Necromancer Tank CC?

Draconix

Since there is only 2 build types that I have found..it really doesnt tell about crowd control tanks for new players. They mainly cover DPS. So any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

In class, you have 2, bone totem and grave grasp. Out of class, you have 2, soon to be 3, time stop, bombard, and soon turn evil. They all have good and bad things but I use agony totem on my tankcer, it does the job fine.

Vermethys

Agony Totem + Blockade of Frost combo has been working very well for me. Mobs get a heavy snare, Minor Vulnerability, chance for immobilization, chance for Minor Maim, and they get feared in place for 4 seconds. Your allies also get Minor Protection. Grave Grasp is not an attractive choice imo.

Draconix

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

In class, you have 2, bone totem and grave grasp. Out of class, you have 2, soon to be 3, time stop, bombard, and soon turn evil. They all have good and bad things but I use agony totem on my tankcer, it does the job fine.

Vermethys wrote: »

Agony Totem + Blockade of Frost combo has been working very well for me. Mobs get a heavy snare, Minor Vulnerability, chance for immobilization, chance for Minor Maim, and they get feared in place for 4 seconds. Your allies also get Minor Protection. Grave Grasp is not an attractive choice imo.

Can you tell me your front/back bar setup so I can get an idea what to shoot for? Im one handed and shield guy.

Vermethys

Draconix wrote: »

Can you tell me your front/back bar setup so I can get an idea what to shoot for? Im one handed and shield guy.

This is my personal take on Necro tanking: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=151246
I often use Mortal Coil instead of Necrotic Potency though. If you don't use an Ice Staff on the back bar, you'd probably need to slot Ghostly Embrace instead of Blockade of Frost.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

My tank looks like this-

Front bar, s/b

Mortal coil, hungry scythe, necrotic potency, heroic slash, pierce armor, ulti ravenous Goliath

Back bar frost staff

Spirit guardian, beckoning armor, agony totem, silver leash, elemental blockade, ulti warhorn.

I swap out leash for inner fire for specific fights, like Lord warden.

I have seen good builds that use inner fire and unnerving boneyard, I just like having those things on one skill, the debuffs and taunt.

Draconix

Vermethys wrote: »

Agony Totem + Blockade of Frost combo has been working very well for me. Mobs get a heavy snare, Minor Vulnerability, chance for immobilization, chance for Minor Maim, and they get feared in place for 4 seconds. Your allies also get Minor Protection. Grave Grasp is not an attractive choice imo.

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Draconix wrote: »

Can you tell me your front/back bar setup so I can get an idea what to shoot for? Im one handed and shield guy.

This is my personal take on Necro tanking: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=151246
I often use Mortal Coil instead of Necrotic Potency though. If you don't use an Ice Staff on the back bar, you'd probably need to slot Ghostly Embrace instead of Blockade of Frost.

I have ice staff on backbar and wall of ice however its low so slowly leveling it up. Necrotic Potency seems useful for solo imo more than groups.

Joxer61

thoughts on NB tank vs Necro? Both have strength's so kinda on the fence on this one.....

es4eva

I've been using 2h on back bar for extra DPS when needed. Would I be better served with a frost staff for ranges taunt?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

es4eva wrote: »

I've been using 2h on back bar for extra DPS when needed. Would I be better served with a frost staff for ranges taunt?

no. you would be better served by a ice staff back bar because of the snare that ice wall does and the fact that you can reliably proc the back bar enchant, which ought to be an infused crusher, not because of the range taunt, which is problematic at best.

Joxer61

es4eva wrote: »

I've been using 2h on back bar for extra DPS when needed. Would I be better served with a frost staff for ranges taunt?

why "extra" dps?? Why do tanks want to dps? You are the tank....tank...let the damage dealers worry about the dps. Wish folks would quit trying to cross over and do it all...just tank, and tank well. Roll a dps if that's your jam....

es4eva

Joxer61 wrote: »

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es4eva wrote: »

I've been using 2h on back bar for extra DPS when needed. Would I be better served with a frost staff for ranges taunt?

why "extra" dps?? Why do tanks want to dps? You are the tank....tank...let the damage dealers worry about the dps. Wish folks would quit trying to cross over and do it all...just tank, and tank well. Roll a dps if that's your jam....

I don't disagree with this, actually. For clarity, I do some questing and other solo content with this guy, too...which I know is also sub-optimal.

es4eva

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es4eva wrote: »

I've been using 2h on back bar for extra DPS when needed. Would I be better served with a frost staff for ranges taunt?

no. you would be better served by a ice staff back bar because of the snare that ice wall does and the fact that you can reliably proc the back bar enchant, which ought to be an infused crusher, not because of the range taunt, which is problematic at best.

Awesome, thank you for the info. Still learning this tank thing.

FrancisCrawford

Joxer61 wrote: »

thoughts on NB tank vs Necro? Both have strength's so kinda on the fence on this one.....

In particular, how useful is Major Evasion? It seems made for situations where the tank stands in stupid so that teammates don't have to.

katorga

Take deaden pain over necrotic potency. I have around 77% mitigation with minor maim, major protection, guardian pet (10%), and capped resists.

Joxer61

katorga wrote: »

Take deaden pain over necrotic potency. I have around 77% mitigation with minor maim, major protection, guardian pet (10%), and capped resists.

nice!!!!!!!