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Dots are way over tuned
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burglar✭✭✭✭In a few weeks, we'll see a bunch of youtube videos labelled something like: DoTTimus MAximus - 100% DoT mitigation with only 1 set and CP! Please sub!Bosmer Melee Magicka Nightblade1 -
Hashtag_✭✭✭✭✭Sour t to zw5WaltherCarraway wrote: »Entitled stam-whatever-only 1vX small scalers are angry of seeing bunch of inferior, bad, and mostly Magicka pug players making thier AP “farm” harder because of DoT buff.
LMAO just get a 4 man group dude. 4 ppl spam hot and dot still wrecks.
I'm a magden and the following is every death recap currently in cyrodiil. can't outheal the dots even as mag....stamina is likely worse.
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Teeba_Shei✭✭✭✭✭
✭Everyone is just playing nbs because its basically the only class that can deal with this.Edited by Teeba_Shei on August 13, 2019 12:48AM1 -
quadraxis666✭✭✭✭✭
✭JamieAubrey wrote: »rotaugen454 wrote: »Yeah, Yakko and Wakko are quite upset.
Wonder how many people here have never seen Animainiacs
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This heavily favors numbers because even with a purge, they are right back on you. Even worse though, if you don't. NB is probably pretty nice because you can cloak through the DOTs and bomb the big groups.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Synapsis123 wrote: »Everyone is just playing nbs because its basically the only class that can deal with this.
Granted my magblade doesn't have all the skills and passives, but you can't deal with this with cloak unless it's to run away. Assuming you can stay cloaked.0 -
WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭That moment when you release 95% of the players are used to burst Mag and Stam playstyle and never l2p dot playstyle.
Bias - Nerfling eso players as usual. Nothing to see here move along please. 😂2 -
Muskrap✭✭✭Shokasegambit1 wrote: »That moment when you release 95% of the players are used to burst Mag and Stam playstyle and never l2p dot playstyle.
Bias - Nerfling eso players as usual. Nothing to see here move along please. 😂
explain to me how 30k over 10s DoT tooltips are fun and interactive gameplay in a solo environment. ticking for 1.5k without mit put into play if you have 4 players on you thats 6k damage if they all use the same DoT. if they use multiple it goes from there. Acting like that has some sort of counterplay is moronic. It doesnt spawn interesting gameplay its just raising the skill floor
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WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭Shokasegambit1 wrote: »That moment when you release 95% of the players are used to burst Mag and Stam playstyle and never l2p dot playstyle.
Bias - Nerfling eso players as usual. Nothing to see here move along please. 😂
explain to me how 30k over 10s DoT tooltips are fun and interactive gameplay in a solo environment. ticking for 1.5k without mit put into play if you have 4 players on you thats 6k damage if they all use the same DoT. if they use multiple it goes from there. Acting like that has some sort of counterplay is moronic. It doesnt spawn interesting gameplay its just raising the skill floor
30k over 10 sec tooltips ?
Umm first of all if your in PvP it's 15k, then take into account resistances and cp. Your left with doing damage of around 11.5k depending on your crit resistance assuming your at 3300 crit resistances that will negate 50% of crit damage value.
If you have sustain issues that's your build and your playstyle. My old enemies would rolldodge - LOS - vigor-rally or streak shade in and apply shields. Your issue is maybe l2p ... if your dying to a groups dots your not thinking respectively and need to pay attention to multiple things.Edited by WeylandLabs on August 13, 2019 5:22AM1 -
WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭“I can avoid all damage by roll dodging, except DoTs. Nerf DoTs!”
Ya you don't die to one DOT 😂 You die to the pressure of multiple DOTs hitting at once. In order to hit multiple DOTs at once you need to play a full Dot build - that usually consisted of DW-Bow like I play.
How they counter my pressure is by roll dodging vigor rally stam or streak - shade mag away and LOS as what I stated above. If players are dying becuase of 4 people spamming soul trap in back of group or zerg they deserve to die.Edited by WeylandLabs on August 13, 2019 5:20AM1 -
StaticWave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Shokasegambit1 wrote: »That moment when you release 95% of the players are used to burst Mag and Stam playstyle and never l2p dot playstyle.
Bias - Nerfling eso players as usual. Nothing to see here move along please. 😂
You don’t need to l2p dot playstyle... it’s braindead. You don’t even need to time your bursts or anything. Just do the same rotation and apply a bunch of dots until they can’t out heal the damage. There’s nothing skillful or interesting about it lol. Might as well go pve with a dot build1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The dots are fine. What's not fine is the fact that some classes are much better equipped to deal with them than others.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Emma_Overload wrote: »The dots are fine. What's not fine is the fact that some classes are much better equipped to deal with them than others.
Exactly, not every class have access to instant burst heal like sorcs, that also can mess with your LoS;)Edited by Mayrael on August 13, 2019 8:16AM"We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
— They always claim they’re “investigating” the causes, but in reality they’re just waiting until the PC EU players go to bed. Once that happens, you can suddenly log in again and they happily mark the issue as Fixed.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭My solo pve mdk is having a prick of a time trying to figure out what skills to drop to fit some of these new ones0 -
Mayrael✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭“I can avoid all damage by roll dodging, except DoTs. Nerf DoTs!”
Actually you can roll dodge dot ticks (same as you can roll dodge siege dot from fire and coldfire ballistas) it's a "feature" that was introduced (and never fixed) when sieges went out of control. I'm not sure how this works with regular dots as they tick much more often than siege ones, but I always could time my dodge when the tick was about to happen. It can be harder though with the skill ones but yesterday I saw it few times
"We are currently investigating connection issues some players are having on the European megaservers. We will update as new information becomes available."
— They always claim they’re “investigating” the causes, but in reality they’re just waiting until the PC EU players go to bed. Once that happens, you can suddenly log in again and they happily mark the issue as Fixed.0 -
Skwor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭when evaluating the credibility of a forum post, it is important to consider the credentials of the author of said post.
The OP is small-scale pvp'er, slaying many with few. A credential not shared by many who have responded to his post.
I therefore give high credence to his words, even if few in length they may be. The message, while simple, is no less important.
The responses mocking his message however, are nothing more than verbal diarrhea drenched in a stench filled ignorance only simpletons could endure.
there is iron in his words of death for all comanche to see. and so there is iron in his words of life.
let it be life.
Credentials are never a substitute for reason. It is an appeal to authority which is still a logical fallacy regardless of the authority's expertise. The expert is still required to present the reason for thier opinion.
you could say you just don't believe him :P
Becuase that is not what I said nor in anyway implied.
You can stop trying to ascribe intent or motive where none is to be found.0 -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ST Dots should be:
a) more expensive, at least like +20% to cost
b) in case of PVP, only one dot of each type (both morphs count as same type) can be active on particular player
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✭Shokasegambit1 wrote: »“I can avoid all damage by roll dodging, except DoTs. Nerf DoTs!”
Ya you don't die to one DOT 😂 You die to the pressure of multiple DOTs hitting at once. In order to hit multiple DOTs at once you need to play a full Dot build - that usually consisted of DW-Bow like I play.
How they counter my pressure is by roll dodging vigor rally stam or streak - shade mag away and LOS as what I stated above. If players are dying becuase of 4 people spamming soul trap in back of group or zerg they deserve to die.
If you’re 1vXing and you’re getting hit by multiple DoTs, that means you’re not facing a bunch of noobs, which are the staple victims of standard 1vX, and should probably lose anyway. In my opinion, people who successfully 1vX against skilled opponents are usually exploiting an unbalanced aspect of the game, and this is probably an example where people have wised up and learned how to deal with your build.0 -
Sarousse✭✭✭✭✭
✭I did several of 1vX yersterday and noticed no difference, as the single target regens are totally insane.
Even tried with my hybrid necro and I was getting 10k regen tooltip from my healing ghost, it's just healing so hard.
The game feels smoother, faster, with more possibilities. I'm liking it so far, and I'm not even playing a dot template.Edited by Sarousse on August 13, 2019 3:15PM2 -
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20k raw numbers, half of that in PvP, and that's prior to taking resists into account. If you REALLY take 20k damage, in PvP, with heavy armor / proper defense gear, once buffed (because no one cares about unbuffed, you should NEVER be unbuffed anyway), it means that the caster reads somethink like "75k damage over 10 seconds". Which is plain impossible, at least without cheating.
You need it spelled for you ? Ok then... That kind of damage is easy to survive, any PvE-player would eat it for breakfast. Git gud.
Also, no, I don't need it spelled out, it's not for me. The devs need it spelled out. If it's a feedback post, it should include, well, feedback.0 -
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✭✭✭When sload was Over tuned, I cancelled 2 subs. I didn't PvP yesterday but who knows what I will do if dots are killing players like sload did when it was released. I might just throw my computer out the 5th floor balcony.
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OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Whatever happened to counter play? Like seriously? On my stamina players I plan on trying a few things like different defensive sets, shuffle and/or a purge. On magicka… same thing.
Also to the OP Hashtag, that pic you shared.... um that damage is pretty high even for this patch. How much Impen are you wearing? What is your resistances? You a ganker so you don't wear Impen or put CP into it? Are you playing naked? (Okay, last question was a joke but really... )0
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