Major Force Crit damage not appearing on Trial dummy CMX parses

Elwendryll

Hello,

So, I've been parsing a lot lately, and I can't explain something. When I do a parse on the trial dummy, I get a max 110% crit damage modifier, this is also the value that I get in overland or on regular dummies (After waiting for the trial buffs to wear off). Now, that may seem quite a lot of investment in a single stat, but my build is just like that. Khajiit, Shadow Mundus (7 legendary divine), 61 points in precise strikes, minor force.
So 50+10+19+21+10=110

During actual trials on the other hand, with aggressive warhorn and major force, my crit damage multiplier shows 125%, as it should.

Now, on trial dummy parses, Aggressive Warhorn and Major Force both show, but my multiplier is 110%. Can someone explain it? Is this some kind of CMX UI error specific to the Iron Atronach? Am I the only one with that? Now I can provide screenshots if needed, but my point is that on my game, CMX does not show the additional critical damage of Major Force despite showing the buff, specifically and consistently on the Iron Atronach Dummy.

BxBourne

Elwendryll wrote: »

Hello,

So, I've been parsing a lot lately, and I can't explain something. When I do a parse on the trial dummy, I get a max 110% crit damage modifier, this is also the value that I get in overland or on regular dummies (After waiting for the trial buffs to wear off). Now, that may seem quite a lot of investment in a single stat, but my build is just like that. Khajiit, Shadow Mundus (7 legendary divine), 61 points in precise strikes, minor force.
So 50+10+19+21+10=110

During actual trials on the other hand, with aggressive warhorn and major force, my crit damage multiplier shows 125%, as it should.

Now, on trial dummy parses, Aggressive Warhorn and Major Force both show, but my multiplier is 110%. Can someone explain it? Is this some kind of CMX UI error specific to the Iron Atronach? Am I the only one with that? Now I can provide screenshots if needed, but my point is that on my game, CMX does not show the additional critical damage of Major Force despite showing the buff, specifically and consistently on the Iron Atronach Dummy.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5982306#Comment_5982306 Looks like your not the only one that mentioned this same issue.

zvavi

Trial dummy is still not perfect by far (not only addon related issues) it's whole point is to standardize all classes and builds while parsing, but still it doesn't go off balance on cd, which affects heavy attack builds testing and the proc whip of mag dk testing

ShadowKyuubi

Elwendryll wrote: »

Hello,

So, I've been parsing a lot lately, and I can't explain something. When I do a parse on the trial dummy, I get a max 110% crit damage modifier, this is also the value that I get in overland or on regular dummies (After waiting for the trial buffs to wear off). Now, that may seem quite a lot of investment in a single stat, but my build is just like that. Khajiit, Shadow Mundus (7 legendary divine), 61 points in precise strikes, minor force.
So 50+10+19+21+10=110

During actual trials on the other hand, with aggressive warhorn and major force, my crit damage multiplier shows 125%, as it should.

Now, on trial dummy parses, Aggressive Warhorn and Major Force both show, but my multiplier is 110%. Can someone explain it? Is this some kind of CMX UI error specific to the Iron Atronach? Am I the only one with that? Now I can provide screenshots if needed, but my point is that on my game, CMX does not show the additional critical damage of Major Force despite showing the buff, specifically and consistently on the Iron Atronach Dummy.

@Elwendryll
So this is a fairly well known thing for the people who parse all the time. It only happens if you do consecutive parses on the iron atronach. You need to wait for the buffs from the previous atronach parse to wear off. So, just make sure to take two minutes between each parse while the buffs from the previous parse fall off. If that doesn't work, try reloaduing ui. I used to have this problem as well. SOmething about the aggressive warhorn doesn't refresh properly and major force isn't properly applied until you wait for it to fall off.

ecru

ShadowKyuubi wrote: »

Elwendryll wrote: »

Hello,

So, I've been parsing a lot lately, and I can't explain something. When I do a parse on the trial dummy, I get a max 110% crit damage modifier, this is also the value that I get in overland or on regular dummies (After waiting for the trial buffs to wear off). Now, that may seem quite a lot of investment in a single stat, but my build is just like that. Khajiit, Shadow Mundus (7 legendary divine), 61 points in precise strikes, minor force.
So 50+10+19+21+10=110

During actual trials on the other hand, with aggressive warhorn and major force, my crit damage multiplier shows 125%, as it should.

Now, on trial dummy parses, Aggressive Warhorn and Major Force both show, but my multiplier is 110%. Can someone explain it? Is this some kind of CMX UI error specific to the Iron Atronach? Am I the only one with that? Now I can provide screenshots if needed, but my point is that on my game, CMX does not show the additional critical damage of Major Force despite showing the buff, specifically and consistently on the Iron Atronach Dummy.

@Elwendryll
So this is a fairly well known thing for the people who parse all the time. It only happens if you do consecutive parses on the iron atronach. You need to wait for the buffs from the previous atronach parse to wear off. So, just make sure to take two minutes between each parse while the buffs from the previous parse fall off. If that doesn't work, try reloaduing ui. I used to have this problem as well. SOmething about the aggressive warhorn doesn't refresh properly and major force isn't properly applied until you wait for it to fall off.

I tested it and even though it doesn't show up properly in CMX , you're still getting the benefit of the major force buff, so there's no reason to let the buffs fall off.

ShadowKyuubi

ecru wrote: »

ShadowKyuubi wrote: »

Elwendryll wrote: »

Hello,

So, I've been parsing a lot lately, and I can't explain something. When I do a parse on the trial dummy, I get a max 110% crit damage modifier, this is also the value that I get in overland or on regular dummies (After waiting for the trial buffs to wear off). Now, that may seem quite a lot of investment in a single stat, but my build is just like that. Khajiit, Shadow Mundus (7 legendary divine), 61 points in precise strikes, minor force.
So 50+10+19+21+10=110

During actual trials on the other hand, with aggressive warhorn and major force, my crit damage multiplier shows 125%, as it should.

Now, on trial dummy parses, Aggressive Warhorn and Major Force both show, but my multiplier is 110%. Can someone explain it? Is this some kind of CMX UI error specific to the Iron Atronach? Am I the only one with that? Now I can provide screenshots if needed, but my point is that on my game, CMX does not show the additional critical damage of Major Force despite showing the buff, specifically and consistently on the Iron Atronach Dummy.

@Elwendryll
So this is a fairly well known thing for the people who parse all the time. It only happens if you do consecutive parses on the iron atronach. You need to wait for the buffs from the previous atronach parse to wear off. So, just make sure to take two minutes between each parse while the buffs from the previous parse fall off. If that doesn't work, try reloaduing ui. I used to have this problem as well. SOmething about the aggressive warhorn doesn't refresh properly and major force isn't properly applied until you wait for it to fall off.

I tested it and even though it doesn't show up properly in CMX , you're still getting the benefit of the major force buff, so there's no reason to let the buffs fall off.

Yeah, guess I wasn't clear. This is an addon effect from cmx and not actually a game problem. For the sake of reporting parses, you should let the previous buffs fall off.

ecru

ShadowKyuubi wrote: »

ecru wrote: »

ShadowKyuubi wrote: »

Elwendryll wrote: »

Hello,

So, I've been parsing a lot lately, and I can't explain something. When I do a parse on the trial dummy, I get a max 110% crit damage modifier, this is also the value that I get in overland or on regular dummies (After waiting for the trial buffs to wear off). Now, that may seem quite a lot of investment in a single stat, but my build is just like that. Khajiit, Shadow Mundus (7 legendary divine), 61 points in precise strikes, minor force.
So 50+10+19+21+10=110

During actual trials on the other hand, with aggressive warhorn and major force, my crit damage multiplier shows 125%, as it should.

Now, on trial dummy parses, Aggressive Warhorn and Major Force both show, but my multiplier is 110%. Can someone explain it? Is this some kind of CMX UI error specific to the Iron Atronach? Am I the only one with that? Now I can provide screenshots if needed, but my point is that on my game, CMX does not show the additional critical damage of Major Force despite showing the buff, specifically and consistently on the Iron Atronach Dummy.

@Elwendryll
So this is a fairly well known thing for the people who parse all the time. It only happens if you do consecutive parses on the iron atronach. You need to wait for the buffs from the previous atronach parse to wear off. So, just make sure to take two minutes between each parse while the buffs from the previous parse fall off. If that doesn't work, try reloaduing ui. I used to have this problem as well. SOmething about the aggressive warhorn doesn't refresh properly and major force isn't properly applied until you wait for it to fall off.

I tested it and even though it doesn't show up properly in CMX , you're still getting the benefit of the major force buff, so there's no reason to let the buffs fall off.

Yeah, guess I wasn't clear. This is an addon effect from cmx and not actually a game problem. For the sake of reporting parses, you should let the previous buffs fall off.

yeah i dunno, seems like a waste of time waiting that long in between parses, having buffs at the start of your parse will effect one or two gcds out of about 240, which probably amounts to about a 0.05% difference.

OG_Kaveman

if you think it is a bug is combat metrix, why not just ask the devolper of that add on directly? here- https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392871/combat-metrics-bug-reports, i am sure that @Solinur would love to hear it.

Solinur

Hey, thanks for tagging me.

Yes, there is a bug when the buff is present from the beginning to the end of the fight, where the major force contribution get ignored. If you get it during the fight (usually when you first pick up the trial dummy buff by synergizing) it should show.

Unfortunately I haven't gotten around to fix that. I have some time during the next days, so I'll look into it.