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Do ZOS even acknowledge how laggy the game has become?

Fawn4287
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I play on a one x from Australia on the xbox NA server and increasingly over the course of the last ~2 years the lag in this game has gone from bad, to worse and to now borderline unplayable this update. In not even peak time PVP I would say you get choppy framerates of 10< more often than not with that moving to at times ~1fps near the zergs and without fail getting a long loading screen at every keep change. In areas like wayrest and mournhold Im barely able to bar swap (let alone animation cancel)which can take up to 3-4 seconds depending. I can see why so many people have quit PVP entirely or are forced to run cheesy fire and forget playstyle dot builds, sword and boards, 30k+ health on everything and lingering health pots just to deal with an eventual like spike that will likelylead to death. So my question is do ZOS acknowledge how bad the state of the game is, do they plan to improve it and can they add a FPS counter so I can laugh at it as I mash the same button for the 5th time to still not have my ability cast.
Edited by Fawn4287 on July 14, 2019 4:06AM
  • Morgul667
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    They believe they are killing it ...
  • GhostofDatthaw
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    Have you tried checking your Internet connection? Could be a problem with your isp
  • LegacyDM
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    Nope. They removed the Cyrodil Test Event Sticky and the Performance Sticky about 2 years ago... They think if they stop acknowledging the problem, people will just accept it for what it is. I think at this point its not going to ever be fixed so why bring bad publicity to themselves by acknowledging a problem they cant fix? If they tell the community they can't fix it, that looks bad. People will get upset. If they tell the community they are actively fixing it, they are lying, cause clearly it's been 5 years and nothing. So, they just don't say anything anymore. Nothing to see here folks. Let people think they are fixing it while keeping the PVE crowd happy.
    Edited by LegacyDM on July 14, 2019 10:30AM
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  • Palidon
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    Do ZOS even acknowledge how laggy the game has become?

    Answer: NO

    What Have They Done To Even Address The Issue?

    Answer: NOTHING

    Do You Think They Will Eventually Fix the Lag Issue in PvP or even Care?

    Answer: I Doubt It and if they really cared would of done something about it by now.

    What is really sad is I have lost count on how many threads there are in ZOS' forums not to mention other forums on the internet that have complained about the lag issue in ESO.
  • valeriiya
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    Supposedly they're working on something for Q4 but I don't have much hope for that. They've been "working on it" for years
  • Seraphayel
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    valeriiya wrote: »
    Supposedly they're working on something for Q4 but I don't have much hope for that. They've been "working on it" for years

    Q4 performance fix: “We’ve added queue times to Cyrodiil - maximum amount of players at once is 10 per faction.“
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  • InvictusApollo
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    The lag in pvp is precidelly the reason I've stopped playing ESO and went to Black Desert Online.
    I haven't tested pvp there yet but combat is much, much more enjoyable, challenging and rewarding.
  • RedGirl41
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    The lag and now the problem with skill delay is 100% going to kill the game. Currently on ps4 NA the skill delay (I’m not even zerg areas) is insanely noticeable. I will use dragon leap and 5+ seconds later the enemy will take the damage (if this ability even lands)
  • kaithuzar
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    The lag in pvp is precidelly the reason I've stopped playing ESO and went to Black Desert Online.
    I haven't tested pvp there yet but combat is much, much more enjoyable, challenging and rewarding.

    Until you actually git gud
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    The lag in pvp is precidelly the reason I've stopped playing ESO and went to Black Desert Online.
    I haven't tested pvp there yet but combat is much, much more enjoyable, challenging and rewarding.

    Horrible, nasty, dirty, button-mashing, P2W, ***-fest.
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  • DGVish
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    The lag in pvp is precidelly the reason I've stopped playing ESO and went to Black Desert Online.
    I haven't tested pvp there yet but combat is much, much more enjoyable, challenging and rewarding.


    You will absolutely not be able to compete in world PvP in endgame spots until you're full TET with TRI accessories. Which will take.... like a year if you're comitted, no joke... no seriously like a year and that's giving you every benefit of the doubt towards your commitment and some good RNG. That game is very unforgiving.

    As good as the combat and PvP is, that game is seriously cancerous AF. I have a 63 Wizard in full TET with a PEN Dande+PEN Tree armor and that game is dead to me.
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Bam_Bam wrote: »
    The lag in pvp is precidelly the reason I've stopped playing ESO and went to Black Desert Online.
    I haven't tested pvp there yet but combat is much, much more enjoyable, challenging and rewarding.

    Horrible, nasty, dirty, button-mashing, P2W, ***-fest.

    I might rather that compared to an unplayable, horrible, nasty, dirty, button mashing, zerg2win, lag-fest.
  • kaithuzar
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    If anyone wants to know what playing black desert is like, next time you go to enhance armor/weapons only use 1 material, not the max.
    White to green - default is 2 mats; use 1
    Green to blue - default is 4 mats; use 1
    Blue to purple - default is 6 mats; use 1
    Purple to gold - default is 8 mats; use 1

    THEN buy crowns, sell items for gold, rinse & repeat enhancement above.
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  • Blinkin8r
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    They will acknowledge it by closing any post stating the lag is bad.
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  • vokage89
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    Yup..lag is Trash confirmed....
  • Aixy
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    Palidon wrote: »
    Do ZOS even acknowledge how laggy the game has become?

    Answer: NO

    What Have They Done To Even Address The Issue?

    Answer: NOTHING

    Do You Think They Will Eventually Fix the Lag Issue in PvP or even Care?

    Answer: I Doubt It and if they really cared would of done something about it by now.

    What is really sad is I have lost count on how many threads there are in ZOS' forums not to mention other forums on the internet that have complained about the lag issue in ESO.


    What Have They Done To Even Address The Issue?

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    Kind of, they know and they do mention it. However they don't acknowledge it every time it comes up.

    I think most of the devs you speak to will normally agree it's there and an issue (they would be stupid not to), they just don't tend to post on the forums at least until they have new information they feel is worth sharing.
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  • Aixy
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Kind of, they know and they do mention it. However they don't acknowledge it every time it comes up.

    I think most of the devs you speak to will normally agree it's there and an issue (they would be stupid not to), they just don't tend to post on the forums at least until they have new information they feel is worth sharing.


    Ok... 5 years later...... and..... ¿?¡??¡¡?.... things are worse than ever ....

    We don't want more crowns or the same type of DLC, we don't want free crown crates, we are tired of mounts and pets: We want they finaly fix the game because right now is unplayable (the lag is realy realy bad).-
  • Insco851
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    One of the worst times recently. Skills just don’t fire. Oh you needed that buff? Oh that shield? Mmm nah dead instead.
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    The worst part is you buy the expansion, grind up a character, get your build put together, etc..and when you go to actually play (pvp anyway) it’s a garbage experience just like it was 5 years ago.

    They don’t have a fix
  • Marcus684
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    With Elsweyr being on sale I considered buying it, but decided, “What’s the point?” Why level and gear up a couple of necromancers when Cyrodiil performance will make playing them an exercise in frustration? I’m not spending one more cent on this game until ZOS does something about performance.
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    Marcus684 wrote: »
    With Elsweyr being on sale I considered buying it, but decided, “What’s the point?” Why level and gear up a couple of necromancers when Cyrodiil performance will make playing them an exercise in frustration? I’m not spending one more cent on this game until ZOS does something about performance.

    Do this everyone.
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    I was under the impression that the recent skill standardization was an effort to reduce the server calculation load and improve performance. Of course, whether or not it helps remains to be seen. I'm about the last person on earth to defend ZOS and their pitiful poor performance, but at least they're trying to do something.
    Edited by danthemann5 on July 26, 2019 2:08PM
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  • EtTuBrutus
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    I was under the impression that the recent skill standardization was an effort to reduce the server calculation load and improve performance. Of course, whether or not it helps remains to be seen. I'm about the last person on earth to defend ZOS and their pitiful poor performance, but at least they're trying to do something.

    That is not what the standardization is out to do at all.. where did u get that impression?

    100k gold says it gets worse.
  • No_Division
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    I was under the impression that the recent skill standardization was an effort to reduce the server calculation load and improve performance. Of course, whether or not it helps remains to be seen. I'm about the last person on earth to defend ZOS and their pitiful poor performance, but at least they're trying to do something.

    That is not what the standardization is out to do at all.. where did u get that impression?

    100k gold says it gets worse.

    200k gold says its because they overloaded animations to make them prettier and dog-piled the servers with physics related calculations like light rays coming off abilities in addition to the AOE healing checking for 6 targets in a 40man raid lol.
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    On Xbox NA my guild has agreed lag is now a feature like a proc set. It either procs on you and you freeze and die or vise versa on the enemy. A lot of times it’s both.
  • coradaelu
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    It's been 5 years and it's like the first time i was on Cyro, in Prime time is Unplayable, they cannot handle too much people in one place.
  • EtTuBrutus
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    I was under the impression that the recent skill standardization was an effort to reduce the server calculation load and improve performance. Of course, whether or not it helps remains to be seen. I'm about the last person on earth to defend ZOS and their pitiful poor performance, but at least they're trying to do something.

    That is not what the standardization is out to do at all.. where did u get that impression?

    100k gold says it gets worse.

    200k gold says its because they overloaded animations to make them prettier and dog-piled the servers with physics related calculations like light rays coming off abilities in addition to the AOE healing checking for 6 targets in a 40man raid lol.

    You really think the underlying issue of lag is why they are standardizing the tooltips of skills and sets? I call.
  • No_Division
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    I was under the impression that the recent skill standardization was an effort to reduce the server calculation load and improve performance. Of course, whether or not it helps remains to be seen. I'm about the last person on earth to defend ZOS and their pitiful poor performance, but at least they're trying to do something.

    That is not what the standardization is out to do at all.. where did u get that impression?

    100k gold says it gets worse.

    200k gold says its because they overloaded animations to make them prettier and dog-piled the servers with physics related calculations like light rays coming off abilities in addition to the AOE healing checking for 6 targets in a 40man raid lol.

    You really think the underlying issue of lag is why they are standardizing the tooltips of skills and sets? I call.

    No I think it's then updating all the animations to be pretty and adding additional animations to server calcs. For example they added anew animation that uses the psyics of the engine to create a phased animation. Most of the effects shoot light Ray's all over the place too. And them adding AOE heals that are allied targets but capped at 6 so the game struggles to figure out which of the 100 players on the screen deserve the heal.
  • Kadoin
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    The game is not laggy, it is working as int...d.. in....ten...d...

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