If you don't like the changes, do something

hakan

CipherNine wrote: »

oxygen_thief wrote: »

CipherNine wrote: »

Yeah GL with that. Tons of bugs are always reported on the PTS. Players always give constructive feedback after playing the PTS. Nothing changes. The patch is always released and those reported bugs are still there.

ZOS does not listen to its playerbase. well unless its the PVPers whining and getting things nerfed. Which is what this whole patch is about. PVP

but its a pvp game. find yourself another pve oriented game and be happy

What a delusional statement. PvP is a mini-game. A broken one at that. ESO would have been vastly better off without it. This is Elder Scrolls a game that is majority PvE players because that is obviously what Elder Scrolls attracts. Without PvP all the resources could have gone to what a Elder Scrolls game is about, The Story, the questing, you know real RPG aspects. Also more and better group content. No nerfs that ruin PvE for the sake of PvP.

Saying delusional then making a delusional statement.

With your logic, no, pve is a minority too.

Casual pve and overland are way different than vet content which most of the builds tend to get optimisized for.

This game pulled a huge crowd when they released those trailers with cyro battles.

But thank god! Zos tendencies to not listen to community too much is sometimes useful so we dont suffer from you guys' opinions and ideals about this game lol.

Nevermind ye fact that this pve/pvp/casual conversation is bs.

mongoLC

The only thing that zos listens to is money.

People canceling there subs and sending feedback to [email protected] is what got the last idiot fired and will work for this one as well.

Cancel your sub tell them its due to the eso combat team and you won't resub until there is a major change then we can watch this guy go away as well

Ardan147

Are people going to be doing vet trials on the PTS, to see that they can still be done with all the changes being made?

Take The Warrior's starfall attack in vet HRC, that deals massive amounts of damage that there is pretty much no way to avoid. One might be able to block or use shields to mitigate some of it, but no matter what a lot of it is going to go through and unless the group's healers can somehow heal through that damage the group is not going to survive. Will the healers still be able to manage that?

Zathras

SirAxen wrote: »

If you feel strongly about something, you should: A.) Go actually test it and see for yourself instead of knee jerking. B.) Provide constructive feedback in the proper sticky threads provided by ZOS so they can be seen. C.) Actually do both A and B instead of hiding behind the excuse of 'They never change anything anyway' when they actually have and do if valid arguments are provided to actually convince them otherwise. Kicking and screaming doesn't change someones plans.

Are you new to the game? Because thousands of people have done what you have suggested since the game launched, so we have seen for ourselves that your plan is generally ineffectual with this management team.

Reducing people's distaste to "kicking and screaming" grossly dismisses players who are experienced with the PTS cycle.

It's more like, there is a proven history that the initial patch notes rarely budge from their proposed changes, and everyone knows it. Based on this, there is an inherent sense of futility and frustration. Brushing people off like they are children does not improve that climate.

CipherNine

hakan wrote: »

CipherNine wrote: »

oxygen_thief wrote: »

CipherNine wrote: »

Yeah GL with that. Tons of bugs are always reported on the PTS. Players always give constructive feedback after playing the PTS. Nothing changes. The patch is always released and those reported bugs are still there.

ZOS does not listen to its playerbase. well unless its the PVPers whining and getting things nerfed. Which is what this whole patch is about. PVP

but its a pvp game. find yourself another pve oriented game and be happy

What a delusional statement. PvP is a mini-game. A broken one at that. ESO would have been vastly better off without it. This is Elder Scrolls a game that is majority PvE players because that is obviously what Elder Scrolls attracts. Without PvP all the resources could have gone to what a Elder Scrolls game is about, The Story, the questing, you know real RPG aspects. Also more and better group content. No nerfs that ruin PvE for the sake of PvP.

Saying delusional then making a delusional statement.

With your logic, no, pve is a minority too.

Casual pve and overland are way different than vet content which most of the builds tend to get optimisized for.

This game pulled a huge crowd when they released those trailers with cyro battles.

But thank god! Zos tendencies to not listen to community too much is sometimes useful so we dont suffer from you guys' opinions and ideals about this game lol.

Nevermind ye fact that this pve/pvp/casual conversation is bs.

I guess you dont know how to read either.
I said "also more and better group content" I was including vet content into that obviously.

If you think PVPers are not in the minority you are just beyond delusional. This is an Elder Scrolls game. A franchise of Single Player games. It is mostly PvE players. Get over it. Your precious PVP is not the majority.

Androconium

Somebody please test that Mara's Chook has her egg-laying and cackling restored.
This is all that really matters in this game.

That's me "doing something about it".

Aznarb

January1171 wrote: »

I think people are forgetting something very big- these patch notes are for the PTS. By definition, they are still being tested. If you are really unhappy with the changes, you can do something about it. Go to the PTS, play with the changes, and provide your honest and constructive feedback. That's what the PTS is for. So players can test it out and provide feedback that ZOS can work from to make further edits.

Wanna talk a bit about Frostvault bug report and how they fix them all ? Oh wait..