Is it a "hidden" performance patch?

Lisutaris

Less pets (not only because of nerfs, but also like proccs from undaunted webs. 1 spider instead of 2 ? why ?)
Less stuff happening (only 1 orb, only 1 healing springs at the same time possible)
0.5 second (like hail) gets changed to 1 second ticks.
a lot of skills get changed to a lesser "frequency" (f.e. vigor).
Stuff/skills get standardized. (more or less fixed values for DOTs, HOTs, AoE, ...)

Is it just me ? Are they trying to reduce the "load" on servers? Is this the "performance" improvement we got told about ?
If yes, I am a little bit dissapointed. That would be far from "rewriting the code".

Whats your opinion on this ? It looks like nerfmire, we can call it nerfbreaker... BUT is this really everything ?
Please let's discuss about this in a proper manner.
This one hopes that it's just because of the tin foil hat for khajiits... but Lisu is feeling very irritated.

P.S. WW is dead. (hey that's like my new signature )

WoppaBoem

I had the same feeling when reading it. I expect this patch to be a performance upgrade due to nerfs lol

Thevampirenight

It might help with the performance a bit possibly. They said the changes were not going to do much in that area I think or the performance changes wouldn't be coming till update 24. But I'm thinking these changes could help maybe somewhat. So who knows maybe it will be a improvement to performance or maybe it won't do much at all in that area. I'm sure once people test it out and once it goes live unless they make changes then I think people would know for sure.

Lisutaris

WoppaBoem wrote: »

I had the same feeling when reading it. I expect this patch to be a performance upgrade due to nerfs lol

Do you think they thought about the maelstrom arena bow ? 0,5s -> 1,0s frequency change makes it .... ... 50% nerf on maelstrom bow i would say .

AbysmalGhul

Lisutaris wrote: »

Less pets (not only because of nerfs, but also like proccs from undaunted webs. 1 spider instead of 2 ? why ?)
Less stuff happening (only 1 orb, only 1 healing springs at the same time possible)
0.5 second (like hail) gets changed to 1 second ticks.
a lot of skills get changed to a lesser "frequency" (f.e. vigor).
Stuff/skills get standardized. (more or less fixed values for DOTs, HOTs, AoE, ...)

Is it just me ? Are they trying to reduce the "load" on servers? Is this the "performance" improvement we got told about ?
If yes, I am a little bit dissapointed. That would be far from "rewriting the code".

Whats your opinion on this ? It looks like nerfmire, we can call it nerfbreaker... BUT is this really everything ?
Please let's discuss about this in a proper manner.
This one hopes that it's just because of the tin foil hat for khajiits... but Lisu is feeling very irritated.

P.S. WW is dead. (hey that's like my new signature )

Eh? What's that? *lifts tin foil hoodie*

Sharee

On the other hand, they uncapped some AOE skills, like detonation.

Oh wait, that helps too. Dead bodies don't lag

themaddaedra

The performance upgrade they were talking about is U24. They clearly said that on last ESO live.

But i assume these stuff could help get load down just a lil bit yeah.

Nyladreas

Lisutaris wrote: »

WoppaBoem wrote: »

I had the same feeling when reading it. I expect this patch to be a performance upgrade due to nerfs lol

Do you think they thought about the maelstrom arena bow ? 0,5s -> 1,0s frequency change makes it .... ... 50% nerf on maelstrom bow i would say .

Likely intended since they're trying to nerf AoE damage altogether.

redlink1979

Nerfmire 2.0.

anitajoneb17_ESO

That's what I thought when I read the patch notes : performance...

Lisutaris

themaddaedra wrote: »

The performance upgrade they were talking about is U24. They clearly said that on last ESO live.

But i assume these stuff could help get load down just a lil bit yeah.

Yeah, I know.
But they also said they fixed grp finder and other stuff ... long ago
Don't take me wrong, i like and love this game. But I don't trust everything I'm getting told. If I can see, feel it for myself, then I am going to believe it ,100%.

darkblue5

Lisutaris wrote: »

WoppaBoem wrote: »

I had the same feeling when reading it. I expect this patch to be a performance upgrade due to nerfs lol

Do you think they thought about the maelstrom arena bow ? 0,5s -> 1,0s frequency change makes it .... ... 50% nerf on maelstrom bow i would say .

They almost double the damage per tick. So basically no nerf. In the potes.

Lisutaris

darkblue5 wrote: »

Lisutaris wrote: »

WoppaBoem wrote: »

I had the same feeling when reading it. I expect this patch to be a performance upgrade due to nerfs lol

Do you think they thought about the maelstrom arena bow ? 0,5s -> 1,0s frequency change makes it .... ... 50% nerf on maelstrom bow i would say .

They almost double the damage per tick. So basically no nerf. In the potes.

Maybe dmg wise of the endless hail itself.
If you look at the bigger picture -> less enchantment uptime, because lesser procc-chance. VMA bow gets better "per tick" -> therefore nerf for the bow.

rfennell_ESO

Lisutaris wrote: »

Less pets (not only because of nerfs, but also like proccs from undaunted webs. 1 spider instead of 2 ? why ?)
Less stuff happening (only 1 orb, only 1 healing springs at the same time possible)
0.5 second (like hail) gets changed to 1 second ticks.
a lot of skills get changed to a lesser "frequency" (f.e. vigor).
Stuff/skills get standardized. (more or less fixed values for DOTs, HOTs, AoE, ...)

Is it just me ? Are they trying to reduce the "load" on servers? Is this the "performance" improvement we got told about ?
If yes, I am a little bit dissapointed. That would be far from "rewriting the code".

Whats your opinion on this ? It looks like nerfmire, we can call it nerfbreaker... BUT is this really everything ?
Please let's discuss about this in a proper manner.
This one hopes that it's just because of the tin foil hat for khajiits... but Lisu is feeling very irritated.

P.S. WW is dead. (hey that's like my new signature )

vigor not only being less frequent but not aoe anymore will probably make cyrodiil less laggy all on it's own.

Rehdaun

Lisutaris wrote: »

Less pets (not only because of nerfs, but also like proccs from undaunted webs. 1 spider instead of 2 ? why ?)
Less stuff happening (only 1 orb, only 1 healing springs at the same time possible)
0.5 second (like hail) gets changed to 1 second ticks.
a lot of skills get changed to a lesser "frequency" (f.e. vigor).
Stuff/skills get standardized. (more or less fixed values for DOTs, HOTs, AoE, ...)

Is it just me ? Are they trying to reduce the "load" on servers? Is this the "performance" improvement we got told about ?
If yes, I am a little bit dissapointed. That would be far from "rewriting the code".

Whats your opinion on this ? It looks like nerfmire, we can call it nerfbreaker... BUT is this really everything ?
Please let's discuss about this in a proper manner.
This one hopes that it's just because of the tin foil hat for khajiits... but Lisu is feeling very irritated.

P.S. WW is dead. (hey that's like my new signature )

Missed one. Less people on the servers

Mayrael

Sharee wrote: »

On the other hand, they uncapped some AOE skills, like detonation.

Oh wait, that helps too. Dead bodies don't lag

Can't wait to see those fat ticks and bomblades again in the game

Bealeb319

Performance improvements will come from this patch because a large chunk of players are going to quit which will greatly reduce serverload?

scorpius2k1

I sure hope band aiding by nerf and players leaving aren't the "solution" to all the performance problems because we will be back at this point again and again. It's temporary at best. I sure hope those actual performance fixes they mentioned on ZoS' last live stream are really going to happen. I'm on the fence being fairly apprehensive at this point but also hopeful I guess. 50/50.

It sure would be nice if the upcoming bug and performance fixes were as long a list as the latest 30+ pages of patch notes regarding everything else...

Jaimeh

Lisutaris wrote: »

Is it just me ? Are they trying to reduce the "load" on servers? Is this the "performance" improvement we got told about ?
If yes, I am a little bit dissapointed. That would be far from "rewriting the code".

Maybe they haven't found another way to go about improving performance, and limiting the events happening in terms of combat is their last resort, but it's not a great solution at least where gameplay is concerned.

Alienoutlaw

i suspect these changes are a prelude to a reworking of the CP system, a 0.5 sec reduction here and there will not have that much impact on server performance

karekiz

What is this exactly based on/for OP?

Cyrodill? No the problem with Cyrodill is literally Cyrodill.

Trials? Maybe, but I would wager there are bigger factors there such as stack based combat.

Lisutaris

scorpius2k1 wrote: »

I sure hope band aiding by nerf and players leaving aren't the "solution" to all the performance problems because we will be back at this point again and again. It's temporary at best. I sure hope those actual performance fixes they mentioned on ZoS' last live stream are really going to happen. I'm on the fence being fairly apprehensive at this point but also hopeful I guess. 50/50.

It sure would be nice if the upcoming bug and performance fixes were as long a list as the latest 30+ pages of patch notes regarding everything else...

exactly my thoughts.