Is Imperial City better, or worse since the update?

Greg11jkalfa

I actually enjoy beating up daedra for Tel Var, but the constant gankers looming since the update has made me reconsider playing anything other than a nightblade when I go there. I think it's gotten far worse now that it's easier to access, but then again, I'm trash at the game so what do I know. What do you think?

Michae

Same as it was

I'd say it's samey. Tel Var grind is still exhausting, you still can get ganked pretty easily. Little less people switching characters to get to kill you, easier acces avoiding additional loading screens and a horse ride, but less options for campaign.

Derra

Same as it was

Sadly it didn´t change all that much.

Tharonil

Same as it was

For pve player it's the same torture, to enjoy the story. I thought they would change something.

BNOC

Same as it was

They've added a tel var value to Molag Bal for PvE players and there is a few people scattered round but not much going on there still.

Needs to be an incentive to be there other than a basic amount of telvar. I'd up the telvar gain in the sewers, based on the doors and districts above - Or add alternative capture points beneath that give bonuses in the tunnels.

The door in the sewer base needs to act as a wayshrine or let us tele out of the base to wherever we want to go. If I want to leave, I have to go through multiple load screens to get where I should have got in one.

Vermethys

Better

I'm enjoying it now. Though, because of the gankers and frequent presence of groups of two or three players, I only play the CP campaign... Otherwise, I doubt It'd be fun.

barney2525

Better or worse than what?

It's better than being punched in the ... nether regions

It's worse than having a dinner of pizza and wings

ZeroXFF

If you want it to be better, remove the tel var loss on PvP death, and make a PvP kill award a statistic amount of stones (diminishing if you're killing the same person repeatedly over a short period of time).

And if you want to make it truly great, create a new PvE campaign. That way both PvPers and PvEers can both play the way they want to.

olsborg

Worse

the entire IC needs an overhaul, the most glaring mechanic that breaks the fun there imo, is how fast some ppl can respawn if you kill them and their faction holds that district.

oxygen_thief

Better

of course its better now because there is no more queue and run through cyro

kylewwefan

Better

Actually, it seems mostly the same, but it’s much better getting there now. They could tune the mobs down a little bit; that would be great

Blackbird_V

Same as it was

Still at times has boosters and flag flippers, but nothing much has changed. Other than more resources needed for sewer bosses.

Kr3do

Same as it was

Still a ghost town

Kuramas9tails

Worse

I am going to be 100% honest and that my response as 100% bias because....

I liked dead IC because then I could easily grind for the stones to get alchemy mats to make myself and my boyfriend potions. Now I can't farm as easily and it's easier to just farm overland now so I don't go in IC anymore for TelVar, only to fight players. TelVar is only a bonus now but it's just easier for small scale PVP when my bf and I don't want to deal with zergs in Cyrodiil.

So it's better for the PVPers who wanted more action in IC.
It's worse for the farmers like myself.

Suddwrath

Better

The fact that it is much easier to get there in itself is a huge improvement. You no longer have to queue into Cyrodiil and then run to the center of the map just to get access IC.

Emma_Overload

Better

It's better, but we need more and better rewards in the Tel Var store.

BNOC

Same as it was

ZeroXFF wrote: »

If you want it to be better, remove the tel var loss on PvP death, and make a PvP kill award a statistic amount of stones (diminishing if you're killing the same person repeatedly over a short period of time).

And if you want to make it truly great, create a new PvE campaign. That way both PvPers and PvEers can both play the way they want to.

This is never a good idea.

Back in the day, if you had 5k stones on you, you were shitting your pants and because it took a strong and efficient solo player an ~hour to farm 10k stones that were worth 120k gold, losing 80% of it was a huge deal.

Now you can solo farm >150k an hour and can even do >50k P/H just killing adds in an owned district and if you die you lose 50%.

As it stands right now, unless you're someone who runs around with 300k on you, you don't really lose much for a death, even 100k stones you only lose 50k, that's 3 bosses solo, you're talking 15 minutes.

If anything, the TV loss should be back at 80% as 99.9% of the time, it's quicker to farm the bosses yourself than it is to find people and make the same amount in 50% splits.

olsborg wrote: »

the entire IC needs an overhaul, the most glaring mechanic that breaks the fun there imo, is how fast some ppl can respawn if you kill them and their faction holds that district.

That is a bit of an issue, nobody wants to pack someone up and have them run back in 14s with full resources. Especially when the opposing group size is bigger than yours.

They should just add a 30s timer on death until you can respawn and force said respawn at the base (If you've taken or dealt player damage) - That gives people at least a minute and a half without the players they've packed up already.

Helgi_Skotina

Better

It is not the gankfest like earlier, at launch, but i love the chance to get my hands on these carebears who farm their stones. And especially these crying farmers with their hate-speeches.

generalmyrick

Worse

its alright, i spend less time there, but at least more fights are occurring.

so worse for me, but i imagine its better for more people which makes it "better."

ATomiX96

Same as it was

still dead af

generalmyrick

Worse

ATomiX96 wrote: »

still dead af

imperial city is the content with the most potential in my opinion...i wish someone would find a way to exploit that to get more players there!

Cathexis

Better

generalmyrick wrote: »

ATomiX96 wrote: »

still dead af

imperial city is the content with the most potential in my opinion...i wish someone would find a way to exploit that to get more players there!

It's just not really great pvp there anymore without heavy coordination.

But it is better for one simple reason - the Cyrodiil population is now separate. In that regard the change was fundamentally necessary.

Greg11jkalfa

Worse

Probably an unpopular opinion here, but I think giving each faction the two, or at least one district(s) that connect(s) closest to their base would be a good idea. It's quite annoying when one faction is completely stomping the others because of a huge group. I still think losing Tel Var on death is a good idea, and that any player should be able to enter any district. But giving each faction at least one permanent district would give players a guaranteed place to farm faster, while still keeping the risk of enemy players killing taking a cut. With the Imperial City now being separate, I just think it's pointless to force it into the same dynamic as Cyrodiil.

Kel

Other:
I'm really glad its populated, but it's just the same unkillable zerg ball groups that roll you over with AoE's and have a minimum of six healers in the group.
So, while it's good to see other players there, it's almost impossible for solo/small scale players.

Be careful what you ask for, I guess.

TBois

Better

I've had a blast pvping in there during primetime after the update. There is little to no lag, and I've run into solos, small man groups, and even some large raids. Finally back to a good mix of pve and pvp!

TBois

Better

Kel wrote: »

Other:
I'm really glad its populated, but it's just the same unkillable zerg ball groups that roll you over with AoE's and have a minimum of six healers in the group.
So, while it's good to see other players there, it's almost impossible for solo/small scale players.

Be careful what you ask for, I guess.

https://youtu.be/WitX5TpIPG8

The first clip in the video is of a 5 man having some fun. I haven't seen many unkillable raids, especially with so many angry babies (necro colosus) giving 25% more damage running around.

Kel

TBois wrote: »

Kel wrote: »

Other:
I'm really glad its populated, but it's just the same unkillable zerg ball groups that roll you over with AoE's and have a minimum of six healers in the group.
So, while it's good to see other players there, it's almost impossible for solo/small scale players.

Be careful what you ask for, I guess.

https://youtu.be/WitX5TpIPG8

The first clip in the video is of a 5 man having some fun. I haven't seen many unkillable raids, especially with so many angry babies (necro colosus) giving 25% more damage running around.

Nice, but on ps4, IC is zergy as Cyrodiil.
Nice clips, btw!

TBois

Better

Kel wrote: »

TBois wrote: »

Kel wrote: »

Other:
I'm really glad its populated, but it's just the same unkillable zerg ball groups that roll you over with AoE's and have a minimum of six healers in the group.
So, while it's good to see other players there, it's almost impossible for solo/small scale players.

Be careful what you ask for, I guess.

https://youtu.be/WitX5TpIPG8

The first clip in the video is of a 5 man having some fun. I haven't seen many unkillable raids, especially with so many angry babies (necro colosus) giving 25% more damage running around.

Nice, but on ps4, IC is zergy as Cyrodiil.
Nice clips, btw!

Ah I see, that makes sense. I imagine yall get lag in IC too huh? And thanks! I feel wegot carried by the baby though lol.

Jeremy

Same as it was

Greg11jkalfa wrote: »

I actually enjoy beating up daedra for Tel Var, but the constant gankers looming since the update has made me reconsider playing anything other than a nightblade when I go there. I think it's gotten far worse now that it's easier to access, but then again, I'm trash at the game so what do I know. What do you think?

Yeah I don't blame you. I wouldn't go in there as anything other than a Night Blade either. You're just gank bait or zerg food if you do.

As to your last point - I haven't noticed it changing much really. Seems about the same as always to me.