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Precognition is straight up broken

coppersly
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The ult that you have to grind for and should be very effective for pvp scenarios is effectively worthless because it never actually works as intended.
I have seen it not work in literally every single aspect of what it is supposed to do.
It has failed to give me my health or resources from 4 seconds ago
It has failed to move me where I was 4 seconds ago
It has failed to work while CC'd
It has failed to give CC immunity if it DOES actually activate
It has failed to even ACTIVATE while standing still and doing nothing, literally nothing else

So I ask, why is such a grindy ult that is great on paper mauled by bugs to the point it doesn't even work and yet I've never seen it in recent patch notes, or that it is even a known problem skill, why isn't anything being done about this?
  • frostz417
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    This skill has been broken since DerpMire AKA bugmire, nerfmire or murkmire. Whatever you call that trash ass patch.
    Anyways, zos hasn’t even bothered addressing it let along fixing it.
  • jediodyn_ESO
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    It doesn’t get used in part of a burst combo or make you invincible with 4 people beating on you, or let you cheese PvE content in its current state. So ‘not working’ probably puts it way down on the priority list beyond all the other terribly balanced abilities they’re busy desperately trying to improve.
  • TheYKcid
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    I only ever use Temporal Guard, and it already makes me tear my hair out.

    I can imagine how frustrating it must be to have additional effects that are only there to fail on you at the worst possible moments.

    Hoping these skills get fixed but I won't hold my breath...
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  • khajiitNPC
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    It works for me, just not on my DK for obvious reasons.
  • Emma_Overload
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    Undo worked better when it was released than it does now... ZOS is actually ADDING bugs to this skill!
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  • Grollok76
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    Undo worked better when it was released than it does now... ZOS is actually ADDING bugs to this skill!

    Isn't that true for literally every aspect of this mess called ESO?
  • Hazurko_RaShan
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    No psijic skills should be allowed to work with any necromancer, because.... manimarco
    Edited by Hazurko_RaShan on July 13, 2019 8:56PM
  • Jeremy
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    coppersly wrote: »
    The ult that you have to grind for and should be very effective for pvp scenarios is effectively worthless because it never actually works as intended.
    I have seen it not work in literally every single aspect of what it is supposed to do.
    It has failed to give me my health or resources from 4 seconds ago
    It has failed to move me where I was 4 seconds ago
    It has failed to work while CC'd
    It has failed to give CC immunity if it DOES actually activate
    It has failed to even ACTIVATE while standing still and doing nothing, literally nothing else

    So I ask, why is such a grindy ult that is great on paper mauled by bugs to the point it doesn't even work and yet I've never seen it in recent patch notes, or that it is even a known problem skill, why isn't anything being done about this?

    It's not a very impressive ultimate to be sure - even when it works.

    If they made it super cheap to where it could actually be used consistently as an alternative to break free it might be worth something. But in it's current state - yeah I would agree. It's worthless. It didn't take me very long to refund that point.
    Edited by Jeremy on July 13, 2019 9:31PM
  • coppersly
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    This skill has been broken since DerpMire AKA bugmire, nerfmire or murkmire. Whatever you call that trash ass patch.
    Anyways, zos hasn’t even bothered addressing it let along fixing it.

    Thanks for informing me. They fooled me with the ol' make a cool dlc with interesting skills and charge them money for it and not even do basic bug testing for them and then never even address them again cash grab!
  • Vermethys
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    It's an awfully terrible and clunky ability to use. I only ever used Temporal Guard for the Minor Protection on my main bar. Even so, I much prefer running Spell Wall.

    Only time its activation was useful for me was when I was getting chased by three players -- I jumped off a cliff in the Istirus Outpost map, activated the ability, returned to my previous position, and ran the other way while my opponents had already jumped off.
    Edited by Vermethys on July 14, 2019 7:28PM
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  • Merlight
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    coppersly wrote: »
    So I ask, why is such a grindy ult that is great on paper mauled by bugs to the point it doesn't even work and yet I've never seen it in recent patch notes, or that it is even a known problem skill, why isn't anything being done about this?

    Because all bug reports come from a minority of playerbase.
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  • MaxJrFTW
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    Works 1 out of 10 times.
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  • Seraphayel
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    Vermethys wrote: »
    It's an awfully terrible and clunky ability to use. I only ever used Temporal Guard for the Minor Protection on my main bar. Even so, I much prefer running Spell Wall.

    Only time its activation was useful for me was when I was getting chased by three players -- I jumped off a cliff in the Istirus Outpost map, activated the ability, returned to my previous position, and ran the other way while my opponents had already jumped off.

    Yeah cheesing with heights, cliffs etc is really the only scenario where this skill is actually useful.
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  • shaielzafine
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    coppersly wrote: »
    frostz417 wrote: »
    This skill has been broken since DerpMire AKA bugmire, nerfmire or murkmire. Whatever you call that trash ass patch.
    Anyways, zos hasn’t even bothered addressing it let along fixing it.

    Thanks for informing me. They fooled me with the ol' make a cool dlc with interesting skills and charge them money for it and not even do basic bug testing for them and then never even address them again cash grab!

    They know about bugs from pts and people give feedback here in the forums but they go ahead anyway and push it on to live. Then when people report the same bugs on live, customer support ignores and the forums posts get buried by other complaint threads. I'm pretty sure the only thing they've kept running properly and respond to in forums officially is crown store requests and features.
  • barney2525
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    If you stand still, in a safe area, for 10 seconds, and then activate it.... it works fine :)




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  • coppersly
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    Vermethys wrote: »
    It's an awfully terrible and clunky ability to use. I only ever used Temporal Guard for the Minor Protection on my main bar. Even so, I much prefer running Spell Wall.

    Only time its activation was useful for me was when I was getting chased by three players -- I jumped off a cliff in the Istirus Outpost map, activated the ability, returned to my previous position, and ran the other way while my opponents had already jumped off.

    You're lucky then, I've used it many times mid fall and post fall for it only to leave me exactly where I fell and not where I was.
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    When you use this ultimate, don't tell anyone. It just looks like you just died on purpose, instead of:
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  • TheYKcid
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    MaxJrFTW wrote: »
    Works 1 out of 10 times.

    10% of the time, it works every time!
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  • Thogard
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    Devs know it’s a bug. Gina has talked about it multiple times and so has Gilliam.
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  • Jaraal
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    Any fixes for this yet?
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  • Brrrofski
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    Vermethys wrote: »
    It's an awfully terrible and clunky ability to use. I only ever used Temporal Guard for the Minor Protection on my main bar. Even so, I much prefer running Spell Wall.

    Only time its activation was useful for me was when I was getting chased by three players -- I jumped off a cliff in the Istirus Outpost map, activated the ability, returned to my previous position, and ran the other way while my opponents had already jumped off.

    My experience is jumping off the cliff and it not working at all, so I lose 70% of my health and the three people are still on me.

    So I lost all my ult and 70% of my life. Great.

    I had a new bug with it the other day. It didn't teleport me back, but I got stuck in the animation for like 10 seconds and could do anything except move around.
    Edited by Brrrofski on January 19, 2020 11:54AM
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