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Looking For Stamina Nightblade Teacher (PC EU)

SToneZ_
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Hi i have just come back to the game after a year break and have decided to go from healer to dps.
After taking my time deciding what class i want to play i settled on Stamina nightblade.
I currently have 687 cp
Im hoping for someone that can teach me to get the rotation down
Im currently only pulling 35k dps in dungeons atm and would really appreciate it if someone could tell me where i was going wrong. Thanks.
Edited by SToneZ_ on July 18, 2019 6:57PM
  • Blinkin8r
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    Google Alcast
    II Blinkin II
    Xbox 1 NA
    "A man without the sauce is lost, but the same man can become lost in the sauce."
  • validifyedneb18_ESO
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    Alcast is actually pretty damn bad at teaching new players. His website is better used as a repository of reference material for working out a new build.

    Stamina builds are identical the world round, generally you have a spammable ability, and a bunch of buffs, dots and AOEs you want to keep down as close to 100% uptime as you can get.

    I recommend taking an Alcast bar layout for simplicity, then ignore his rotation - or use it as an indicator but dont try to replicate it.

    The aim of the game is simple, start on your offbar, cast your timed abilities in order from longest duration to shortest duration, switch to front bar, cast your front bar timed abilities, then spam your "spammable" (Surprise attack for stamblades) and cast your Relentless focus proc every time its up. Switch to your offbar and start again.

    Your aim is to work out a timing to do all this so that you keep ALL your timed abilities at 100% - that means not letting the shortest duration one to time out (for more than 1 second) and not casting an ability that can survive 2 bar swap rotations without timing out every barswap. (Say you have a backbar shortest timed AOE of 10 seconds, so you need to do your backbar every 10 seconds - buuut thats going to be more like every 12 seconds because of the time to cast other items on the backbar - hence you cast the shortest duration last), if you have a 30s duration ability on the backbar, you dont need to cast it every swap, just every other backbar swap.

    This is the general "dynamic" rotation mentality, what Alcast does is test a rotation with this in mind, then turn it into a "Static" rotation where it tells you exactly what to cast in exactly what order. This can be slightly useful for someone like me when im picking up a new class, but mostly I just want to know what the spammable is, and what timing there is on other rotation specific abilities (eg.. relentless focus for NB, Sub Assault for Wardens..). If you work this *** out for yourself, you will understand what to do and why you're doing it a lot better, and this will show when you play in a non static, non sitting at a target dummy, environment.

    Edit: If you REALLY want to improve, and you dont already have perfect gear (exactly the right traits, perfected relequens, vMA [gold] bow), try the PTS, this should help you try stuff out and learn exactly where you're missing damage. At 35k you may be playing pretty well, but just not have some traits set up, or the vMA bow, or zerk offbar enchant. Also make sure you install combat metrics and count your light attacks.
    Edited by validifyedneb18_ESO on July 19, 2019 1:32PM
    EU: Magden, Magknight, Stamsorc(*2), Magsorc
    NA: Magplar, Magden, PotatoBlade
  • Vyvrhel
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    try the PTS
    <- this!

    Also why not to post your race, gear and skills?
    And how much you do on a dummy?
    Rotation is more or less around this: poison arrow, hail, caltrops, trap, leeching strikes when needed, swap, slashes, resolve when needed, spammable (usually surprise attack but I prefer shrouded for solo and pugs)/execute few times until you need to reapply dots, repeat. Adjust according to your preferences. If you play with ranged guys, consider adding webs to the dots to help them.

    About sets, IDK what do you have available and/or how much gold do you have, but Hundings and Mechanical acuity are nice crafted sets, add some crit/stam overland or dungeon set you like to save money since crafted jewelry is so very expensive. However I did some experiments with Hundings + Mech. Acuity with only green jewelry and it worked rather fine for me.
  • SToneZ_
    SToneZ_
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    Alcast is actually pretty damn bad at teaching new players. His website is better used as a repository of reference material for working out a new build.

    Stamina builds are identical the world round, generally you have a spammable ability, and a bunch of buffs, dots and AOEs you want to keep down as close to 100% uptime as you can get.

    I recommend taking an Alcast bar layout for simplicity, then ignore his rotation - or use it as an indicator but dont try to replicate it.

    The aim of the game is simple, start on your offbar, cast your timed abilities in order from longest duration to shortest duration, switch to front bar, cast your front bar timed abilities, then spam your "spammable" (Surprise attack for stamblades) and cast your Relentless focus proc every time its up. Switch to your offbar and start again.

    Your aim is to work out a timing to do all this so that you keep ALL your timed abilities at 100% - that means not letting the shortest duration one to time out (for more than 1 second) and not casting an ability that can survive 2 bar swap rotations without timing out every barswap. (Say you have a backbar shortest timed AOE of 10 seconds, so you need to do your backbar every 10 seconds - buuut thats going to be more like every 12 seconds because of the time to cast other items on the backbar - hence you cast the shortest duration last), if you have a 30s duration ability on the backbar, you dont need to cast it every swap, just every other backbar swap.

    This is the general "dynamic" rotation mentality, what Alcast does is test a rotation with this in mind, then turn it into a "Static" rotation where it tells you exactly what to cast in exactly what order. This can be slightly useful for someone like me when im picking up a new class, but mostly I just want to know what the spammable is, and what timing there is on other rotation specific abilities (eg.. relentless focus for NB, Sub Assault for Wardens..). If you work this *** out for yourself, you will understand what to do and why you're doing it a lot better, and this will show when you play in a non static, non sitting at a target dummy, environment.

    Edit: If you REALLY want to improve, and you dont already have perfect gear (exactly the right traits, perfected relequens, vMA [gold] bow), try the PTS, this should help you try stuff out and learn exactly where you're missing damage. At 35k you may be playing pretty well, but just not have some traits set up, or the vMA bow, or zerk offbar enchant. Also make sure you install combat metrics and count your light attacks.

    Thank you so much for the detailed response. I will download the pts and try to get my rotation down with the perfect gear. Its people like you that makes me love the eso community. thanks again
  • Varaug_Gaming
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    put lethal arrow on all your skill slots

    equip 2 bows

    now rise my legolas spawn, rise
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