wrong at all. If you can't run through wayrest with 3 dps and a healer then honestly you have no business being in a dungeon. Hell I have even ran vet dungeons the same way some times it's required. Its called being experienced!0 -
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✭ProfessorKittyhawk wrote: »You really never know what you're getting in a pug group through group finder.
One time I was taking my cp160 tank through some daily randoms and got put in a group with level 13s/14s. It was a basic dungeon, Darkshade Caverns iirc. Their dps was... terrible. Took forever to kill mobs and especially bosses. Being the only max level character and not specced or equipped for dps, it was a miserable experience. Darkshade is a quick face roll that didn't need a tank but I was wanting to brush up on tanking and got a bad dice roll.
Then I pugged normal Scalecaller. I've pugged it before and had a decent group. But there was one time I queued as dps and got a group where the healer, a nightblade, didnt even have a restoration staff and the only ability she seemed to use was freaking mend wounds. Getting past the ogres was maddening. I had gotten disconnected at one point and should have just stayed logged off but I'm not that kind of person, so I logged back in and continued the slog. Eventually completed the dungeon. Tried gently telling the healer she needed a resto staff and other skills but she either ignored me or didn't pay attention.
Anyways, group finder is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.
Thank you! This is exactly my point. If you're experienced enough you don't need a tank!and people using that excuse to solo dungeons by themselves is honestly a lame arguement to use. Not every dungeon can be solo, and some dungeons CAN and HAVE been ran with 3 dps and a healer. Clearly the one's making a complaint don't have enough experience.0 -
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✭People queuing as tanks without taunts and enough hp/resistances should only be paired with healers with no healing skills and dds who only light attack. If you don't like the long queues, go make a tank/healer. Don't force your preconception of what the group should look like on the 3 strangers who are stuck with you just as much as you with them, and who may or may not be experienced players, and who may or may not enjoy rushing through dungeons, because that's basically how a random group finder works.
Huh? Lol0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.
Not wrong at all. If you can't run through wayrest with 3 dps and a healer then honestly you have no business being in a dungeon. Hell I have even ran vet dungeons the same way some times it's required. Its called being experienced!
Do you even believe what you write? "If you can't play like a pro, don't play at all"? How do you think people learn? And incidentally, I would so love to see your first time in a group dungeon...
You are using a tool to find random people to help you. If you don't need help, don't inflict yourself on others. Everything you've posted so far makes you look like an insufferable person.11 -
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“l33t” dps punks really are entitled snowflake divas. (especially the ones who think they are “l33t” because they can mash buttons on a dummy who cant fight back just to pad an arbitrary number so they can stroke that e-peen.)
i almost always play tank, sometimes i go healer and just remember: you dps punks need US wayyyyyy more than we need YOU.
so next time, just be nice.
SPOILER-
the game does NOT revolve around dps punks.PS4 NA
all characters are members of the ebonheart pact master race
BLOOD FOR THE PACT
main character:
Rebekah Straight-Fire, breton templar healer: THE FATEBRINGER (dungeons, trials, pvp)
—MERIDIA’S LUSTRANT— 1100+CP; alliance rank 21 (major grade 1); Rebekah is the most devoted and loyal follower of the lady of infinite energies and the highest ascendant of meridia’s purified legion and was forged from meridia’s brilliant radiance of purity.
other meta toons-
Alexa Straight-Fire, breton warden healer: THE ALCHEMIST (dungeons, trials)
Sasha Straight-Fire, nord dragonknight tank: THE UNBREAKABLE (dungeons, trials)
Freyja Straight-Fire, nord warden tank: THE ICEBERG (dungeons, trials)
Ororo Straight-Fire, dark elf magsorc: THE SHOCKWAVE (dungeons, trials)
Michonne Straight-Fire, redguard stamDK: THE EVISCERATOR (dungeons, trials)
just for fun toons-
Rhea Straight-Fire, wood elf warden stam healer: THE RANGER
Shiva Straight-Fire, high elf warden ice mage: THE CRYOMANCER
Morgana Straight-Fire, dark elf necromancer solo play: THE DEATHSINGER
Lucille Straight-Fire, dark elf nightblade solo play: THE VOIDWALKER
Diana Straight-Fire, nord templar tank: THE CLERIC
Falsetto Straight-Fire, orc stamsorc werewolf: THE THUNDERHOWL5 -
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✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.
Not wrong at all. If you can't run through wayrest with 3 dps and a healer then honestly you have no business being in a dungeon. Hell I have even ran vet dungeons the same way some times it's required. Its called being experienced!
Do you even believe what you write? "If you can't play like a pro, don't play at all"? How do you think people learn? And incidentally, I would so love to see your first time in a group dungeon...
You are using a tool to find random people to help you. If you don't need help, don't inflict yourself on others. Everything you've posted so far makes you look like an insufferable person.
Yeah I do as someone who started off as a TANK first before anything else. And had to legit leave many groups because of TRASH dps or heals. I'm speaking on actual facts! Literally everyone I have que as a "Fake Tank" we have ran through dungeons with no issue. Do you wonder why you're dps tested? Because when playing trials or vet dungeons you want to get through it easier. When you have to tank and deal with people who THINK they have good DPS it's annoying!I rather blow through the dungeon as a fake tank and guess what? If the dps die on a normal dungeon they weren't good enough. They should be able to destroy any trash mobs or even a boss with no problem. I fake tanked DOM and we beat the very first boss with no problem. So I'm not talking out of my neck. If we're penalizing fake tanks on the forums. Then fake DPS needs to be called out first if anything!!1 -
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✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.
Not wrong at all. If you can't run through wayrest with 3 dps and a healer then honestly you have no business being in a dungeon. Hell I have even ran vet dungeons the same way some times it's required. Its called being experienced!
Do you even believe what you write? "If you can't play like a pro, don't play at all"? How do you think people learn? And incidentally, I would so love to see your first time in a group dungeon...
You are using a tool to find random people to help you. If you don't need help, don't inflict yourself on others. Everything you've posted so far makes you look like an insufferable person.
I'm using the group activity because it is accessible to me PERIOD! Your response is invalid.0 -
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“l33t” dps punks really are entitled snowflake divas. (especially the ones who think they are “l33t” because they can mash buttons on a dummy who cant fight back just to pad an arbitrary number so they can stroke that e-peen.)
i almost always play tank, sometimes i go healer and just remember: you dps punks need US wayyyyyy more than we need YOU.
so next time, just be nice.
SPOILER-
the game does NOT revolve around dps punks.
Dps punks? Lol I main tank before anything! I have left more normal and vet dungeons because of trash healers and dps.Edited by regime211 on September 8, 2019 2:19PM0 -
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What about new players? They get the ability to queue for dungeons around level 15. They're also using it because it is accessible to them. Yet you're depriving them of a chance to learn just because you couldn't wait long enough in the DPS queue. And then you wonder why so many high CP have low DPS.7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭What OP is complaining about is normal for MMORPGs as DPS are a dime a dozen when it comes to 4 man content but in greater need for the raid content.
Considering in ESO we can tank, heal and DPS all on the same character very easily we can all solve the issue of tanks not wanting to queue up for random groups by having an alt build for our character to tank. It really is that simple. I can tank or heal on every DPS character I have and on some I can do all 3.
Further, when I tank on a DPS character I do so by only changing gear and skills. I do not have to worry about the CP and have tanked many vet dungeons without issue. It really is that easy.
The other solution is to not rely on a computer to organize your play time in game. Form your own group or at least part of it including getting the tank, then queue. It is so easy to do as long as you are in a decent guild, even from zone works well as groups form like this every day.
I hope this helps. I just takes a little effort and it goes swimmingly well.4 -
Ydrisselle✭✭✭✭✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.
Not wrong at all. If you can't run through wayrest with 3 dps and a healer then honestly you have no business being in a dungeon. Hell I have even ran vet dungeons the same way some times it's required. Its called being experienced!
Do you even believe what you write? "If you can't play like a pro, don't play at all"? How do you think people learn? And incidentally, I would so love to see your first time in a group dungeon...
You are using a tool to find random people to help you. If you don't need help, don't inflict yourself on others. Everything you've posted so far makes you look like an insufferable person.
I'm using the group activity because it is accessible to me PERIOD! Your response is invalid.
I avoid dungeons because of people like you.9 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.
Not wrong at all. If you can't run through wayrest with 3 dps and a healer then honestly you have no business being in a dungeon. Hell I have even ran vet dungeons the same way some times it's required. Its called being experienced!
Do you even believe what you write? "If you can't play like a pro, don't play at all"? How do you think people learn? And incidentally, I would so love to see your first time in a group dungeon...
You are using a tool to find random people to help you. If you don't need help, don't inflict yourself on others. Everything you've posted so far makes you look like an insufferable person.
Yeah I do as someone who started off as a TANK first before anything else. And had to legit leave many groups because of TRASH dps or heals. I'm speaking on actual facts! Literally everyone I have que as a "Fake Tank" we have ran through dungeons with no issue. Do you wonder why you're dps tested? Because when playing trials or vet dungeons you want to get through it easier. When you have to tank and deal with people who THINK they have good DPS it's annoying!I rather blow through the dungeon as a fake tank and guess what? If the dps die on a normal dungeon they weren't good enough. They should be able to destroy any trash mobs or even a boss with no problem. I fake tanked DOM and we beat the very first boss with no problem. So I'm not talking out of my neck. If we're penalizing fake tanks on the forums. Then fake DPS needs to be called out first if anything!!
All you are doing is trying to justify your bad behavior. Sure sometimes you get a good group and can blaze content. Sometimes you do not. That is not an excuse to pick a fake role. Players learning the game or working out a new rotation need you to play the role you queued.
You are cutting in front of other DPS by choosing a fake role having a negative impact on your group and the DPS still stuck in queue because of your pure selfishness.
If you don't want to help other players and only want easy runs quit using the group finder. Quit blaming the game and others for your poor actions.and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."8 -
ThePlayer✭✭✭✭There is only one solution, kick the fake tank, put him in your ignore list for at least 6 months, then remove him from the ignore list and maybe after this period, even the more stubborn as this 1 above, will learn something
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✭Just think how annoying it is for the people thinking they are getting a tank and they get you instead. If you are DPS queue as DPS.
Just think how annoying it is to que as a tank just for the DPS to be trash, and when you que as a tank but your ready DPS but have to carry the trash dps. So next time don't que as a trash dps. That can also be said. Judt because you Que as a DPS does not make you a good DPS.
Big difference in not being good but at least trying the role you queued for and fake queuing as a role you have zero intention to do. You know you are wrong and you are trying to deflect your bad behavior away with a lame excuse.
Not wrong at all. If you can't run through wayrest with 3 dps and a healer then honestly you have no business being in a dungeon. Hell I have even ran vet dungeons the same way some times it's required. Its called being experienced!
Do you even believe what you write? "If you can't play like a pro, don't play at all"? How do you think people learn? And incidentally, I would so love to see your first time in a group dungeon...
You are using a tool to find random people to help you. If you don't need help, don't inflict yourself on others. Everything you've posted so far makes you look like an insufferable person.
Yeah I do as someone who started off as a TANK first before anything else. And had to legit leave many groups because of TRASH dps or heals. I'm speaking on actual facts! Literally everyone I have que as a "Fake Tank" we have ran through dungeons with no issue. Do you wonder why you're dps tested? Because when playing trials or vet dungeons you want to get through it easier. When you have to tank and deal with people who THINK they have good DPS it's annoying!I rather blow through the dungeon as a fake tank and guess what? If the dps die on a normal dungeon they weren't good enough. They should be able to destroy any trash mobs or even a boss with no problem. I fake tanked DOM and we beat the very first boss with no problem. So I'm not talking out of my neck. If we're penalizing fake tanks on the forums. Then fake DPS needs to be called out first if anything!!
All you are doing is trying to justify your bad behavior. Sure sometimes you get a good group and can blaze content. Sometimes you do not. That is not an excuse to pick a fake role. Players learning the game or working out a new rotation need you to play the role you queued.
You are cutting in front of other DPS by choosing a fake role having a negative impact on your group and the DPS still stuck in queue because of your pure selfishness.
If you don't want to help other players and only want easy runs quit using the group finder. Quit blaming the game and others for your poor actions.
Not bad behavior if everyone in the group isn't bothered by it at all.0