Crafted Sets

regime211

Some crafted sets require a significant buff. Like ashen grip and a few others!

Ratzkifal

ZOS said that they'll have an item set audit similar to their ability audit after they looked at class identity. That would be Update 25 or so.

regime211

Ratzkifal wrote: »

ZOS said that they'll have an item set audit similar to their ability audit after they looked at class identity. That would be Update 25 or so.

After they fix the crashing lol

ccfeeling

Below set are affected by recent or upcoming changes

Torug's Pact - 1H weapon enahancement cut half , change from soild tank sets to optional heal set

Tava's Favor - Major evasion revamp , the only dodge in the game is roll dodge or specific set effect , no one will use it

Night Mother's Gaze - Razor Caltrops (morph): This ability no longer deals initial hit damage, but instead applies Major Fracture to enemies hit by the DoT, up to 4 seconds at Rank IV.

Nocturnal's Favor - Same as Tava , no one will use it

Julianos is the only one set I still craft for guildies who are not able to pick the meta sets in trial .

regime211

ccfeeling wrote: »

Below set are affected by recent or upcoming changes

Torug's Pact - 1H weapon enahancement cut half , change from soild tank sets to optional heal set

Tava's Favor - Major evasion revamp , the only dodge in the game is roll dodge or specific set effect , no one will use it

Night Mother's Gaze - Razor Caltrops (morph): This ability no longer deals initial hit damage, but instead applies Major Fracture to enemies hit by the DoT, up to 4 seconds at Rank IV.

Nocturnal's Favor - Same as Tava , no one will use it

Julianos is the only one set I still craft for guildies who are not able to pick the meta sets in trial .

Yeah all the constantly used sets.

Mettaricana

ccfeeling wrote: »

Below set are affected by recent or upcoming changes

Torug's Pact - 1H weapon enahancement cut half , change from soild tank sets to optional heal set

Tava's Favor - Major evasion revamp , the only dodge in the game is roll dodge or specific set effect , no one will use it

Night Mother's Gaze - Razor Caltrops (morph): This ability no longer deals initial hit damage, but instead applies Major Fracture to enemies hit by the DoT, up to 4 seconds at Rank IV.

Nocturnal's Favor - Same as Tava , no one will use it

Julianos is the only one set I still craft for guildies who are not able to pick the meta sets in trial .

I thing both huding and julianos need a small buff give like a small max stam or mag buff to the 5th peice and add another like 75 wep and spell dmg

chrightt

Mettaricana wrote: »

ccfeeling wrote: »

Below set are affected by recent or upcoming changes

Torug's Pact - 1H weapon enahancement cut half , change from soild tank sets to optional heal set

Tava's Favor - Major evasion revamp , the only dodge in the game is roll dodge or specific set effect , no one will use it

Night Mother's Gaze - Razor Caltrops (morph): This ability no longer deals initial hit damage, but instead applies Major Fracture to enemies hit by the DoT, up to 4 seconds at Rank IV.

Nocturnal's Favor - Same as Tava , no one will use it

Julianos is the only one set I still craft for guildies who are not able to pick the meta sets in trial .

I thing both huding and julianos need a small buff give like a small max stam or mag buff to the 5th peice and add another like 75 wep and spell dmg

Seems a bit too strong of a buff. 299 weapon damage sounds about right. 299/129= 2.32 stat density while sets like alfiq and its stamina counterpart: 2560/1096 = 2.33. The balance so far seems about right, with conditional sets like Necropotence giving slightly more stats.

abigfishy

I thought part of their game design policy was that crafted sets were going to be viable for endgame. I don't mean BiS but not laughable.

Lets assume there are four basic types of gear needed.
Stam DPS
Mag DPS
Tank
Heals

There should be two sets for each role that are not a joke. What would be the current ones? Here is my best guess.

Stam DPS Hundings and Night Mother
Mag DPS Julianos and Seducer
Tank Fortified Brass and...Torugs? Whitestrake? Hist Bark????
Heals Krags and...Seducer?

PS: What happened to Twice Born?

WrathOfInnos

All Twice Born Star needs is one more universally useful set bonus. If it had the following set bonuses it would be closely balanced with other options:
(2) Max Health
(3) Max Magicka & Stamina
(4) Spell & Weapon Damage
(5) 2nd Mundus Stone

The raw damage would still be 1-2% behind sets like Julianos and Hundings, but with the benefits of versatility, a little more health, and off-resource.

Major_Lag

Ratzkifal wrote: »

ZOS said that they'll have an item set audit similar to their ability audit after they looked at class identity. That would be Update 25 or so.

Translation: all crafted sets will be nerfed into Oblivion. Even those that had been nerfed into Oblivion already.

abigfishy wrote: »

Mag DPS Julianos and Seducer

Been there. Done that. It's.... quite bad, actually.
Maybe not that bad in a relative sense - considering that those are easily-accessible craftable sets - but Seducer is definitely not endgame material.

OTOH, Julianos is a pretty solid craftable DPS set.

I used Julianos+Mother's to equip my magplar for derping around and soloing the easier dungeons, and I'm easily hitting around 16-18k DPS by simply spamming sweeps (and LA weaving of course).

olsborg

regime211 wrote: »

Some crafted sets require a significant buff. Like ashen grip and a few others!

Not just a few others, the majority of them.

MajBludd

I remember when they said crafted sets would always be better then drop sets.
That idea went down the toilet long ago. Hopefully they make some good changes to those sets in the future.

Kel

abigfishy wrote: »

I thought part of their game design policy was that crafted sets were going to be viable for endgame. I don't mean BiS but not laughable.

MajBludd wrote: »

I remember when they said crafted sets would always be better then drop sets.
That idea went down the toilet long ago. Hopefully they make some good changes to those sets in the future.

Gotta remember, that was said with the old combat team.

Not this "new vision" combat team that's bound and determined to flip the game on it's head.

regime211

The direction and vision they had for this game faded a long time ago lol

StrandedMonkey

Someone PLEASE explain to me why you guys are using Coldharbours Favorite in PvP

Bryath

Too many crafted sets are weird magicka/stamina hybrids

Lokey0024

Pelinals would be great if it applied to WD/SD and max stat. JS

idk

Just like some drop sets are pretty good and others we would not begin to consider I would expect similar with crafted sets. It is asking a lot to have Zos constantly chasing it's tail to keep all sets similar in benefit. They have other things their time is better spent on IMHO.

Hazurko_RaShan

ccfeeling wrote: »

Below set are affected by recent or upcoming changes

Torug's Pact - 1H weapon enahancement cut half , change from soild tank sets to optional heal set

Tava's Favor - Major evasion revamp , the only dodge in the game is roll dodge or specific set effect , no one will use it

Night Mother's Gaze - Razor Caltrops (morph): This ability no longer deals initial hit damage, but instead applies Major Fracture to enemies hit by the DoT, up to 4 seconds at Rank IV.

Nocturnal's Favor - Same as Tava , no one will use it

Julianos is the only one set I still craft for guildies who are not able to pick the meta sets in trial .

Seducer is a great set to level up in.

Hazurko_RaShan

Major_Lag wrote: »

Ratzkifal wrote: »

ZOS said that they'll have an item set audit similar to their ability audit after they looked at class identity. That would be Update 25 or so.

Translation: all crafted sets will be nerfed into Oblivion. Even those that had been nerfed into Oblivion already.

abigfishy wrote: »

Mag DPS Julianos and Seducer

Been there. Done that. It's.... quite bad, actually.
Maybe not that bad in a relative sense - considering that those are easily-accessible craftable sets - but Seducer is definitely not endgame material.

OTOH, Julianos is a pretty solid craftable DPS set.

I used Julianos+Mother's to equip my magplar for derping around and soloing the easier dungeons, and I'm easily hitting around 16-18k DPS by simply spamming sweeps (and LA weaving of course).

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-heal-build-pvp/


Shoes Armor of the Seducer Heavy Sturdy Tri-Stat Enchantment
Pants Armor of the Seducer Heavy Sturdy Tri-Stat Enchantment
Hands Armor of the Seducer Heavy Sturdy Tri-Stat Enchantment
Head Bloodspawn Light Sturdy Tri-Stat Enchantment
Shoulder Bloodspawn Medium Sturdy Tri-Stat Enchantment
Necklace Robes of Transmutation Jewelry Triune Magicka Recovery
Ring Robes of Transmutation Jewelry Triune Block Cost Reduction
Ring Robes of Transmutation Jewelry Triune Block Cost Reduction
Weapon 1 S&B Robes of Transmutation 1H-Weap Decisive Magicka Drain Poisons IX
Weapon 1 S&B Robes of Transmutation Shield Sturdy Tri-Stat Enchantment
Weapon 2 Precise Regeneration/ Random Resto Infused Weapon Damage Enchant

Hazurko_RaShan

StrandedMonkey wrote: »

Someone PLEASE explain to me why you guys are using Coldharbours Favorite in PvP

because when you summon honor it either restores you or does a suicide bombing run... kinda funny that.

Hazurko_RaShan

So the thing about crafting sets is they are great to help you and if you know how to mix them with noncraftable sets they can be a great help... for like when you can't get that fire staff or such in the set you want but can only get the armor. They can be a great aide.

Major_Lag

Hazurko_RaShan wrote: »

https://alcasthq.com/eso-magicka-templar-heal-build-pvp/

Thank you for pointing this out. Yes it is a nice sustain set for healers.

Also, it's a decent choice for levelling magicka characters. Julianos+Seducer, and another set for the 2pc bonus, I use Assassin's.

But I stand by my original point that Seducer is not a good/viable endgame set for damage dealers.

Hazurko_RaShan wrote: »

because when you summon honor it either restores you or does a suicide bombing run... kinda funny that.

Not a crafted set, but I find Mad Tinkerer quite hilarious to use when derping around in overland content. All the trash mobs getting launched in the air

Bryath wrote: »

Too many crafted sets are weird magicka/stamina hybrids

This.
Unfortunately, hybrid builds aren't really viable for endgame because of the way weapon/spell dmg and crit are separate.
A few of those "hybrid" sets are good (ie. Shacklebreaker for no-CP PvP ), but most of them are just garbage

Hazurko_RaShan

two crafted sets that i think work well together for pve esp are night mothers sorrow and mechanical acuity. if you're gonna level up a stamina toon, go with that.

macsmooth

WrathOfInnos wrote: »

All Twice Born Star needs is one more universally useful set bonus. If it had the following set bonuses it would be closely balanced with other options:
(2) Max Health
(3) Max Magicka & Stamina
(4) Spell & Weapon Damage
(5) 2nd Mundus Stone

The raw damage would still be 1-2% behind sets like Julianos and Hundings, but with the benefits of versatility, a little more health, and off-resource.

Wouldn’t mind if pelinal aptitude got the same treatment, maybe something like

(2) Max Magicka & Stamina regen
(3) Max Magicka & Stamina
(4) Spell & Weapon Crit
(5) weapon or spell damage the same as the highest damage stat (however it is worded)

These both sets are 9 trait sets after all

aLi3nZ

Set of ancient grace needs major buff. 4% max mag. Terrible should be 10% to be slightly viable
Another similar 3 piece set adds only 3 meters range to bow weapons. Should be 10

Master staff should give 1400 extra max Magica
Will power staves should give 189 Spell damage. Why was this stuff removed in first place. Not really a point using that stuff anymore.

ccfeeling

Ashen Grip
(2 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 833 Weapon Critical
(5 items) When you deal direct melee damage, you have a 10% chance to breathe fire to all enemies in front of you for 1544 Flame Damage. This effect can occur once every 4 seconds.

1544 Flame Damage is too OP , nerf it

mocap

i want Triple Born Star. Pls?