templar jabs doesnt proc anything?

Nemesis7884

So templar jabs doesnt proc bleed effects despite being a melee ability

i also just found out that jabs do not proc the azureblight explosion despite being damage over time - its kinda weird

Is that a bug with jabs or are they just considered completly outside of any of the categories they should be in?

Siohwenoeht

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

So templar jabs doesnt proc bleed effects despite being a melee ability

i also just found out that jabs do not proc the azureblight explosion despite being damage over time - its kinda weird

Is that a bug with jabs or are they just considered completly outside of any of the categories they should be in?

Well I'm not certain about azureblight specifically, but jabs does proc Skoria which has a dot requirement, so might be a bug there.

For whatever reason, jabs has never proc'd bleeds afaik.

barney2525

There were complaints about the Jabs spear being too violent for children to watch, so it has a boxing glove attached when it appears now.

notyuu

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

So templar jabs doesnt proc bleed effects despite being a melee ability

I found that the bleed only procs on weapon skills and light attacks ratehr than class powers, reguardless of whatever class you use.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

i also just found out that jabs do not proc the azureblight explosion despite being damage over time - its kinda weird

to quote the set
"when you deal damage with a damage over time EFFECT"
in other words, bleed, soultrap, poisons ect.
rather than abiltites that just hit over time directly...which is a shame as it'd be a worthwhile set otherwise

also...jabs procs just about every other set out there [including selens for some reason despite not being direct melee damage]

Nemesis7884

Siohwenoeht wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

So templar jabs doesnt proc bleed effects despite being a melee ability

i also just found out that jabs do not proc the azureblight explosion despite being damage over time - its kinda weird

Is that a bug with jabs or are they just considered completly outside of any of the categories they should be in?

Well I'm not certain about azureblight specifically, but jabs does proc Skoria which has a dot requirement, so might be a bug there.

For whatever reason, jabs has never proc'd bleeds afaik.

i am certai n since i just tested it

Ash_In_My_Sujamma

Bleeds from axes proc only from light attacks, heavy attacks and weapon damage abilities. Nothing else.

OG_Kaveman

Ash_In_My_Sujamma wrote: »

Bleeds from axes proc only from light attacks, heavy attacks and weapon damage abilities. Nothing else.

notyuu wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

So templar jabs doesnt proc bleed effects despite being a melee ability

I found that the bleed only procs on weapon skills and light attacks ratehr than class powers, reguardless of whatever class you use.

what you guys are saying here might be the intended ax bleed but the bleed for sure procs from power extraction.



to the op, jabs is a channel, have you tried flurry? does that proc the set?

susmitds

Channels and AoE DoTs, don't work on Azureblight. Jabs is both.

In other news, Flurry, Hurricane and Deadly Cloak dont work either.

Sandman929

Jabs proc Burning Light

labambao

Ash_In_My_Sujamma wrote: »

Bleeds from axes proc only from light attacks, heavy attacks and weapon damage abilities. Nothing else.

Explain bleed procs from nightblade power extraction then

Gargath

Sandman929 wrote: »

Jabs proc Burning Light

Indeed and it's powerful enough, because "This effect can occur once every 0.5 seconds.". I guess they made a mistake, I'm sure they wanted 5s. cd, not 0.5s . This effect works almost like the Templars had a 2-nd monster set.

Delparis

who is using jabs anymore in 2019.
Maybe back in 2016.

ZonasArch

Delparis wrote: »

who is using jabs anymore in 2019.
Maybe back in 2016.

You don't play the game, do you? Why are you so toxic?

D3N7157

ZonasArch wrote: »

Delparis wrote: »

who is using jabs anymore in 2019.
Maybe back in 2016.

You don't play the game, do you? Why are you so toxic?

This dude has no idea what hes talking about he just made a topic in which he states magsorc is the best mag class atm 2 days ago, ignore and move on

LiquidPony

susmitds wrote: »

Channels and AoE DoTs, don't work on Azureblight. Jabs is both.

In other news, Flurry, Hurricane and Deadly Cloak dont work either.

Both Hurricane and Deadly Cloak proc Azureblight, along with pretty much every other AoE DoT I've tested: Caltrops, Boneyard, Splitting Trap, Acid Spray, Mystic Orb, Arrow Barrage, Carve, Detonating Syphon, etc.

Jabs and Rapid Strikes are about the only things that don't.

xylena_lazarow

Confirming that NB Surprise Attack and Power Extraction both proc axe bleeds, DW Flurry procs axe bleeds, while Templar Jabs does not. Tested on the target dummy a few minutes ago.

This game has never had a clear definition for "melee attack." To make things even more baffling, the old version of Ravager (chance for Weapon Damage buff on melee attack) would proc on Jabs but not Flurry.

Chilly-McFreeze

notyuu wrote: »

to quote the set
"when you deal damage with a damage over time EFFECT"
in other words, bleed, soultrap, poisons ect.
rather than abiltites that just hit over time directly...which is a shame as it'd be a worthwhile set otherwise

Indeed. Flurry doesn't proc it either. Guess they needed to draw the line somewhere.

Vapirko

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Confirming that NB Surprise Attack and Power Extraction both proc axe bleeds, DW Flurry procs axe bleeds, while Templar Jabs does not. Tested on the target dummy a few minutes ago.

This game has never had a clear definition for "melee attack." To make things even more baffling, the old version of Ravager (chance for Weapon Damage buff on melee attack) would proc on Jabs but not Flurry.

That always annoyed the *** out of me. And they never would give us a straight answer no matter how many times we asked.

Solariken

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

So templar jabs doesnt proc bleed effects despite being a melee ability

i also just found out that jabs do not proc the azureblight explosion despite being damage over time - its kinda weird

Is that a bug with jabs or are they just considered completly outside of any of the categories they should be in?

It doesn't proc bleeds because it's not a weapon ability.

It doesn't proc azureblight presumably because it's not applied directly to the target. Rapid Strikes doesn't proc azureblight either FYI which makes me assume it's intentional.

OG_Kaveman

Solariken wrote: »

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

So templar jabs doesnt proc bleed effects despite being a melee ability

i also just found out that jabs do not proc the azureblight explosion despite being damage over time - its kinda weird

Is that a bug with jabs or are they just considered completly outside of any of the categories they should be in?

It doesn't proc bleeds because it's not a weapon ability.

It doesn't proc azureblight presumably because it's not applied directly to the target. Rapid Strikes doesn't proc azureblight either FYI which makes me assume it's intentional.

power extraction procs the ax bleed.

Oakmontowls_ESO

I mean since when have the mechanics of this game been consistent?

Hazurko_RaShan

Jabs are light from the aedra so they cauterize the wounds so no bleeding...

OG_Kaveman

did some testing, interesting results. all nightblade stam morphs proc the ax bleed.

here's surprise attack-

DW bleed-

2h bleed-

power extraction-

dw bleed-

2h bleed-

even killers blade-

DW bleed-

2H bleed-

and really surprising, @Chilly-McFreeze flurry procced the bleed too-

Nemesis7884

susmitds wrote: »

Channels and AoE DoTs, don't work on Azureblight. Jabs is both.

In other news, Flurry, Hurricane and Deadly Cloak dont work either.

not correct - arrow barrage works and is aoe as well

Hazurko_RaShan

please see my previous message right above yours

LiquidPony

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

susmitds wrote: »

Channels and AoE DoTs, don't work on Azureblight. Jabs is both.

In other news, Flurry, Hurricane and Deadly Cloak dont work either.

not correct - arrow barrage works and is aoe as well

Right, basically all AoE DoTs proc Azureblight. Just not Jabs. Not sure what kind of tests that guy was doing.

Chilly-McFreeze

@OG_Kaveman Thanks for testing. But I meant Flurry doesn't rpoc Azureblight set. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Delparis

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

did some testing, interesting results. all nightblade stam morphs proc the ax bleed.

here's surprise attack-

DW bleed-

2h bleed-

power extraction-

dw bleed-

2h bleed-

even killers blade-

DW bleed-

2H bleed-

and really surprising, @Chilly-McFreeze flurry procced the bleed too-

NB is OP that's why