Playing during Primetime...

JackDaniell

So jumped into PvP today during primetime.... never again.

This is the experiance that most people get in pvp. Lag and bugs are the real winners of the faction war. I just think its really sad that this game is "killing it" but the performance is so awful that most people never come back to cyro.

As a longtime player I absolutly love the combat in this game, but this performance does it such an injustice.
And the best part is that ZOS just doesnt care. I mean if they did it wouldent be this bad... they are "killing it" right? They could afford to hire more people or make some upgrades... but why invest so much time and money when you can reskin a mount and sell it for $30? And now after years of ignoring PvP performance the lag is starting to spill into overland, dubgeons trials and even MSA. To bad ZOS diddnt try to get a handle on this when it was only effecting a small portion of the audiance but hey, hindsight is 20/20. Its not like we diddnt try to say anything back then.

I guess in closing, I really want to see this game succeed and run properly. But im not confident ZOS will make the right decisions to go down that path.

I'd love to hear what you guys think about the state of ESO today, as it becomes one of the most popular MMOs in the world.

ArchMikem

I was gonna say something but I'm just too tired of counterarguing.

Corpier

They sure are "killing it."

Killing the game by letting performance continuously get worse and worse.

When abilities don't even work, when fps randomly drops by 40+ at times, and when server lag makes the game unplayable it should be a concern. The devs should be addressing it. Bug fixes and performance should not be put on lower priority than reskins of crownstore items and new dlc content.

We payed for content and the content we payed to play should be fixed before we are asked to buy anything more.

That said, we can vote with our wallets. We can unsub and stop feeding the crownstore. We can tell ZOS that we are not satisfied with how things are going, and that we will not be supporting them until they start fixing their game.

Xarc

The fact is performances in cyrodiil are only bad when all populations are on high/full.

jainiadral

I don't know about PvP, but questing is miserable during prime time. Zone instance population is far too high for a decent play experience, sadly. Even after midnight PDT these days on PC-NA, pretty much every zone feels much more populated than five or six months ago. Populations have grown a lot, so, yeah, ZOS is "killing it."

I'd kill for lower populated zone instances during the ungodly hours of the night. Or at later hours of prime time. At least you could quest without embracing your inner vampire

SirLeeMinion

Game performance has been at an all-time low for me since Elsewyr dropped. PvP, group dungeons, and even overland PvE have all suffered. NPCs sometimes rubber-band when ping is normal. For the first time ever, I sometimes get load screens when traveling in PvE. Ping spikes to 999+ more often than ever, and while I wait to wake up dead or DC, I run a speed test only to find my Internet is working just fine. This does all seem worse during prime time. PC NA, btw.

State of the game? A great game with lots to do, wonderful graphics, fantastic story telling, a super community, and fun combat that is noticeably struggling to keep up with a growing population.

Kel

Everyone misunderstands...
What Zos meant by "killing it" was how much money they rake in while hardly putting that money back into the infrastructure of the game.

So, yeah...they ARE killing it.



For thier investors...not for us.

Arca94

I've been PvPing in Cyrodiil for years now on PC EU and have mostly put up with the lag and performance issues which have plagued the game for so long now.

But since Elsweyr and the numerous 'incremental patches' which seem to only further destabilise the EU server, the game has passed the threshold of being 'unplayable' for me during prime time, which is sadly the only time I really get to play anymore.

It's really frustrating when everything you enjoy about the game is just plagued with lag and bugs, and with these issues now starting to spread to PvE content I suspect the new players this year has brought in won't be sticking around for too long.

Something needs to be done about these problems and SOON. Not next year or some other imaginary date, but within the next few months.

olsborg

Performance keeps getting worse by every update, not better. Its sad, because pvp is dying because of it.

DKsUnite

I dont bother to log in during US prime time. Even though I want to play.

Dunning_Kruger

That’s because the population of Cyrodiil is the same as a graduating class of a metro high school. Big sad.

jainiadral

DKsUnite wrote: »

I dont bother to log in during US prime time. Even though I want to play.

Seconding that.

Kawall

It's literally unplayable for me. Getting kicked from servers every 5 min. Constant ping spikes to 999+ and broken lfg tool. They need to fix this ASAP, not mid 2020.

Sylvermynx

jainiadral wrote: »

I don't know about PvP, but questing is miserable during prime time. Zone instance population is far too high for a decent play experience, sadly. Even after midnight PDT these days on PC-NA, pretty much every zone feels much more populated than five or six months ago. Populations have grown a lot, so, yeah, ZOS is "killing it."

I'd kill for lower populated zone instances during the ungodly hours of the night. Or at later hours of prime time. At least you could quest without embracing your inner vampire

I play from around 7 am to around 4pm MDT. Lots of people (LOTS more than a few months ago), but things work fine for questing..... Of course, I get that my time frame isn't "prime time". Which is why I don't DO "prime time". Then again, I'm retired. I get to play whenever I want to.... for however long I want to.

In exchange for that - I'm old. I suppose it balances.

Ri_Khan

Dude it's a *** mess. I get my pvp kicks elsewhere

jainiadral

Sylvermynx wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

I don't know about PvP, but questing is miserable during prime time. Zone instance population is far too high for a decent play experience, sadly. Even after midnight PDT these days on PC-NA, pretty much every zone feels much more populated than five or six months ago. Populations have grown a lot, so, yeah, ZOS is "killing it."

I'd kill for lower populated zone instances during the ungodly hours of the night. Or at later hours of prime time. At least you could quest without embracing your inner vampire

I play from around 7 am to around 4pm MDT. Lots of people (LOTS more than a few months ago), but things work fine for questing.....

Between 4 and 6AM PDT (sounds like an hour of overlap) is usually when I hang up my hat Around 5AM, things really start picking up, around when the East Coast wakes up.

I've discovered that even at 11PM PDT, other players can cause quest delays where you either have quests auto-complete because another player killed the boss in your vicinity or you have to twiddle your fingers waiting for respawns. Better instancing would solve a lot of problems.

Red_Feather

Kel wrote: »

Everyone misunderstands...
What Zos meant by "killing it" was how much money they rake in while hardly putting that money back into the infrastructure of the game.

So, yeah...they ARE killing it.



For thier investors...not for us.

I think ZoS are all artists and not one of them is a technical expert. Just look at there ESO live streams. Always technical difficulties. Every single one.

Sylvermynx

jainiadral wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

I don't know about PvP, but questing is miserable during prime time. Zone instance population is far too high for a decent play experience, sadly. Even after midnight PDT these days on PC-NA, pretty much every zone feels much more populated than five or six months ago. Populations have grown a lot, so, yeah, ZOS is "killing it."

I'd kill for lower populated zone instances during the ungodly hours of the night. Or at later hours of prime time. At least you could quest without embracing your inner vampire

I play from around 7 am to around 4pm MDT. Lots of people (LOTS more than a few months ago), but things work fine for questing.....

Between 4 and 6AM PDT (sounds like an hour of overlap) is usually when I hang up my hat Around 5AM, things really start picking up, around when the East Coast wakes up.

I've discovered that even at 11PM PDT, other players can cause quest delays where you either have quests auto-complete because another player killed the boss in your vicinity or you have to twiddle your fingers waiting for respawns. Better instancing would solve a lot of problems.

Eh, I quite agree (though I don't do much group content). But yeah, better instancing would be a major upgrade.

geonsocal

Sylvermynx wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

I don't know about PvP, but questing is miserable during prime time. Zone instance population is far too high for a decent play experience, sadly. Even after midnight PDT these days on PC-NA, pretty much every zone feels much more populated than five or six months ago. Populations have grown a lot, so, yeah, ZOS is "killing it."

I'd kill for lower populated zone instances during the ungodly hours of the night. Or at later hours of prime time. At least you could quest without embracing your inner vampire

Then again, I'm retired. I get to play whenever I want to.... for however long I want to.

In exchange for that - I'm old. I suppose it balances.

this made me smile

Sylvermynx

geonsocal wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

jainiadral wrote: »

I don't know about PvP, but questing is miserable during prime time. Zone instance population is far too high for a decent play experience, sadly. Even after midnight PDT these days on PC-NA, pretty much every zone feels much more populated than five or six months ago. Populations have grown a lot, so, yeah, ZOS is "killing it."

I'd kill for lower populated zone instances during the ungodly hours of the night. Or at later hours of prime time. At least you could quest without embracing your inner vampire

Then again, I'm retired. I get to play whenever I want to.... for however long I want to.

In exchange for that - I'm old. I suppose it balances.

this made me smile

Hey.... life is what you make of it. Now, I'm not in immanent danger of dying - but 71 is not young. So, I enjoy what I can make of every day - and part of that is loving this game!

Vapirko

Same *** different year

ArchMikem

Xarcus wrote: »

The fact is performances in cyrodiil are only bad when all populations are on high/full.

And people refuse to spread out. The 30 day has a 200 queue while the 7 day is barren.

Shantu

ESO is a great game. I believe ZOS cares...unfortunately I don't believe they are blessed with a great deal of technical foresight. There will come a point if they want to keep being successful, adding more players and more content, they'll HAVE to address the performance issues. Otherwise people will just find something more entertaining to do. It's just a shame things have to get bad before they get better. Not a great management style. Let's hope they're on a learning curve.

Juhasow

Xarcus wrote: »

The fact is performances in cyrodiil are only bad when all populations are on high/full.

Personally I feel like it starts to be bad when there are 2 bars for 2 alliances and 3 bars for 1. After that point it's just going downhill.

Savos_Saren

Go to MMORPG.COM and leave a review of the game so that prospective buyers can see what they're going to be getting into.

The only way to make ZOS start paying attention to their game is to hit them in the wallet.

We thought ZOS was paying more attention to their new game- but apparently it's some *** little phone game. So, they're just ignoring their customer base at this point.

Juhasow

ArchMikem wrote: »

Xarcus wrote: »

The fact is performances in cyrodiil are only bad when all populations are on high/full.

And people refuse to spread out. The 30 day has a 200 queue while the 7 day is barren.

Why would they spread ? It's not like zergling mashing 1 button inside large group cares about performance. He wants to be rewarded for his participation in PvP and being in a zerg is the easiest and the fastest way for that.

What is even more funny and ironic is fact that being in a zerg is basically saving zerg members from downsides of the the lag mainly being huge game unresponsiveness which is mostly caused by zergs.

It's basically in human nature to refuse to spread if being in large group gives You more benefits. For people to spread ZoS would've actually to take actions either forcing or encouraging people to spread. Ideas for that have been thrown on forums many times but ZoS instead preffers to just make 1 small change here and there like latest separating IC from Cyrodill and hoping that somehow things will get better.

xF1REFL1x

I cant remember this game being so bad... the game play is off, the sound is off, more frustration then its worth at the moment. These companies need to figure this out. The only time I feel good is when I see "Unusually Long Load Time"... at least I know it's working... lol.

JumpmanLane

Kel wrote: »

Everyone misunderstands...
What Zos meant by "killing it" was how much money they rake in while hardly putting that money back into the infrastructure of the game.

So, yeah...they ARE killing it.



For thier investors...not for us.

I really can’t see buying the next chapter. Performance is never addressed, barely mentioned by ZOS. I can’t even log in. When I could lag was sooooo bad