[Elsweyr/Scalebreaker/Dragonhold Spoilers] Paarthurnax may be showing up in ESO soon

TheRimOfTheSky

Paarthurnax returning is NOT the spoiler, that's just a speculation for now and there's no confirmation he'll appear. Spoilers are in the image below:



This dialogue comes from completing the Two Moons at Tenmar quest and meeting this guy in the Rimmen Palace during the last Northern Elsweyr main quest. He's describing Moon Priestess Sizenza's vision: Paarthurnax has a broken horn, Sai Sahan's "great mane" is his beard, the children cloaked in scales are the Dragonguard, and the terrible tyrant is probably Kaalgrontiid.

In the Dragonhold DLC prologue quest, you travel with Sai Sahan to a dragon lair in a volcano in Southern Elsweyr, looking for an unbreakable dragonhorn called the Horn of J'darri. The dragon, Valohzin says "You seek the horn of my cowardly brother? Pathetic. Like the Dragonguard before you, death will be your only reward!", Sai says "The Horn of Ja'darri? Is that the horn of Vahlokzin's brother?", and Valohkzin says "A Dragon's horn, willingly given. Pity I don't share my brother's sentiment." Given that the Dragons refer to each other as brothers, its likely that Paarthurnax gave up his horn willingly to turn it into a Dragonhorn.

When you speak to Chevalier Renald in Moongrave Fane (upcoming Scalebreaker dungeon) after finishing it, he says "The hermits of High Hrothgar did not share their secrets with me, and if the greybeards told Grundwulf the truth during his time with them, he never chose to share it with us." When you ask him who the Greybeards are, he says "An order of monks, I'd call them. Recluses who sit at the Throat of the World and practice shouting at the heavens. I sought them out to gain this power for the Dragonguard, but they refused, save for one. A young man, new to the order: Grundwulf." Since Paarthurnax leads the Greybeards, we could see this as another teaser.

Aliyavana

There is going to be a lot of people that are going confuse the title's speculation as a spoiler, due to not know the difference between the two.

Speculation= What people think will happen, which the title would be an example of and the theory surrounding a future appearance.

Spoiler= What is confirmed to actually happen. The thread you willingly clicked on and the content that that you were warned would contain spoilers.

ArchMikem

I had no idea Paarthurnax had a broken horn. If he does actually show up in Dragonhold thats going to be the biggest reach around to all the Skyrim fanbois ive seen yet.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

it doesnt mean anything...Sai Sahan is dead...at least this one mad sure of it when his very existence was deleted from this plane of existence.

RinaldoGandolphi

Paarthurnax showing up on ESO makes zero sense to the timeline.

Jurgen Windcaller founded the Way of The Voice around the 1st era 424. It was around this time that Paarthurnax joined the Way Of the Voice. He didn’t become the Grand Master until after the death of Jugen Windcaller. During this time he is 100% committed to The Way of The Voice and overcoming his in born nature. Why would he care about what happens in ESO?

All Paarthurnaax cares about is The Way of The Voice and Alduin. He knows he has to help the Dragonborn of Prophecy against Alduin and is biding his time.

Furthermore, Paarthurnaax is being protected by The Greybeards on that mountain, The Blades have been hunting him for decades just waiting for him to leave that mountain, no way he risks that. The Blades are very much still active in ESO, they are just doing what they always do which is sticking to the shadows, remaining unseen, watching for dragons and a Dragonborn. As the famous saying goes:

“You keep secrets like The Blades”

If they put Parthy in the game anywhere other than the top of the Monohovan, it just for more sakes from Skyrim people

Korah_Eaglecry

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Paarthurnax showing up on ESO makes zero sense to the timeline.

Jurgen Windcaller founded the Way of The Voice around the 1st era 424. It was around this time that Paarthurnax joined the Way Of the Voice. He didn’t become the Grand Master until after the death of Jugen Windcaller. During this time he is 100% committed to The Way of The Voice and overcoming his in born nature. Why would he care about what happens in ESO?

All Paarthurnaax cares about is The Way of The Voice and Alduin. He knows he has to help the Dragonborn of Prophecy against Alduin and is biding his time.

Furthermore, Paarthurnaax is being protected by The Greybeards on that mountain, The Blades have been hunting him for decades just waiting for him to leave that mountain, no way he risks that. The Blades are very much still active in ESO, they are just doing what they always do which is sticking to the shadows, remaining unseen, watching for dragons and a Dragonborn. As the famous saying goes:

“You keep secrets like The Blades”

If they put Parthy in the game anywhere other than the top of the Monohovan, it just for more sakes from Skyrim people

They will definitely do this and say that "its the interregnum anything could happen. The lore doesnt strictly forbide it!"

Im honestly not a fan of the introduction of the dragons because it can easily become something overdone or stretched beyond any reasonable players suspension of disbelief. Paarthurnax involving himself in this issue is going against what we know about the Dragon and the issues related to Tamriel over the millenias. Plenty of dragons are roaming about through out recorded history and he doesnt raise a clawed wing to do anything about it. And with the Vestige and heroes like Sai Sahan and Abnur Tharn taking out Dragons in Elswyr, there is no reason for him to suddenly change behavior now.

Faulgor

Yeah, picked that up immediately when the "dragon with a broken horn" was mentioned. I don't think there's any other memorable one.

I also don't see much of an issue with his appearance. Kaalgrontiid's power trip could certainly convince him to take action in some form.

MaxJrFTW

Reported for possibly spoiling the story 😒

mattyswaggy

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Paarthurnax showing up on ESO makes zero sense to the timeline.

Jurgen Windcaller founded the Way of The Voice around the 1st era 424. It was around this time that Paarthurnax joined the Way Of the Voice. He didn’t become the Grand Master until after the death of Jugen Windcaller. During this time he is 100% committed to The Way of The Voice and overcoming his in born nature. Why would he care about what happens in ESO?

All Paarthurnaax cares about is The Way of The Voice and Alduin. He knows he has to help the Dragonborn of Prophecy against Alduin and is biding his time.

Furthermore, Paarthurnaax is being protected by The Greybeards on that mountain, The Blades have been hunting him for decades just waiting for him to leave that mountain, no way he risks that. The Blades are very much still active in ESO, they are just doing what they always do which is sticking to the shadows, remaining unseen, watching for dragons and a Dragonborn. As the famous saying goes:

“You keep secrets like The Blades”

If they put Parthy in the game anywhere other than the top of the Monohovan, it just for more sakes from Skyrim people

But the blades don't exist until the rise of Tiber Septim at the end of the Second Era. I personally don't think Paarthurnaax will be involved but if he is it'll be for very good reason no doubt about that. Besides if you were the Dragonguard, wouldn't you be more concerned about the threat of (I can't remember how to spell his name) Kaalogrontiid than to press charges against a dragon, a well known, who is trying to help?

Aliyavana

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Reported for possibly spoiling the story 😒

You chose to click on the thread. The spoilers are inside the thread, there is no spoilers in the title, which is just speculation

mattyswaggy

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Reported for possibly spoiling the story 😒

Exactly it says spoilers in the title and it's speculation. You shouldn't report something if it's "possibly" spoiling.

MaxJrFTW

Aliyavana wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Reported for possibly spoiling the story 😒

You chose to click on the thread. The spoilers are inside the thread, there is no spoilers in the title, which is just speculation

The potential spoilers are in the title.

Aliyavana

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Aliyavana wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

Reported for possibly spoiling the story 😒

You chose to click on the thread. The spoilers are inside the thread, there is no spoilers in the title, which is just speculation

The potential spoilers are in the title.

speculation not "potential spoilers".

Aliyavana

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Paarthurnax showing up on ESO makes zero sense to the timeline.

Jurgen Windcaller founded the Way of The Voice around the 1st era 424. It was around this time that Paarthurnax joined the Way Of the Voice. He didn’t become the Grand Master until after the death of Jugen Windcaller. During this time he is 100% committed to The Way of The Voice and overcoming his in born nature. Why would he care about what happens in ESO?

All Paarthurnaax cares about is The Way of The Voice and Alduin. He knows he has to help the Dragonborn of Prophecy against Alduin and is biding his time.

Furthermore, Paarthurnaax is being protected by The Greybeards on that mountain, The Blades have been hunting him for decades just waiting for him to leave that mountain, no way he risks that. The Blades are very much still active in ESO, they are just doing what they always do which is sticking to the shadows, remaining unseen, watching for dragons and a Dragonborn. As the famous saying goes:

“You keep secrets like The Blades”

If they put Parthy in the game anywhere other than the top of the Monohovan, it just for more sakes from Skyrim people

blades do not exist yet. the dialogue rim noted implies that paarthanax will team up with their predecessors, the dragonguard.

SantieClaws

If you take the bit about them spawning children together quite literally then it is quite a disturbing thought no?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Aliyavana

Don't kink shame sai lol

RinaldoGandolphi

Aliyavana wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Paarthurnax showing up on ESO makes zero sense to the timeline.

Jurgen Windcaller founded the Way of The Voice around the 1st era 424. It was around this time that Paarthurnax joined the Way Of the Voice. He didn’t become the Grand Master until after the death of Jugen Windcaller. During this time he is 100% committed to The Way of The Voice and overcoming his in born nature. Why would he care about what happens in ESO?

All Paarthurnaax cares about is The Way of The Voice and Alduin. He knows he has to help the Dragonborn of Prophecy against Alduin and is biding his time.

Furthermore, Paarthurnaax is being protected by The Greybeards on that mountain, The Blades have been hunting him for decades just waiting for him to leave that mountain, no way he risks that. The Blades are very much still active in ESO, they are just doing what they always do which is sticking to the shadows, remaining unseen, watching for dragons and a Dragonborn. As the famous saying goes:

“You keep secrets like The Blades”

If they put Parthy in the game anywhere other than the top of the Monohovan, it just for more sakes from Skyrim people

blades do not exist yet. the dialogue rim noted implies that paarthanax will team up with their predecessors, the dragonguard.

The Blades ARE the Dragonguard. I use the term interchangeably. The Blades erected Sky haven temple well before the events of ESO and protected Remen II. They constructed Alduin wall in the 1st Era 2812. ESO takes place in the 2nd era 583.

The Dragonguard was renamed The Blades later on, and took on official roles as spies and security after the assasination of Remen IIInst the hands of the Morag Tong, prior to this they were very much under the direct command of the Dragonborn Emperor, just in a different role being more military than security.

I only stated the Blades are watching because right now with no Dragonborn to guard they are simply biding their time and protecting those they think might be Dragonborn.

Paarthurnaax was a top priority for The Dragonguard.

shezof

since ZoS likes milking Skyrim elements i don't doubt this will happen.

MoAr DrAgOnS!1!

CambionDaemon

They only put dragons in to jump on Game of Thrones bandwagon.

Carbonised

I hope this is a prelude for next years chapter being the rest of Skyrim. Time to bring glory to the homeland after The Rift and Eastmarch being somewhat boring and bland compared to TESV. Would love to see all the rest of Skyrim, plus we would finally get more dwemer dungeons too, after last two chapters and all zone dlc had none.

Kesstryl

I would personally love to see Paarthurnax come into the story at some point. I think he would be better suited for an ESO Skyrim expansion, but yes, I want to see my favorite Skyrim character in this era. I chose not to kill him and ultimately lost finishing the Blades quest in Skyrim, but I wanted him to continue to live forever on that mountain so I could always visit him.

CardboardedBox

Hmm, who would voice him?

CambionDaemon

CardboardedBox wrote: »

Hmm, who would voice him?

'Hey its me, Paarthurnax'

Gronk

Is there not a Blade agent in the Cyrodilll Sewer birthplace of the Imperials ?One that thou dost hast quests for you? I think that she is there to keep an eye on the Imperial Nursery, so the Nords do not do to them what the elf people did to the Argonian overlords of the dunmer.

luen79rwb17_ESO

I knew it! Next ESO chapter will be called: "Skyrim - MMO edition".

JadonSky

Wow I remember that conversation and didn't put the two together other then the part about the blades.

ArchMikem

SantieClaws wrote: »

If you take the bit about them spawning children together quite literally then it is quite a disturbing thought no?

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

Oh you're a GIRL Dragon, I mean of course you're a girl Dragon, you just reek of feminine beauty, and do i detect a hint of minty freshness?

Mitrenga

ZoS continues feed the Skyrim folks.

Seraphayel

Carbonised wrote: »

I hope this is a prelude for next years chapter being the rest of Skyrim. Time to bring glory to the homeland after The Rift and Eastmarch being somewhat boring and bland compared to TESV. Would love to see all the rest of Skyrim, plus we would finally get more dwemer dungeons too, after last two chapters and all zone dlc had none.

Why would they go for a Skyrim Chapter in 2020 when 2021 is the 10th Anniversary and would generate a lot more buzz?

By the way this is another thread where we speculated about the next Chapter and have already gathered some neat ideas. Would love to hear more of them over there!

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/480473/chapter-iv-whats-coming-after-elsweyr/p1

Numerikuu

ArchMikem wrote: »

I had no idea Paarthurnax had a broken horn. If he does actually show up in Dragonhold thats going to be the biggest reach around to all the Skyrim fanbois ive seen yet.

God, all of this. That, and completely lore breaking since he never left that mountain...

If I hear "oh, but dragon break!" one more time as an excuse for the lore/writing I'm going to strangle the one behind it

Hallothiel

No more bloody Skyrim please!!

Loads of places to go - please not back there.

Please.