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Confused over prologue quests

Avrael
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I have several questions...


Why do we already have the achivement tab for the Prologue-Quest of Dragonhold, with the achivement "Companion of Sai Sahan", when its not accessible yet? I tried to find it on the internet and ingame for an hour before i asked ingame and noone knew about it and i realized it just wasnt accessible yet, and im STILL not 100% sure about that, because there is no information on it being out or not anywhere (only the Prologue-Quest, i know Dragonhold wont be out for a long time!).

Whats even more confusing, the prologue to Dragonhold was on the PTS on July 8 already? ... Why, when its not out yet?
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/484096/pts-update-23-feedback-thread-for-dragonhold-prologue-quest


Secondly, why are there only 3 prologues in the achivements tab (for me at least)? I see Dragonhold, Elsweyr and Murkmire, in that order. What about the prologue to Morrowind? Or to Summerset? Clockwork City? Or to literally anything else? Whats going on here?


Furthermore, i almost had a heart attack reading the achivement for the Prolouge-Quest to Murkmire, 150 daily quests? ONE HUNDRET AND FIFTY DAILY QUESTS? Are you SERIOUS? That has to be a mistake, the achivement for elsweyr is only 30 daily quests, that sounds reasonable! Who designed this and why does that individual still work on Eso?
And not only is that a ridiculous amount of quests for one achivement, but those quests are all ridiculously long as well! I just tried it. You first have to talk to Jee-Lar in Stormhold, then to someone in a random part of Tamriel, then do 1-3 diffrent fetch quests in that area, then return to the npc you had to talk to before, and THEN return to Jee-Lar. Those are easy and boring quests that take 10min to complete each, JUST because of the walking, this is the literal opposite of fun quest design imo.

If i wouldnt know better i would say you love torturing players who really care about the game and farm achivements with tedious ssssssssstuff like this... and honestly, i dont know better, that could be exactly why youre doing things like this. Did ANYONE playtest those achivements? This is the so far only achivement i dont just see as very difficult for normal palyers, but as straight unfair.


And lastly... am i the only one that can do those "daily" quests just infinitly per day? Is that a bug? Do more people expirience this? And if its not a bug and intendet, why are they still called daily quests?




I dont understand, someone please explain.
Edited by Avrael on August 21, 2019 10:17PM
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  • VaranisArano
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    1. They tend to add in achievements ahead of time for stuff.

    2. IDK.

    3. No, 150 quests for Murkmire isnt reasonable. Yes, ZOS did it anyway. IMO, they are terribly designed and boring dailies. I did five of them, said "eff this" and quit running those dailies. Havent regretted it yet.

    4. I'm not entirely sure. You should be able to run through the available dailies, especially for Jee-Lar. I don't remember being able to repeat the same quest more than once per day, but I'm not if that's what you meant.
  • Avrael
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    Ye so far i was able to do 3 dailys from both the Murkmire and Elsweyr prologues, in a single day... or a single hour for that matter. Hmm... that seems fishy if youre not able to do that but i am.
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  • VaranisArano
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    Avrael wrote: »
    Ye so far i was able to do 3 dailys from both the Murkmire and Elsweyr prologues, in a single day... or a single hour for that matter. Hmm... that seems fishy if youre not able to do that but i am.

    Oh, I was able to do multiple of the Murkmire dailies. IIRC, I did the Grahtwood, Rift, and Eastmarch one in an hour.

    What I wasnt sure of is whether they repeat, i.e. you can do 2 of the Rift ones hunting mammoths in a day. I don't think so, but I've never tried.
  • Sirona_Starr
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    Avrael wrote: »
    Ye so far i was able to do 3 dailys from both the Murkmire and Elsweyr prologues, in a single day... or a single hour for that matter. Hmm... that seems fishy if youre not able to do that but i am.

    Murkmire, I believe you can do at least 6 a day. Elsweyr prologue is nine a day.

    Clockwork City, Morrowind and Summerset are prologue quests you pick up in the game - I don't believe they were prologues like Elsweyr.

    Clockwork City is an Order of the Eye dispatch picked up at the Mage's Guild in the main city for your alliance. Rhea, I think, is picked up at an inn in Wayrest for Morrowind, and Summerset - Vaunus Galerion at the same Mage's Guild as for Clockwork above?? Something like that.
    Edited by Sirona_Starr on August 21, 2019 11:29PM
  • Avrael
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    Avrael wrote: »
    Ye so far i was able to do 3 dailys from both the Murkmire and Elsweyr prologues, in a single day... or a single hour for that matter. Hmm... that seems fishy if youre not able to do that but i am.

    Oh, I was able to do multiple of the Murkmire dailies. IIRC, I did the Grahtwood, Rift, and Eastmarch one in an hour.

    What I wasnt sure of is whether they repeat, i.e. you can do 2 of the Rift ones hunting mammoths in a day. I don't think so, but I've never tried.

    Ah ok, thats possible... still doesnt make sense to call them dailys then, its just wrong.

    Ok, so the only Prologue-Quests that are worth an achivement in the tab are the ones you get in the crown shop? ... Absolutley no sign of intelligent life at the Zenimax HQ, but what else is new.
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  • Avrael
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    Ok, ive took some time now to see if theres a limit to the quests you can do per day, for the elsweyr prologue quests it seems that i was able to complete 7-8 diffrent versions of the quest until i could accept no more. I will not test the murkmire prologues, because theyre 5x longer and more convoluted per quest and im not that masochistic, but i assume the same will be true for those quests. So theyre not really daily quests, theyre like "Every version of this quest once daily".

    And even tho i now assume that the murkmire quests are at least like 6 per day, its still like 25 days with 6 VERY annoying, long quests. I personally will not touch them until they got changed, if that doesnt happen, i guess ill just never get all achivements...
    Edited by Avrael on August 29, 2019 12:26PM
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  • Ermiq
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    Yeah, the Murkmire prologue achivement is insane, totally insane. I've managed to do like 70 of these dailies, I wanted to get Hist Sap set pieces from it so it was not just for the achivement. However, I had quit the game for several months then. I've just burned out because of these quests. Unvbelievably boring, time consuming and overwhelming stuff. I'll never get back to that achivement.
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  • Avrael
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    I feel ya. Ive so far finished every single other repeatable daily quest, fighters guild, mages guild, undaunted, thieves guild, dark brotherhood, etc... that all was extremly tedious already, but they were reasonable imo. Its just sad that i have to give up on this one because i dont want to go completley mental after a few weeks. Its sadly not realistic, but i really hope they change it... i also hope some mod sees this maybe.
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  • NeroBad
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    There is a limit (I think it is 40) for dailies as a whole in the game. During the anniversary event I missed daily writs because I got to cocky.

    One thing that achievements get an early appearance in the journal, but my biggest concern is NORG-TZEL! The zone which is on our list, but after a cool quest it is unreachable. I now it is nearly nothing, but it annoys me beyond reason.
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Avrael wrote: »
    I have several questions...


    Why do we already have the achivement tab for the Prologue-Quest of Dragonhold, with the achivement "Companion of Sai Sahan", when its not accessible yet? I tried to find it on the internet and ingame for an hour before i asked ingame and noone knew about it and i realized it just wasnt accessible yet, and im STILL not 100% sure about that, because there is no information on it being out or not anywhere (only the Prologue-Quest, i know Dragonhold wont be out for a long time!).

    Whats even more confusing, the prologue to Dragonhold was on the PTS on July 8 already? ... Why, when its not out yet?
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/484096/pts-update-23-feedback-thread-for-dragonhold-prologue-quest


    Secondly, why.

    Bescause prologue quest are added to the game in previous dlc but are unlocked a month or 2 before the released of the assosiated dlc
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