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Lets Talk About Guilds

FixedBlade123
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I've had bad luck with guilds. I generally join the mega-sized guilds thinking that I'll garner greater wisdom and advice and have a greater chance of selling things in the giant guild stores and that there will be lots of activity. What I'm finding is that each guild is a bit different. You'll find some with a good guild store but they're rather inactive and never found in the guild's voice chat. Then you have some super active guilds but they don't have a store. The one thing I find most common, however, is that the big guilds are very "cliquish." They have a set of core members that are great buddies who aren't necessarily prone to accepting outsiders. That's cool. I understand. If I was a member of a core group that worked well together I probably wouldn't want to rock the boat either.

Anyway, I'm just a lowlife, fairly inexperienced gamer who wants to keep things simple. I don't want to be a drag on a mega-group where every player has a 150 characters; are experts at tanking, healing, and damage; and who can run trials all by themselves with one hand tied behind their back. I'm simply not that advanced in the game. I've been playing for a long time but I'm an old fart (58 years old) who only picked up gaming a few years ago and only did so as a hobby. I played single player games (Fallout series, Skyrim, etc.) for several years before ever getting into multi-player. I had no idea how to be a good member of a 4-person or 12-person team and I was horrible in dungeons and/or PvP (Cyrodiil). So I simply stuck to playing solo and learning what I could along the way. Well, here I am 5 years into the game and I'm finally bored with the solo stuff. So I've tried several guilds lately but their members are made up of ultra-experienced players and I'm nothing but a drag on "the team." I also found out that my character (a DK Stam build) is the "least desirable" character in a team atmosphere. And I fully understand that people are busy and don't want to have to stop everything they're doing and train an old dog like me.

So ... all that said, I'm looking for a group of regular people who don't mind having a DK Stam Imperial in their midst. Who like to run around and do stuff. And who don't mind taking on an old hippy like myself. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Are there any active but small or mid-sized guilds looking for an active (I sign in daily) dude who pays his dues and has lots to sell in the guild store? I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Thanks for listening! FixedBlade123
  • Easily_Lost
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    I play solo myself and loving it still, after 4-5 years.

    You may wat to post you machine ( PC, XBOX, or PS ) and what server you are on ( NA or EU ).
    Hope you find what you are looking for.
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  • FixedBlade123
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    I play solo myself and loving it still, after 4-5 years.

    You may wat to post you machine ( PC, XBOX, or PS ) and what server you are on ( NA or EU ).
    Hope you find what you are looking for.

    Good point. Xbox One X, NA. If you ever need help with a boss or dungeon, look me up. I go by FixedBlade123 and/or Klubb online.
  • mobicera
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    You may want to look into getting multiple guilds, I personally have 3. 1 for trading and 2 for socializing and group content.
    The guilds I use for socializing and group content are small to midsize but we run together and have fun which is most important. In the 2 guilds I can set up groups for dailies at a whim pretty easily and I run trials every day but Friday, both normal to help out with gear farms and vets both prog and plunder runs. The trials are rostered on discord but there are often people trying to fill out trials at other times.
    My best advice to you is to try to find a smaller to medium sized guild to run content with and just start joining people who are looking for others and perhaps roster up for some trials to get to know people. For group content bigger doesn't mean better. For trading yeah a bigger guild with a decent trade location is better but don't expect much in the way of grouping or socializing.

    For the Stam dk comment it's a %100 viable char in most content( people probably won't want it in VCR+3 or vas+2 but that is more the fault of the trial)
    If people in your guild won't play with you because you are a Stam dk I recommend finding a new guild asap. Stam dks are able to hit very hard and are perfectly viable for 99% of all content.

    Edit as you posted your platform and server already.
    Edited by mobicera on July 5, 2019 12:34PM
  • FixedBlade123
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    mobicera wrote: »
    You may want to look into getting multiple guilds, I personally have 3. 1 for trading and 2 for socializing and group content.
    The guilds I use for socializing and group content are small to midsize but we run together and have fun which is most important. In the 2 guilds I can set up groups for dailies at a whim pretty easily and I run trials every day but Friday, both normal to help out with gear farms and vets both prog and plunder runs. The trials are rostered on discord but there are often people trying to fill out trials at other times.
    My best advice to you is to try to find a smaller to medium sized guild to run content with and just start joining people who are looking for others and perhaps roster up for some trials to get to know people. For group content bigger doesn't mean better. For trading yeah a bigger guild with a decent trade location is better but don't expect much in the way of grouping or socializing.

    For the Stam dk comment it's a %100 viable char in most content( people probably won't want it in VCR+3 or vas+2 but that is more the fault of the trial)
    If people in your guild won't play with you because you are a Stam dk I recommend finding a new guild asap. Stam dks are able to hit very hard and are perfectly viable for 99% of all content.

    Edit as you posted your platform and server already.

    Thanks for the insightful comments. It's not that my current guild won't allow me to join the group ... its that they'll all be talking and laughing but when I try to jump in, everyone goes silent and maybe one person will sorta chuckle at my joke. Then after an uncomfortable minute, they'll all go back to the party they were having before I interrupted. Hahaha. Not sure if anyone knows what I mean but it feels like I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time. Anyway ... they have every right to be friends and to enjoy each other's company and I don't really have a right to force them to accept me as the cool, average, dude that I am. I actually have a good sense of humor but I have to feel comfortable with folks before it comes out.

    My character is hard hitting and I enjoy playing just that single character. But I am thinking about building a new character. Maybe a Magic build.
  • yodased
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    Having been a gm of a dungeon guild for almost 6 years now I 100% understand what you are going through. I see this so often its actually a bit predictable now.

    It's the 'cool kid' middle school lunch table scenario. Where it's difficult to just walk up to the perceived cool kids, sit down with your capri sun and say 'sup'.

    The thing is I have found that in this game, the players are very accepting and cool people. I don't play on xbox, but I do play on ps4 and on pc and both of those communities are awesome.

    You don't have to feel intimidated to share your opinions or just talk to people, if you are polarizing to the group you are going to know it and can find a different group. Not everyone is going to get along like gangbusters in a group of 500 people. You are going to get cliques that form, but the overarching guild will unite you guys.

    Tl;DR sounds like you are a bit in your head and thinking too much about the social aspects of it. If you feel like your are interrupting a party and not joining it, maybe you should have a conversation with the leader of that party to understand why, but really I think just step out of your head a bit and try to just integrate.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Nestor
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    Trading Guilds are for Buying and Selling stuff. Don't expect too much social structure there. Some trade guilds are very social, but most are not, simply due to churn, either self inflicted or performance.

    I have found no matter what guild you join for social reasons is put yourself out there. Are there cliques in some guilds, sure, but nothing stopping you from cultivating friends from the guild. Then you can be as clicky as you want, or not.
    Edited by Nestor on July 5, 2019 5:53PM
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  • FixedBlade123
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    Thanks yodased and Nestor for your input. I probably am thinking too much. As a recovered alcoholic, I tend to do that sometimes.
  • RavenSworn
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    Ah, Xbox na. Can't plug my guild then lol. But if you ever come to pc na, look us up ;)
    Ingame: RavenSworn, Pc / NA.


    Of Wolf and Raven
    Solo / Casual guild for beginners and new players wanting to join the game. Pst me for invite!
  • RebornV3x
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    I've been in a lot of bad guilds in ESO and I know first hand what you have experienced from game release to Summerset I had a hard time even staying in 5 guilds.
    Xbox One - NA GT: RebornV3x
    I also play on PC from time to time but I just wanna be left alone on there so sorry.
  • ErMurazor
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    I been in numerous guilds until i found the one for me. Just keep joining until you find yours.
  • FixedBlade123
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    RebornV3x wrote: »
    I've been in a lot of bad guilds in ESO and I know first hand what you have experienced from game release to Summerset I had a hard time even staying in 5 guilds.

    My current "active" guild is actually made up of some pretty cool people. At least they seem cool when I listen to them interact. They like to laugh and have fun. I just think that they've gotten so used to each other that they're not at a point where they really want to take on any more people. I guess the "guild finder" function has brought a huge influx of people to their guild so it might just be overwhelming them. Anyway ... after trying to jump into several conversations and feeling like I'm the odd-man-out ... I think it may be time to do them a favor and try something else.
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