How do you deal with punctering sweep?

festher

it really does look like a 1 button win. It has damage, AoE, Snare AND selfheal. really?

Cast Time: Instant (1 second channel)
Target: Area
Range: Radius: 8 meters
Cost: 2952 Magicka
Skill description
Launch a relentless assault, striking enemies in front of you four times with your Aedric spear. The spear deals 308 Magic Damage to the closest enemy and 124 Magic Damage to all other enemies. The final strike reduces the Movement Speed of the closest enemy by 70% for 2 seconds. You heal for 40% of the damage done with this ability.
New effect
You heal for a percentage of the damage done.

recap all day

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kypranb14_ESO

This use to frustrate me years ago when I was learning PVP.

Are you utilizing Major Evasion? It will reduce the damage of Puncturing Sweep by 25%. (Not the burning light procs though)

Are you utilizing a cleansing ability or a snare immunity ability like Race Against Time? It will counter the snare component.

Are you utilizing Minor/Major Defile? It will help reduce the Sweeper's self healing.

If after utilizing some combination of these effects you're still struggling, we may need more information about your build to help you.

Sanctum74

Hint: Move out of the way

Mrsinister2

Yea casually walk out of it like 99% of the player base does I'm lucky to land 2 hits half the time unless there cc'd

Vapirko

Well you could always roll a magplar. But, I have a feeling your opinion of that skill would change very quickly.

Xvorg

festher wrote: »

it really does look like a 1 button win. It has damage, AoE, Snare AND selfheal. really?

Cast Time: Instant (1 second channel)
Target: Area
Range: Radius: 8 meters
Cost: 2952 Magicka
Skill description
Launch a relentless assault, striking enemies in front of you four times with your Aedric spear. The spear deals 308 Magic Damage to the closest enemy and 124 Magic Damage to all other enemies. The final strike reduces the Movement Speed of the closest enemy by 70% for 2 seconds. You heal for 40% of the damage done with this ability.
New effect
You heal for a percentage of the damage done.

recap all day

punctering sweep
punctering sweep
punctering sweep
punctering sweep
punctering sweep

1- Block
2- press basic attack
3- profit

NBrookus

Or, roll through templar. Or CC them. Or just kill them while they are jabbing away. The snare doesn't happen unless you eat the full channel, and the damage of the spammable is not that great since it takes a full second to get all the damage, while many other spammables can more reliably be weaved for great damage. I've never killed anyone with just jabs unless they sat there and let me use them like a target dummy.

I suggest you go on pts, outfit a templar template and try to duel and win by just using jabs. I think your opinion of the power of this skill will quickly shift.

No_Division

kypranb14_ESO wrote: »

This use to frustrate me years ago when I was learning PVP.

Are you utilizing Major Evasion? It will reduce the damage of Puncturing Sweep by 25%. (Not the burning light procs though)

Are you utilizing a cleansing ability or a snare immunity ability like Race Against Time? It will counter the snare component.

Are you utilizing Minor/Major Defile? It will help reduce the Sweeper's self healing.

If after utilizing some combination of these effects you're still struggling, we may need more information about your build to help you.

You don't need defile for the heal, your mitigation does that for you lol

Lord_Eomer

festher wrote: »

it really does look like a 1 button win. It has damage, AoE, Snare AND selfheal. really?

Cast Time: Instant (1 second channel)
Target: Area
Range: Radius: 8 meters
Cost: 2952 Magicka
Skill description
Launch a relentless assault, striking enemies in front of you four times with your Aedric spear. The spear deals 308 Magic Damage to the closest enemy and 124 Magic Damage to all other enemies. The final strike reduces the Movement Speed of the closest enemy by 70% for 2 seconds. You heal for 40% of the damage done with this ability.
New effect
You heal for a percentage of the damage done.

recap all day

punctering sweep
punctering sweep
punctering sweep
punctering sweep
punctering sweep

Snare should go

Baconlad

Damage - while the tooltip damage in good it's impossible to hit good targets with this damage in PvP. Two out of four mostly, and four if I get a stunning off before I cast. So damage feels lower than it is. Also major evasion makes the skill limp noodle area.

AOE - in cyrodiil may as well be non existant

Snare - cant count on it..too easy to stay unecombered from the snare. Mainly due to the difficulty of actually hitting that last dweep tick

Self heal - is...ok I get 1k somtimes... ultimately not gonna a save you, just helps return lost health from a bad defense phase

Sweeps hit hard. But they aren't that good

Lord_Eomer

Baconlad wrote: »

Damage - while the tooltip damage in good it's impossible to hit good targets with this damage in PvP. Two out of four mostly, and four if I get a stunning off before I cast. So damage feels lower than it is. Also major evasion makes the skill limp noodle area.

AOE - in cyrodiil may as well be non existant

Snare - cant count on it..too easy to stay unecombered from the snare. Mainly due to the difficulty of actually hitting that last dweep tick

Self heal - is...ok I get 1k somtimes... ultimately not gonna a save you, just helps return lost health from a bad defense phase

Sweeps hit hard. But they aren't that good

Damage can be effective against most players if build properly, snare is OP and shall be replaced with something esle

Rake

this post gave me yellow tick and ataxia

shezof

you clearly never played a templar,jabs is a melee skill that you need to AIM in order to work,and there are far more better skills on each element of jabs; AoE snare or heal.

GeorgeBlack

It used to be bad when u'd get knocked back by it back in the sweet days.
Now it's ok.

ccfeeling

Best solo skill

kypranb14_ESO

No_Division wrote: »

kypranb14_ESO wrote: »

This use to frustrate me years ago when I was learning PVP.

Are you utilizing Major Evasion? It will reduce the damage of Puncturing Sweep by 25%. (Not the burning light procs though)

Are you utilizing a cleansing ability or a snare immunity ability like Race Against Time? It will counter the snare component.

Are you utilizing Minor/Major Defile? It will help reduce the Sweeper's self healing.

If after utilizing some combination of these effects you're still struggling, we may need more information about your build to help you.

You don't need defile for the heal, your mitigation does that for you lol

Why not both? As a Magblade main I get some pretty nice heals from Swallow Soul. I don't have a Breath of Life backup ICE though.

worrallj

Lord_Eomer wrote: »

Baconlad wrote: »

Damage - while the tooltip damage in good it's impossible to hit good targets with this damage in PvP. Two out of four mostly, and four if I get a stunning off before I cast. So damage feels lower than it is. Also major evasion makes the skill limp noodle area.

AOE - in cyrodiil may as well be non existant

Snare - cant count on it..too easy to stay unecombered from the snare. Mainly due to the difficulty of actually hitting that last dweep tick

Self heal - is...ok I get 1k somtimes... ultimately not gonna a save you, just helps return lost health from a bad defense phase

Sweeps hit hard. But they aren't that good

Damage can be effective against most players if build properly, snare is OP and shall be replaced with something esle

It's strong but it does have counters, plus channel spells in general slow down what you can do. As someone who has used it in pvp I can say it by no means guarentees a win, but it is good. I haven't noticed the snare being an important factor though. Mostly just the damage & heal at the same time. But yeah a defile or something will make the healing it gives negligable.