Faction Lock Redesign

Hamboot

I believe that current state of faction lock in Cyrodiil is affecting the overall game play experience and fun in pvp.
This is why I think that that the faction lock should be redesigned in this way :

1- No end tier rewards for more than 1 faction per campaign
2- Partial /few days faction lock per campaign

chris211

Hamboot wrote: »

I believe that current state of faction lock in Cyrodiil is affecting the overall game play experience and fun in pvp.
This is why I think that that the faction lock should be redesigned in this way :

1- No end tier rewards for more than 1 faction per campaign
2- Partial /few days faction lock per campaign

just remove it in its entirety

Mr_Walker

There's no doubt it's affecting it. Pop has dropped dramatically.

rumple9

Yup can't even get a group these days pretty dead since locks introduced

therift

Kaal has a queue in prime time seven days a week

Mr_Walker

therift wrote: »

Kaal has a queue in prime time seven days a week

Yes, it does, last weekend my queue was... 2.

TequilaFire

Queues of 80 plus most nights on PS4 NA Kaal and the campaigns are closer in score than ever.
AD potential 120 overall 63848
EP potential 118 overall 61213
DC potential 117 overall 57470
8/23 8:27 PM EST

Mr_Walker

TequilaFire wrote: »

Queues of 80 plus most nights on PS4 NA Kaal and the campaigns are closer in score than ever.
AD potential 120 overall 63848
EP potential 118 overall 61213
DC potential 117 overall 57470
8/23 8:27 PM EST

It used to be like that on XNA.

Royalthought

Said it a thousand times.

Faction Lock is actually Alt Lock.

Making Alts unplayable instead of locking them to one faction is the most flagrantly awful thing about it.

TheBonesXXX

Get rid of factions.

MojaveHeld

Been decent pop still on Bahlokdaan PC NA, faction lock seems to still be working pretty well there.

Taleof2Cities

Royalthought wrote: »

Said it a thousand times.

Faction Lock is actually Alt Lock.

Making Alts unplayable instead of locking them to one faction is the most flagrantly awful thing about it.

You can still play non-faction alts in the 7-day campaign ... which is not subject to lock.

Your argument is invalid.

AhPook_Is_Here

How about just turning cyrodiil into alterac valley and having a new instance start when there are 30 players in in each faction's queue and it lasts 4 hours, or until one side caps the map. Also let people queue as any faction regardless of what there character's faction is so not only will you be free to play with friends but do it with your favorite character. Most liberating solution yet.

Partomax

TheBonesXXX wrote: »

Get rid of factions.

How would that work lmao

lemonizzle

I came out of cyrodiil on all alts, and now wait which campaigns did the core guilds and players decided to move to. On the last days I fork out the AP to change home campaigns (a good 7-800k), log in on the winning side, get 100k on each in a few hours, and reap the winners reward. As things stand now, no other options to 100% secure the champions coffer, and that small boost of 20k gold for each character.
Cyrodiil is bugged and lagged out of it's mind anyway, so I personally don't mind taking a break.

Kel

Royalthought wrote: »

Said it a thousand times.

Faction Lock is actually Alt Lock.

Making Alts unplayable instead of locking them to one faction is the most flagrantly awful thing about it.

Said it a thousand times.

If players weren't going out of thier way to do shady things, faction lock wouldn't be needed.

You want to scroll run?
You want to emp trade?
You want to AP boost?
There's a 7 day campaign.

You can thank the bad apples for your faction lock....

https://youtu.be/eVSlE28hOgI

Rave the Histborn

If I could buy faction changes for some of my rooms I wouldn't care too much. Ut I'd also hate to see more microtransactions in the game.

misfitmanic

Absolutely nothing wrong with faction lock, imo. Performance, on the other hand, has driven me away from Cyrodiil. I have always been loyal to one faction, but I’ve been putting far more time into other games/hobbies lately because crashing and/or dealing with lag simply isn’t worth my time. I imagine if ZOS fixed the multiple issues that all factions would be pop locked again because the game is truly a blast to play when working as advertised.

Hamboot

For people who say there is nothing wrong with faction lock, a lot of people do not have access to the adventurer pack which allow you too create characters from different races into one faction, and so have characters on different factions, they don't care about faction loyalty they just want to play with all their toons, and a 1 month faction lock cause a lot of issues, as the 7 day is underpopulated there is barely any action there due to the poor tier rewards it offers.
And so a redesigned faction lock should be an option to be looked at by the game makers.

chris211

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Royalthought wrote: »

Said it a thousand times.

Faction Lock is actually Alt Lock.

Making Alts unplayable instead of locking them to one faction is the most flagrantly awful thing about it.

You can still play non-faction alts in the 7-day campaign ... which is not subject to lock.

Your argument is invalid.

you do realize that the 7 day is always dead right? what do you want people to do kill npcs and pvdoor? go play bgs which is a meme and not worth playing

Enkil

My suggestion would be to:

1. Unlock all current campaigns
2. Delete the 7-day standard,
3. Introduce new loyalty locked 14-day campaign (with same rewards as 30-day)

My preference would be so that the new faction locked campaign be no-CP so it can welcome new players as well as vets.

Locking the main ones this many years after One Tamriel is not fair to the vast number of players who created alts on all three factions.

Taleof2Cities

Enkil wrote: »

My suggestion would be to:

Locking the main ones this many years after One Tamriel is not fair to the vast number of players who created alts on all three factions.

chris211 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Royalthought wrote: »

Said it a thousand times.

Faction Lock is actually Alt Lock.

Making Alts unplayable instead of locking them to one faction is the most flagrantly awful thing about it.

You can still play non-faction alts in the 7-day campaign ... which is not subject to lock.

Your argument is invalid.

you do realize that the 7 day is always dead right? what do you want people to do kill npcs and pvdoor? go play bgs which is a meme and not worth playing

You choosing not to play the 7-day campaign (which is not faction-locked) isn't anyone else's problem ... especially not ZOS's.

LarsS

We had this discussion many times before. If it were true that most people dont want the faction lock the 7 days campaign would be full while the other campaigns would be empty. If you dont want faction lock stop complaining and go there.

shaielzafine

Faction lock is fine, there's still griefing but definitely no faction swapping in the middle of campaigns to troll people. The reason people aren't as active anymore is very likely to the same lag and server performance problems people keep making threads about. Not to mention the big nerf roulette nonsense that came out where builds got destroyed based on changes to gear sets, class abilities, the way healing works, etc etc all in one big patch.

ArchMikem

I wish Yol had faction lock. The swappers are still annoying. One day we had this guy get Emp with us. The next day i see him on a Yellow fighting us.

kpittsniperb14_ESO

MojaveHeld wrote: »

Been decent pop still on Bahlokdaan PC NA, faction lock seems to still be working pretty well there.

Pops have dropped on Bahl on average 1 bar for each faction. Weeknights used to be 3 bars across with one or sometimes 2 factions locking in primetime, now weekdays are usually 2 bars across. Even weekend primetime doesn't lock anymore....used to be queue times. Population has dropped significantly, whether it's due to faction lock or not I'm not going to guess but to deny that pops aren't down is just silly.

Kidgangster101

Hamboot wrote: »

I believe that current state of faction lock in Cyrodiil is affecting the overall game play experience and fun in pvp.
This is why I think that that the faction lock should be redesigned in this way :

1- No end tier rewards for more than 1 faction per campaign
2- Partial /few days faction lock per campaign

Maybe just maybe it has something to do with the game being almost unplayable causing crazy disconnects/rage quits? Or maybe that people are quoting once they heard how op dots would be taking away actual skill at the game? I would say those are your top reasons it's not faction lock lol.

MojaveHeld

kpittsniperb14_ESO wrote: »

MojaveHeld wrote: »

Been decent pop still on Bahlokdaan PC NA, faction lock seems to still be working pretty well there.

Pops have dropped on Bahl on average 1 bar for each faction. Weeknights used to be 3 bars across with one or sometimes 2 factions locking in primetime, now weekdays are usually 2 bars across. Even weekend primetime doesn't lock anymore....used to be queue times. Population has dropped significantly, whether it's due to faction lock or not I'm not going to guess but to deny that pops aren't down is just silly.

That's simply untrue. Bahlokdaan has not seen a noticeable decrease in player population since faction locks. Honestly, it seems far healthier than it was before faction locks.

idk

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Royalthought wrote: »

Said it a thousand times.

Faction Lock is actually Alt Lock.

Making Alts unplayable instead of locking them to one faction is the most flagrantly awful thing about it.

You can still play non-faction alts in the 7-day campaign ... which is not subject to lock.

Your argument is invalid.

Since the game launched most players gravitate to the busier campaigns. Part of the reason is they are interested in some action. The other campaigns are often lightly populated much more of the time. While I have not specifically checked the one campaign that is not locked I seriously doubt it is the busiest campaign.

Rikumaru

Yup, unable to play with friends now. I'm literally forced to decide who to play with over another. Not only that but half my characters are now unplayable in Cyrodill (no-cp only has one queue alongside the fact people only play 30 day campaigns). Ofc it's a PvP change so no one really cares much about it, but the PvE equivalent would literally be locking everyone out of their chars in different alliances in PvE for 30 days. Could you imagine the uproar that would cause?

One of the worst changes to the game that I've seen for quite some time.

TheBonesXXX

Lotta QQ here with inconsistent thoughts. They put the faction system in the game, this is what you get for Matt Frior wanting to "separate" Pve from PvP.

See how thats bad?

Deal With It. Keep the factions locked or get rid of them. Anything else is half ass'd.

Coulda had an Elder Scrolls that was online, but we got this monstrosity instead.

If I had my way there'd be no bloody factions, trials, battlegrounds or any other of the dumb ***. Itd be sandboxed and free aim like the rest of the franchise.