Improving my rotation: Was this a mistake?

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Hi.

I'm running a pretty standard Stamblade, and it just occurred to me: Flawless Dawnbreaker.

I shouldn't actually be using this ult', should I? Rather just have it slotted for the bonus damage yeah?

MrBrownstone

I use it in trash fights. But against a boss, your main ult is Incap Strike.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

MrBumblefoot wrote: »

I use it in trash fights. But against a boss, your main ult is Incap Strike.

I've come to the same conclusion. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for boss fights, the reason for this is because it's much cheaper to cast?

norrisnick

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

MrBumblefoot wrote: »

I use it in trash fights. But against a boss, your main ult is Incap Strike.

I've come to the same conclusion. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for boss fights, the reason for this is because it's much cheaper to cast?

That and it boosts your overall damage against the boss for however many seconds.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

norrisnick wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

MrBumblefoot wrote: »

I use it in trash fights. But against a boss, your main ult is Incap Strike.

I've come to the same conclusion. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for boss fights, the reason for this is because it's much cheaper to cast?

That and it boosts your overall damage against the boss for however many seconds.

I need to have another read up on the skill then! Thanks.

Xogath

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

norrisnick wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

MrBumblefoot wrote: »

I use it in trash fights. But against a boss, your main ult is Incap Strike.

I've come to the same conclusion. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for boss fights, the reason for this is because it's much cheaper to cast?

That and it boosts your overall damage against the boss for however many seconds.

I need to have another read up on the skill then! Thanks.

This is correct, yes.

Flawless Dawnbreaker is slotted on the front bar (typically Dual Wield) to boost your Weapon Damage by 8% and help your overall damage, since most of your time is spent on this bar. If the boss/NPC in question is Daedric, Undead(?), or Werewolf, I believe it's also worth it to use there because of the Fighter's Guild passive that increases its damage against those targets by.. 20%? if I remember correctly.

However, do keep in mind the sweeping changes about to take place in this game in the next month or two. Dawnbreaker is getting a cast time, losing its weapon damage bonus (so the 8% you get for slotting it now will go down to.. 3%? thanks to the FG passive alone), and will likely fall in to never being slotted on the front bar again.

For Stamblades, this will mean main barring Incapacitating Strike, or possibly Rend.

Basically, what I'm saying is.. if you start trying to master the class right now (which is a good thing to do, don't get me wrong), everything you learn is likely about to change when U23 goes live.

Conduit0

Xogath wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

norrisnick wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

MrBumblefoot wrote: »

I use it in trash fights. But against a boss, your main ult is Incap Strike.

I've come to the same conclusion. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for boss fights, the reason for this is because it's much cheaper to cast?

That and it boosts your overall damage against the boss for however many seconds.

I need to have another read up on the skill then! Thanks.

This is correct, yes.

Flawless Dawnbreaker is slotted on the front bar (typically Dual Wield) to boost your Weapon Damage by 8% and help your overall damage, since most of your time is spent on this bar. If the boss/NPC in question is Daedric, Undead(?), or Werewolf, I believe it's also worth it to use there because of the Fighter's Guild passive that increases its damage against those targets by.. 20%? if I remember correctly.

However, do keep in mind the sweeping changes about to take place in this game in the next month or two. Dawnbreaker is getting a cast time, losing its weapon damage bonus (so the 8% you get for slotting it now will go down to.. 3%? thanks to the FG passive alone), and will likely fall in to never being slotted on the front bar again.

For Stamblades, this will mean main barring Incapacitating Strike, or possibly Rend.

Basically, what I'm saying is.. if you start trying to master the class right now (which is a good thing to do, don't get me wrong), everything you learn is likely about to change when U23 goes live.

DB might still be frontbarred for a lot of builds, there really isn't that many ultimates that passively buff stamina. Unless everyone just goes werewolf for the stam regen.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Xogath wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

norrisnick wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

MrBumblefoot wrote: »

I use it in trash fights. But against a boss, your main ult is Incap Strike.

I've come to the same conclusion. I'm going to hazard a guess and say that for boss fights, the reason for this is because it's much cheaper to cast?

That and it boosts your overall damage against the boss for however many seconds.

I need to have another read up on the skill then! Thanks.

This is correct, yes.

Flawless Dawnbreaker is slotted on the front bar (typically Dual Wield) to boost your Weapon Damage by 8% and help your overall damage, since most of your time is spent on this bar. If the boss/NPC in question is Daedric, Undead(?), or Werewolf, I believe it's also worth it to use there because of the Fighter's Guild passive that increases its damage against those targets by.. 20%? if I remember correctly.

However, do keep in mind the sweeping changes about to take place in this game in the next month or two. Dawnbreaker is getting a cast time, losing its weapon damage bonus (so the 8% you get for slotting it now will go down to.. 3%? thanks to the FG passive alone), and will likely fall in to never being slotted on the front bar again.

For Stamblades, this will mean main barring Incapacitating Strike, or possibly Rend.

Basically, what I'm saying is.. if you start trying to master the class right now (which is a good thing to do, don't get me wrong), everything you learn is likely about to change when U23 goes live.

That is a very good point. Just when I was getting the hang of things LOL. Such is life.

Well at least now I understand how basic stats work in the game. That's more than starting new.