Do you think there are too many complaints in this forum?

  • zvavi
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    Ender1310 wrote: »
    As far as I know ESO is still sitting on top of this Genre as far as player base. People are obviously playing if they are coming back day after day and complaining. All the complaining seems counter intuitive. Like if this game is so bad with sooo many issues why are you playing? Because it's the best thing out? Well that should tell you something. Should tell you they are doing the best they can. [removed comment] I really mean no disrespect.

    1. My game time in eso is lower now. I didn't stop entirely, but might.
    2. I stopped subbing. I got two more months and elsweyr when they promised preformance fixes, little did i know we are not going to get what we expected.
    3. I am playing because i am playing with friends.
    4. Doing the best they can, maybe, but if you notice many people are frustrated at the lack of communication.(and if you are going to bring up the ask us anything surprise hour or two, no, i didn't get an answer about upgrading the server's bandwidth).
    5. I fell in love with the game and it's community. That's why i am still playing.
    6. Yep, people are coming back, and new people are passing by. They don't pvp much, or go where the bugs matter more, those who do are usually long term players.

    Also to the original post, aren't forums for complaining?
  • Jdray
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    Can there just be a troubleshooting thread....
  • randomkeyhits
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    While the dev team don't own and manage the issues then there are not enough complaints threads.

    Once they do then that is the only thread for that complaint that is needed.

    So long as they do own it and do manage it and keep doing so.
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  • Turelus
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    While the dev team don't own and manage the issues then there are not enough complaints threads.

    Once they do then that is the only thread for that complaint that is needed.

    So long as they do own it and do manage it and keep doing so.
    It would be nice if when an issue arises they opened a thread in the bugs forum for that issue and tried to focus the feedback there.
    From my understanding the bug logging team read that forum, but I doubt they read General Discussion as often to try and find information.
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  • Nimrhys
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    As is usually the issue, people enjoying the game are playing it, not going on the forums. I had this with WoW until BfA and started complaining myself. I’m just here now because I got into forum reading. Good hobby for insomnia.
  • GimpyPorcupine
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    I have a complaint about the lack of "Other, please explain" as a poll choice.

    My explanation is:

    This poll sucks. No, I won't explain further.

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  • randomkeyhits
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    Turelus wrote: »
    While the dev team don't own and manage the issues then there are not enough complaints threads.

    Once they do then that is the only thread for that complaint that is needed.

    So long as they do own it and do manage it and keep doing so.
    It would be nice if when an issue arises they opened a thread in the bugs forum for that issue and tried to focus the feedback there.
    From my understanding the bug logging team read that forum, but I doubt they read General Discussion as often to try and find information.

    Can't disagree but not everything is a bug.

    Shite performance isn't a bug though it may be a design limitation. Us knowing this may well be painful for ZoS to admit but if we know it would at least change the tone of the conversation, if we had conversations that is.
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  • theyancey
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    Way too many threads about a single issue. Those should be combined into a single thread.
  • Tommy_The_Gun
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    Most of them are about incredible lag and below acceptable server performance. If all those people are having such issues then I dont believe it is a fault of ISP (internet service provider). And ZOS TOS (terms of service) "patch" is just not even hilarious... idk know what that is. As some one who plays on EU idk what to even say any more.
  • Mathius_Mordred
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    I have a complaint about the lack of "Other, please explain" as a poll choice.

    My explanation is:

    This poll sucks. No, I won't explain further.

    Stop complaining LOL
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  • Morgul667
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    I honestly think performance complains are justified
  • MojaveHeld
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    All the performance related complaints are justified. However, there are always a lot that are just aimed at trying to shape the game into a very specific (and unwelcome for the majority of the playerbase) style that the poster favors (faction lock is ruining the game, nerf gameplay elements for immersion purposes, make vet trials easier because it makes casuals feel bad to not be able to complete them, and so on and so on). Everyone more or less just kind of tolerated or ignored those before, but now that the forum is filled with actual legitimate complaints about all the performance issues and ZOS's lackluster response to them, all the overly whiny and unjustified complaints seem much more noticeable and their presence can feel like its clogging the forums now, when added to all the legitimate complaints about performance.
  • Iskiab
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    I think there are way too many complaints.

    Complaints seem to be how some people learn. Some people challenge people or complain instead of asking for help, I find it really annoying myself.

    Then there are justified complaint threads too; like the Necro ultimate bashing and server performance.

    It might sound a little arrogant, like I’m an authority on what’s okay to complain about, but some complaints seem silly to me. Usually pvp complaints are a learning issue and after some replies they’re dropped because they get the info they need to succeed. It’s almost like they’re too proud to ask for help and instead blame the game.
    Edited by Iskiab on June 25, 2019 11:18PM
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  • AcadianPaladin
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    Would love to see less duplicate complaints on the same subject and containing most of it to a single section of the forum like Bug Reports. I'm here mostly to see what I can learn/refine regarding knowledge of the game and find that even skimming thread titles I'm wading through loads of complaint threads. I don't need to read two hundred threads about the state of PC EU servers or lag in Cyrodiil to 'get' that all may not be well in those areas.
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  • AWinterWolf
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    The complaints are valid, since new content is being churned out, with no fix for the content they've got, and a struggle to handle the content already out there. Servers are already struggling, majority of complaints I find, are people complaining about the lag, bugs that have been around forever, not getting fixed and since most of us pay a subscription, and all of us at one point or another, have bought the game, I say it is only fair to allow us to voice our opinions.
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  • grannas211
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    Lots of duplicate topics because they all most always get closed. That’s ZOS’ way of handling it. But hey new DLC coming soon. And another after that. Even if the base game is a horrid state.
  • Runefang
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    For an unplayable game a lot of people play it.
  • Lisutaris
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  • RPGplayer13579
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    Isn't that the whole point of having this forum? Complaints and Requests.
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  • Iskiab
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    Isn't that the whole point of having this forum? Complaints and Requests.

    Well, I came for help and advice. Started off knowing nothing and things like light attack weaving are counter intuitive so I didn’t pick up on it myself.

    I keep coming despite there being lots of people I disagree with and things said I don’t like, but every once in a while someone drops a gem that helps a ton or I’ll learn something about the game I didn’t know. Game is definitely complex with lots of exceptions, testing everything yourself would be a full time job.

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  • darthgummibear_ESO
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    Every gaming forum I've ever seen has been flooded with a laundry list of complaints, regardless of where the game is at quality-wise.
  • Maxx7410
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    Yes, there are too many complaints in this forum, although some may be justified.
    Too many salty people
  • Attackfrog
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    When I see "forums", I read it as "Complaint Department".
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  • MasterSpatula
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    For about the quadrillionth time, people complain about the game because they care about the game and want it to improve.

    When complaint threads cease, worry.
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  • Iluvrien
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    ZOS have a fantastic tool to reduce the number of duplicate threads created by people who feel they are not being heard...

    ... actually replying.
  • eso_lags
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    Turelus wrote: »
    I don't think there are too many complaints, so much as there are too many duplicate topics. There seems to be this false belief that more topics makes things happen.

    The complains right now are pretty justified with how bad performance has been and ZOS' lack of transparency over it earlier in the year.

    I think its more about the fact that zos is silent on major game breaking issues. Maybe some people feel more posts will get their attention. I mean there was a poll about them doing a performance update instead of another content update that got like a thousand votes for it, and still silence.

    Not a word about the issue. So I dont think it helps either way, more threads s vs less threads with more people in them posting about the issues. All im saying is this might be why. Like you say, lack of transparency.. And that is a huge problem with zos.
  • dem0n1k
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    All the complaint threads & whinges make this forum look very active. Active forum > Slow moving forum.
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  • Knootewoot
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    I think there are to many polls
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  • Jeremy
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    I love browsing game forums, you can learn a lot, tips and tricks, build advice, great videos, guild information etc. However, recently almost every other post is a complaint, mostly about performance in Cyrodiil and the game in general, but also complaints about skill lines, classes, Crown Store, broken abilities, patches, pricing of new content etc.

    Let's see what folks actually think, but, and this is important, if you disagree with someone, just tell them why you disagree and don't resort to personal insults, remember anger is the feeling that makes your mouth work faster than your mind.

    The performance complaints are warranted. The lag in Cyrodil can get you killed and few things in this game are more annoying then your abilities lagging when you really need them.
  • Rushinator
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    No, the number of complaints simply reflect the issues many people have with the game.
    I got a FANTASTIC IDEA! Lets ban complaints from the forums that will SURELY result in a better game, right?!

    How dare people report issues they are having & ask ZOS to fix it.

    You know what the healthy thing to do is? Not say a word & just quit the game to go play something else instead of actively trying to fix the problem...
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