Undaunted dungeons (Veteran? Normal?)

fetito666

How do I know which NPC gives me the Veteran Dungeon and which one the Normal version?

I am kinda confused.

daemonios

They give you the pledge for a specific dungeon. Up to you if you do it on normal (you get 1 key) or veteran (you get 2 keys IF you do the hard mode on the last boss). You can set the normal/veteran mode in the group window or when choosing the dungeon in the group finder.

fetito666

Ah! it used to be different I think years ago (returning player here!). So now I can select the difficulty by myself in the LFG tool, right?

zaria

Vet or normal is optional, you select then you enter dungeon, in finder select specific dungeon.
Normals are listed first and veteran below. You can actually queue for both but as DD you pretty much almost get veteran as more tanks and healers do them.

If you travel directly to dungeon, group leader has to set difficulty in the grouping tool under group before entering.
This is also done for trials and arenas like maelstrom arena.

If new to dungeons i recommend stay with normal until you understand how they works. You also have to be above level 50 to do veteran but cp160 is recomended

fetito666

I am L50 and CP 250 (somehow?). I just want to learn again the dungeons from scratch before I dare the veteran versions.

ATomiX69

fetito666 wrote: »

Ah! it used to be different I think years ago (returning player here!). So now I can select the difficulty by myself in the LFG tool, right?

Youre right it used to be different, you used to get silver / gold pledges but thats a really long time ago.

fetito666 wrote: »

I am L50 and CP 250 (somehow?). I just want to learn again the dungeons from scratch before I dare the veteran versions.

Most of the non DLC content is sadly an absolute faceroll (thanks to the cp-system and powercreep resulting from it) even with hardmodes activated, so you wont really need alot of "learning-process" to clear them.

Now you have 3 NPCs for pledges and as someone already explained depending on difficulty it will give you 1 key (for normal and veteran) or 2 keys (for veteran with hardmode), netting you a maximum of 6 keys per day, per character.

Two of the three pledges are for basegame dungeons and the third is targeted at a DLC dungeon.

fetito666

Thanks!

I talked to Bolgrul and he gave me a delve quest, but I cannot find it in the quest journal, because I already have 24/25 quests activated.

How do I quit his pledge quest?

zaria

fetito666 wrote: »

Thanks!

I talked to Bolgrul and he gave me a delve quest, but I cannot find it in the quest journal, because I already have 24/25 quests activated.

How do I quit his pledge quest?

The undaunted quests is under the zone the dungeon is in, yes this is very confusing and annoying if you did not do all 3.

Bolgrul give delve quests, not group dungeons. They luckily is under guild quests.

fetito666

Thank you! I was going crazy... You're awesome!

fetito666

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

Stebarnz

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

1 key reward from normal and 2 keys reward from vet

Different sets from different chests all cost one key for one opening with RNG

3 different pledge givers 3 different chests.

LordGavus

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

Each chest has a different selection of shoulder. This pic is a bit old but is correct for the non dlc dungeons. All the dlc shoulders come from thr centre chest.

daemonios

Stebarnz wrote: »

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

1 key reward from normal and 2 keys reward from vet

Different sets from different chests all cost one key for one opening with RNG

3 different pledge givers 3 different chests.

If my memory serves me, it used to be that normal pledges gave you a silver key and vet pledges gave you a gold key, which were used in separate chests. So what are YOU on if you remember differently?

fetito666

Thank you!

Okay, I use heavy gear as DPS, but often the chests give me medium gear. Can I somehow have an influence on that? I just need heavy gear.

Do the chests also give purple gear?

@daemonios: I am on coffee.

LordGavus

The gear weight is random, as is the set. You cant influence what drops (or atleast thats what they say )

The gear will all drop in purple.

fetito666

LordGavus wrote: »

The gear weight is random, as is the set. You cant influence what drops (or atleast thats what they say )

The gear will all drop in purple.

So the gear is all of purple CP 160 quality?

LordGavus

The shoulders from the chests are purple. The gear level will match the level of the character opening the chest, up to cp160.

If you are cp70, you will get a level cp70 shoulder of purple quality. Once you are cp160 and over, all shoulders will be cp160.

fetito666

Ok, thanks. Is there better gear than purple CP 160?

I guess if I combine several gear items, I also get the bonus for having several set items.

zaria

Stebarnz wrote: »

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

1 key reward from normal and 2 keys reward from vet

Different sets from different chests all cost one key for one opening with RNG

3 different pledge givers 3 different chests.

2 from vet with hard mode, standard vet is just 1 key.
Vet give purple drops and normal give blue, this is relevant for jewelry.
Veteran also give the monster helmets in random weight and trait.

zaria

fetito666 wrote: »

Ok, thanks. Is there better gear than purple CP 160?

I guess if I combine several gear items, I also get the bonus for having several set items.

its gold, however ignore it outside of weapons unless filthy rich, weapons however is important to have in gold.

FrancisCrawford

The phrase "veteran mode" in dungeons has meant different things at different times. If you mean "veteran" in the current sense, then the NPC pledge givers have nothing to do with it directly. Rather, you (or your group leader) selects normal vs. veteran versions of the dungeon, in one of several ways that all can be found via the "Group" section of your interface.

Also, if you look up a guide online to one of the eight dungeons with a "2" in their names -- Banished Cells 2, Crypt of Hearts 2 and so on -- you might find ones so old that they refer to these dungeons by their previous, obsolete name, which is "veteran mode" (in the old sense) instead of "2".

Stebarnz

daemonios wrote: »

Stebarnz wrote: »

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

1 key reward from normal and 2 keys reward from vet

Different sets from different chests all cost one key for one opening with RNG

3 different pledge givers 3 different chests.

If my memory serves me, it used to be that normal pledges gave you a silver key and vet pledges gave you a gold key, which were used in separate chests. So what are YOU on if you remember differently?

I was on about now clearly, but gratz on the awesomes from the plebeians.

daemonios

Stebarnz wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Stebarnz wrote: »

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

1 key reward from normal and 2 keys reward from vet

Different sets from different chests all cost one key for one opening with RNG

3 different pledge givers 3 different chests.

If my memory serves me, it used to be that normal pledges gave you a silver key and vet pledges gave you a gold key, which were used in separate chests. So what are YOU on if you remember differently?

I was on about now clearly, but gratz on the awesomes from the plebeians.

No, you were on about how the person you replied to was dead wrong in their recollections of how the game used to be, but gratz on the flinging-insults-to-avoid-owning-up-to-a-knee-jerk-reaction tactic:

Stebarnz wrote: »

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

buttaface

The big middle chest. Urgalarg sp Chief-Bane now includes all the newer DLC shoulders as well as what someone posted, so there are quite a few more possibilities in that chest than the prevailing guides show. They are about to change the key system and do away with the chests in the next patch coming soon, so OP, wouldn't spend too much time learning the current system.

fetito666

buttaface wrote: »

The big middle chest. Urgalarg sp Chief-Bane now includes all the newer DLC shoulders as well as what someone posted, so there are quite a few more possibilities in that chest than the prevailing guides show. They are about to change the key system and do away with the chests in the next patch coming soon, so OP, wouldn't spend too much time learning the current system.

Yes, I've read about the upcoming update. Well, I can still obtain XP!

zaria

fetito666 wrote: »

buttaface wrote: »

The big middle chest. Urgalarg sp Chief-Bane now includes all the newer DLC shoulders as well as what someone posted, so there are quite a few more possibilities in that chest than the prevailing guides show. They are about to change the key system and do away with the chests in the next patch coming soon, so OP, wouldn't spend too much time learning the current system.

Yes, I've read about the upcoming update. Well, I can still obtain XP!

The keys should still work and I believe the chests would still be an option, they would be beneficial if you want multiple shoulders, buying an box will be better if you are after one from a chest.

Stebarnz

daemonios wrote: »

Stebarnz wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

Stebarnz wrote: »

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

1 key reward from normal and 2 keys reward from vet

Different sets from different chests all cost one key for one opening with RNG

3 different pledge givers 3 different chests.

If my memory serves me, it used to be that normal pledges gave you a silver key and vet pledges gave you a gold key, which were used in separate chests. So what are YOU on if you remember differently?

I was on about now clearly, but gratz on the awesomes from the plebeians.

No, you were on about how the person you replied to was dead wrong in their recollections of how the game used to be, but gratz on the flinging-insults-to-avoid-owning-up-to-a-knee-jerk-reaction tactic:

Stebarnz wrote: »

fetito666 wrote: »

And what's the difference between all three chests? It used to be that I was able to unlock one special chest with two keys I think.

Nowaydays what's the difference?

I don't know what acid you been havin but I want some as your recollections of this game are all wrong.

Text is flat, I'm telling you what I meant! Have more awesomes.

Op's recollections of the game were wrong, I told him how current system is, you brought up how it used to be, all are correct. GG.

Also I didn't insult anyone merely made observation.