Horse Training with Cyrodiil Stablemasters

max_only

Basically you can train twice a day, once for gold, once for AP. Or you can continue to train the current way: once a day for gold.

ArchangelIsraphel

This is an excellent idea. It should be a thing, immediately.

xylena_lazarow

Everyone's mount should be scaled to 60 speed and 60 stamina while inside Cyrodiil, and Major Gallop should be added to Battle Spirit as a passive.

Darkmage1337

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Everyone's mount should be scaled to 60 speed and 60 stamina while inside Cyrodiil, and Major Gallop should be added to Battle Spirit as a passive.

If only... This would be great. Haha. We can keep dreaming.

max_only

Maybe I should have made a poll

Taleof2Cities

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Everyone's mount should be scaled to 60 speed and 60 stamina while inside Cyrodiil, and Major Gallop should be added to Battle Spirit as a passive.

Sometimes your ideas are very good, @xylena_lazarow.

Now if you could only choose a better Alliance than EP ...

85flyingbrick_ESO

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Everyone's mount should be scaled to 60 speed and 60 stamina while inside Cyrodiil, and Major Gallop should be added to Battle Spirit as a passive.

Sometimes your ideas are very good, @xylena_lazarow.

Now if you could only choose a better Alliance than EP ...

right?! I do have a lucky 2h Sword xylena made me when i was a nooblet. I actually killed her one time using it; probably the only time.

max_only

I have nothing to spend AP on. Not even Hakeijo can be bought with AP

Major_Lag

max_only wrote: »

I have nothing to spend AP on. Not even Hakeijo can be bought with AP

What. Just buy 100 sieges and siege ALL THE THINGS

Sometimes when I'm bored and Zimmeron keeps handing out the wrong scroll quest, I'd siege his sorry ass down just for fun

But as for the horse training thing - as awesome as that would be, I seriously doubt that it would ever happen... those Clown Riding Lessons won't sell themselves, you know...

Square252

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Everyone's mount should be scaled to 60 speed and 60 stamina while inside Cyrodiil, and Major Gallop should be added to Battle Spirit as a passive.

Sometimes your ideas are very good, @xylena_lazarow.

Now if you could only choose a better Alliance than EP ...

I hereby demand your blood for the pact!

But back to topic:
Would be a dream. I hate Cyro with untrained mounts. But it makes the map bigger. Running walking through the intro quest with a 10/10/0 Mount takes forever. But one can enjoy the landscape as long as there is no enemy fraction around

KappaKid83

This is actually a really cool idea, I give it an awesome!

fred4

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Everyone's mount should be scaled to 60 speed and 60 stamina while inside Cyrodiil, and Major Gallop should be added to Battle Spirit as a passive.

But how will I gank those juicy slow riders ?

Korah_Eaglecry

max_only wrote: »

Basically you can train twice a day, once for gold, once for AP. Or you can continue to train the current way: once a day for gold.

This might artificially drive up participation in Cyrodiil. If they could implement some others incentives to participating in PvP that goes beyond a small time period they could potentially see a real growth there. Of course they would need to fix the current issues experienced in that zone. And hopefully we see that over the next 6 months as they try to address that.

max_only

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Basically you can train twice a day, once for gold, once for AP. Or you can continue to train the current way: once a day for gold.

This might artificially drive up participation in Cyrodiil. If they could implement some others incentives to participating in PvP that goes beyond a small time period they could potentially see a real growth there. Of course they would need to fix the current issues experienced in that zone. And hopefully we see that over the next 6 months as they try to address that.

That’s what I was going for as a side benefit

max_only

If only people would comment so it stayed a relevant topic

CambionDaemon

Honestly they should just remove the 'once a day' training, and allow you to upgrade as much as you want. Or even better just remove upgrades and have every horse 60/60/60 when you start a new toon.

virtus753

CambionDaemon wrote: »

Honestly they should just remove the 'once a day' training, and allow you to upgrade as much as you want. Or even better just remove upgrades and have every horse 60/60/60 when you start a new toon.

That would certainly be nice, but it would remove the incentive to buy upgrades from the crown store and/or crates. At this point I don’t see any chance they’ll give up the revenue.

Kel

virtus753 wrote: »

CambionDaemon wrote: »

Honestly they should just remove the 'once a day' training, and allow you to upgrade as much as you want. Or even better just remove upgrades and have every horse 60/60/60 when you start a new toon.

That would certainly be nice, but it would remove the incentive to buy upgrades from the crown store and/or crates. At this point I don’t see any chance they’ll give up the revenue.

Yep, pretty much this.
Zos looks at it like you'd be taking revenue from them.
Buy cutting down the 60 day (two month) cycle to half (twice a day training) for each horse training stat, or free, even in Cyrodiil, that gives up the likelyhood of you getting frustrated and opening that wallet of yours.

And since everyone's so hellbent about buying skill lines, we can probably look forward to more lackluster, grindy, boring, poorly optimized skill lines in the future (Psijic skill line says "Hello") with the hope you'll just open that wallet to skip them.

So, I agree, training twice a day or just having mounts maxed in Cyrodiil is a wonderful idea...for us as players. But you'd likely see snow in hell before we see Zos ever risk losing a potential cent over a wonderous QoL change for players.

Just being real about it.

O_LYKOS

anything to speed up the process is appreciated

Rake

yes

Beardimus

max_only wrote: »

I have nothing to spend AP on. Not even Hakeijo can be bought with AP

Golden?
Even Akravi seems to sell well again of late, guess its the motif hunters for the title.

max_only

Major_Lag wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

I have nothing to spend AP on. Not even Hakeijo can be bought with AP

What. Just buy 100 sieges and siege ALL THE THINGS

Sometimes when I'm bored and Zimmeron keeps handing out the wrong scroll quest, I'd siege his sorry ass down just for fun

But as for the horse training thing - as awesome as that would be, I seriously doubt that it would ever happen... those Clown Riding Lessons won't sell themselves, you know...

They’d still sell the lessons though. It takes approx 6 months currently, cutting it down to 3 months is still a grind for those impatient enough to buy the lessons from the crown store.

D0PAMINE

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

Everyone's mount should be scaled to 60 speed and 60 stamina while inside Cyrodiil, and Major Gallop should be added to Battle Spirit as a passive.

Sexy idea

max_only

Beardimus wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

I have nothing to spend AP on. Not even Hakeijo can be bought with AP

Golden?
Even Akravi seems to sell well again of late, guess its the motif hunters for the title.

What title? Style master? I got that before I completed Akaviri though.

There’s furniture I want from Cyrodiil but it’s bound on pickup and you have to be a high pvp rank to purchase it. I’m at rank 4 and I need to be rank 14 I think lol

max_only

With the change to mount stamina, adding this would be a nice compromise.

Hapexamendios

One or the other option is fine, not both on the same day.

FierceSam

Having to train your mount is one of the most godawful pieces of tedium in the game. It massively penalises new players/toons and shows total contempt for them. It makes travel in Tamriel excessively painful and is only good for reminding us how much ZOS must loath new players. Taking 6 months to max out your horseys might have been viable in the pre-One Tamriel, pre log-in rewards days. Now it just shows a game design that doesn’t care to adapt.

Mount speed should be accountwide and should start at 60.60.60

Or if you have to go through the pathetic charade that is mount training, it should take no more than 10 days to get to max stats.

Max_only’s idea is a very good way to help reduce the grind, but maybe like the Golden it should be a once a week thing and should give player’s a week’s worth of riding training at a time - I want players to spend as little time in ‘set up’ and as much time in enjoying the game as possible. The only negative element is that it is doesn’t really help the newer players much as they are least likely to have the AP necessary and will find it most difficult to get. What with low skills and slow ponies (if indeed they have a mount at all).

redlink1979

max_only wrote: »

Basically you can train twice a day, once for gold, once for AP.

This would be great! QoL upgrade.

max_only

FierceSam wrote: »

Having to train your mount is one of the most godawful pieces of tedium in the game. It massively penalises new players/toons and shows total contempt for them. It makes travel in Tamriel excessively painful and is only good for reminding us how much ZOS must loath new players. Taking 6 months to max out your horseys might have been viable in the pre-One Tamriel, pre log-in rewards days. Now it just shows a game design that doesn’t care to adapt.

Mount speed should be accountwide and should start at 60.60.60

Or if you have to go through the pathetic charade that is mount training, it should take no more than 10 days to get to max stats.

Max_only’s idea is a very good way to help reduce the grind, but maybe like the Golden it should be a once a week thing and should give player’s a week’s worth of riding training at a time - I want players to spend as little time in ‘set up’ and as much time in enjoying the game as possible. The only negative element is that it is doesn’t really help the newer players much as they are least likely to have the AP necessary and will find it most difficult to get. What with low skills and slow ponies (if indeed they have a mount at all).

I always recommend new players, even those who absolutely detest pvp, do a random daily battleground. You get AP even if you loose, there are good style pages and the exp can bump you up 2 levels sometimes.

Donny_Vito

But if I only PvE then there is a chance I'll get salty because you, as a PvP'er, can get something that I cannot because I refuse to partake in all the gameplay options offered.

max_only

Donny_Vito wrote: »

But if I only PvE then there is a chance I'll get salty because you, as a PvP'er, can get something that I cannot because I refuse to partake in all the gameplay options offered.

Yes but AP is given in login rewards. Also every pver has to do pvp once to unlock rapids.

I’m a giant carebear, take a look at my history lol I’d rather they delete pvp than ruin anymore of this game. I know that is unrealistic so I’m trying to get a reward I actually care about.