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Radiant oppression bug
Syiccal
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Has anyone else noticed this skill is really bad against shields, I can use it against a target with less than 10%hp but if they shield up it does next to 0 damage , not even enough to break the shield
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mook-eb16_ESO✭✭✭✭its not a bug shields now have spell resist if they have very high spell resist and you have low pen/low damage then the shield will outperform the oppression.
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mook-eb16_ESO✭✭✭✭I think some sorc will have something like 22-25k spell resist because they wear chudan0
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Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭I have 13k pen, and decent dmg but the RD hits like a wet noodle on shield, it's like it's not getting the bonus execute dmg from the low health beacuse they are shielded1
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It has been reported. Radiant does nothing against people with shields."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 4332 -
Mrsinister2✭✭✭✭✭It seems the shield acts as effect health and you lose all the bonus excute damage on radiant when hitting a shield.
I can't tell if it's a bug or intended but I could see it being intended with the way shields work now.0 -
Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭I may as well keep using other skills when they are low as the "execute" does nothing to remove shields1
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EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video0
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video
Why don't you post a video if it was debunked?"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 4330 -
Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭All I know is if I fight some one without shields and they get to less than 20% j beam wrecks and they ain't recovering. If I fight someone who shields up it does't do enough damage to take away the shield and they can heal up0
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I nailed a sorc last night that was trying to streak away. Either they forgot to refresh their shield (Completely possible) or it wasn't an issue.
Im more concerned with the huge delay for it to fire allowing a HOT or stray heal to get in there which really ruins an execute.0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video
Why don't you post a video if it was debunked?Hm, as far as I recall this bug was fixed years ago on live, but I don't use garbage-beam in pvp so don't know for sure.
However gave it a try on pts with trying to emit same hp threshold:
Without damage shield:
With damage shield:
^^^And there is no bug. Beam works in execute range against damage shield same as without shields. 66hp difference = 21 damage difference.
P.S.: Nothing unusual with Hardened Ward either.
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Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭Excuse me if I'm being dumb but it does look like radiant glory is hitting each time harder In the top image compare to the bottom one, except the top number highlightedEdited by Syiccal on August 1, 2019 1:23PM0
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Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭From my experience there is definitly an issue , it's so difficult to finish a shield spammer even if they are on 10%hp, RD will not out damage it when it really should as hp is primed for maximum RD output0
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video
Why don't you post a video if it was debunked?Hm, as far as I recall this bug was fixed years ago on live, but I don't use garbage-beam in pvp so don't know for sure.
However gave it a try on pts with trying to emit same hp threshold:
Without damage shield:
With damage shield:
^^^And there is no bug. Beam works in execute range against damage shield same as without shields. 66hp difference = 21 damage difference.
P.S.: Nothing unusual with Hardened Ward either.
So again, it's barely putting a dent a people with a shield. It's bugged..."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 4330 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video
Why don't you post a video if it was debunked?Hm, as far as I recall this bug was fixed years ago on live, but I don't use garbage-beam in pvp so don't know for sure.
However gave it a try on pts with trying to emit same hp threshold:
Without damage shield:
With damage shield:
^^^And there is no bug. Beam works in execute range against damage shield same as without shields. 66hp difference = 21 damage difference.
P.S.: Nothing unusual with Hardened Ward either.
So again, it's barely putting a dent a people with a shield. It's bugged...
@Cinbri could you please explain your methodology to these people?0 -
MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video
Why don't you post a video if it was debunked?Hm, as far as I recall this bug was fixed years ago on live, but I don't use garbage-beam in pvp so don't know for sure.
However gave it a try on pts with trying to emit same hp threshold:
Without damage shield:
With damage shield:
^^^And there is no bug. Beam works in execute range against damage shield same as without shields. 66hp difference = 21 damage difference.
P.S.: Nothing unusual with Hardened Ward either.
So again, it's barely putting a dent a people with a shield. It's bugged...
@Cinbri could you please explain your methodology to these people?
We weren't born yesterday, we all understand shields are acting as additional hp. The fact of the matter is they shouldn't be, because they're not..."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
―Ulrich Leland, 3E 4330 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭EtTuBrutus wrote: »Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video
Why don't you post a video if it was debunked?
Someone did, in that other thread... that u commented on....0 -
EtTuBrutus✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »EtTuBrutus wrote: »Im pretty sure this was tested and debunked like 2 days ago in another thread about templars. Post a video
Why don't you post a video if it was debunked?Hm, as far as I recall this bug was fixed years ago on live, but I don't use garbage-beam in pvp so don't know for sure.
However gave it a try on pts with trying to emit same hp threshold:
Without damage shield:
With damage shield:
^^^And there is no bug. Beam works in execute range against damage shield same as without shields. 66hp difference = 21 damage difference.
P.S.: Nothing unusual with Hardened Ward either.
So again, it's barely putting a dent a people with a shield. It's bugged...
@Cinbri could you please explain your methodology to these people?
We weren't born yesterday, we all understand shields are acting as additional hp. The fact of the matter is they shouldn't be, because they're not...
The damage is scaling properly is what cinbri is showingEdited by EtTuBrutus on August 1, 2019 6:21PM0 -
Baconlad✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah I never noticed an issue here...if ur targets at 10% health and they spam shields there's no amount of damage that can break through the shields with radiant destruction. Sorcs are tricky, but execute is still really strong on them. If they shield while at 10% and accidentally dodge roll or streak it's a wrap for them. The execute will go through the shield then hit them before dodge/ streaks over.
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Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There is no bug regarding execute scaling for damage shields. Shields not act as own HP layer so it cant being own source of execute scaling; but it just inherit execute scaling of current HP. Also Bloodthirsty works properly against damage shields too last time I checked (last month).Excuse me if I'm being dumb but it does look like radiant glory is hitting each time harder In the top image compare to the bottom one, except the top number highlighted
Highlihted numbers are what actual comparable numbers are and they are almost identical, difference is only coz hp bit different. Rest are just unsuccesfull tries to use skill at same hp threshold. Screenshots height is just for target hp was visible to show that it almost at same threshold.
Originally damage shields were bugged and thus ignored execute range completely, so when you was bringing target in execute range and it casted damage shield - damage shield completely ignored execute scaling bonus. In later patch, somewhere after 1.6.5 it was considered as bug that was making damage shields too strong to shut down execute abilities and fixed so damage shield started to inherit execute scaling of HP and thus when target hp in execute range - its shields started to be affected by execute scaling. And that exactly how it works since than.
Advice for OP - drop this garbage beam in pvp, I stopped using it for like 3 years ago and don't miss it at all.Edited by Cinbri on August 1, 2019 7:33PM1