Cross-save
maahgle
Soul Shriven
Hi just a daily plea for ZOS to introduce cross-save between console and pc.
I think its time this game got with the times and introduced it. Every game is going cross-save now and i think a game as large as ESO should support it. Not even asking for cross-play. Just a cross-save.
For real i am going to start playing destiny 2 in the fall just for the cross-save. I reckon alot will do the same
At the very least introduce keyboard and mouse support for xbox since thats a thing now.
THANKS
maahgle
XBL
Edited by maahgle on June 19, 2019 8:12AM I think its time this game got with the times and introduced it. Every game is going cross-save now and i think a game as large as ESO should support it. Not even asking for cross-play. Just a cross-save.
For real i am going to start playing destiny 2 in the fall just for the cross-save. I reckon alot will do the same
At the very least introduce keyboard and mouse support for xbox since thats a thing now.
THANKS
maahgle
XBL
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Stonyfoot✭✭✭Same here. Warframe is doing it as well, though they haven't set the date yet. Cross save is inevitable for any game that wishes to stay relevant, I'll check with ESO once it is implemented.2 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 22, 2019 2:42PM2 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?0 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 22, 2019 3:00PM0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,Edited by ryzen_gamer_gal on June 22, 2019 3:34PM1 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,
how about access to a larger pool of players? isnt that worth something. i have friends that would play but they wont play on the pc and i really don't want to invest too much time into console, as i have 12 toons and almost 200 in game days (that is 4800 hours for people that count like that) on the pc, i just cant justify lossing all that to play with them, though i have started a toon on the xbox recently, as the game is part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and i got that for a dollar for the next 3 years.
and to the bold, you used the term "precious", invoking a your own contempt for the person, so i though i would toss in my own. i don't care if your 80 or a woman, i don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand, sport.
Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 22, 2019 3:41PM5 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,
With cross save the two accounts would be equal and you wouldn't level them separately, what one has the other has.
Not to be confused with cross play where the two platform players meet.6 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,
how about access to a larger pool of players? isnt that worth something. i have friends that would play but they wont play on the pc and i really don't want to invest too much time into console, as i have 12 toons and almost 200 in game days (that is 4800 hours for people that count like that) on the pc, i just cant justify lossing all that to play with them, though i have started a toon on the xbox recently, as the game is part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and i got that for a dollar for the next 3 years.
and to the bold, you used the term "precious", invoking a your own contempt for the person, so i though i would toss in my own. i don't care if your 80 or a woman, i don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand, sport.
Access to a larger pool of players?
Given the EU login queue fiasco, the recent Guild History problems, and the eternal Groupfinder queue problems...
I'm not sure that ESO can handle a larger pool of dedicated players.
Especially since there's not much money in it, given that these arent new players buying new accounts and the content to go with it, but rather experienced players playing the same account on different platforms.2 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,
how about access to a larger pool of players? isnt that worth something. i have friends that would play but they wont play on the pc and i really don't want to invest too much time into console, as i have 12 toons and almost 200 in game days (that is 4800 hours for people that count like that) on the pc, i just cant justify lossing all that to play with them, though i have started a toon on the xbox recently, as the game is part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and i got that for a dollar for the next 3 years.
and to the bold, you used the term "precious", invoking a your own contempt for the person, so i though i would toss in my own. i don't care if your 80 or a woman, i don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand, sport.
Access to a larger pool of players?
Given the EU login queue fiasco, the recent Guild History problems, and the eternal Groupfinder queue problems...
I'm not sure that ESO can handle a larger pool of dedicated players.
Especially since there's not much money in it, given that these arent new players buying new accounts and the content to go with it, but rather experienced players playing the same account on different platforms.
well i am talking about best case, best case they have the ability to handle all the players. and i have described a scenario where new players, my friends who don't want to play on the pc but would on the console, those that are not playing right now, would spend more time in the game, therefore spend more money in the game.Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 22, 2019 3:57PM1 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.1 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_playEdited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on June 22, 2019 4:01PM3 -
shimm✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »the only reasons i can see are addons and the fact that if they did that, pc would have to wait to get patches at the same time as consoles.
Not sure about the addons, but I’m sure you’re right about the pc patch thing, from ZOS’ point of view anyway. It’s ironic that the console patches released well after the pc patches sometimes contain the same bugs. But yeah, it’d probably be a lot more work for the devs to release the patches simultaneous across all platforms... even though other games do it! I still want some kind of unified save/account, with “millions” of players out there I’d bet there are quite a few of us pc and console players.2 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_play
That does not counter my statement. The way ESO is built, corss-save is really not an option.2 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_play
That does not counter my statement. The way ESO is built, corss-save is really not an option.
that might be true but wouldn't it be cool?1 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_play
That does not counter my statement. The way ESO is built, corss-save is really not an option.
that might be true but wouldn't it be cool?
For me? No. For some people? Sure. For ZOS? Maybe. For Microsoft and Sony? Hell no.1 -
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_play
That does not counter my statement. The way ESO is built, corss-save is really not an option.
that might be true but wouldn't it be cool?
For me? No. For some people? Sure. For ZOS? Maybe. For Microsoft and Sony? Hell no.
what are you on about? microsoft is pushing pretty hard for crossplay to be the norm these days, they would love to have the option to have crossplay between pc and the xbox for a game like this. especially if sony doesn't buy into it.
also just imagine all the thousands of players that you have the opportunity to play with, i mean that is the draw of a game like this right? massively multiplayer online right?1 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_play
That does not counter my statement. The way ESO is built, corss-save is really not an option.
that might be true but wouldn't it be cool?
For me? No. For some people? Sure. For ZOS? Maybe. For Microsoft and Sony? Hell no.
what are you on about? microsoft is pushing pretty hard for crossplay to be the norm these days, they would love to have the option to have crossplay between pc and the xbox for a game like this. especially if sony doesn't buy into it.
also just imagine all the thousands of players that you have the opportunity to play with, i mean that is the draw of a game like this right? massively multiplayer online right?
I don't care for any kind of cross-play and don't really need it. Not a console guy and honestly I just don't understand the problem.
In regards to MS and Sony, consider how often do you see those posts where people ask about transfer to PC? And be honest with me, when was the last time you saw someone ask to transfer to consoles? ESO on consoles is just a weaker experience.
Given the chance, I can see a lot of more dedictated players bailing, like some already did.0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_play
That does not counter my statement. The way ESO is built, corss-save is really not an option.
that might be true but wouldn't it be cool?
For me? No. For some people? Sure. For ZOS? Maybe. For Microsoft and Sony? Hell no.
what are you on about? microsoft is pushing pretty hard for crossplay to be the norm these days, they would love to have the option to have crossplay between pc and the xbox for a game like this. especially if sony doesn't buy into it.
also just imagine all the thousands of players that you have the opportunity to play with, i mean that is the draw of a game like this right? massively multiplayer online right?
I don't care for any kind of cross-play and don't really need it. Not a console guy and honestly I just don't understand the problem.
In regards to MS and Sony, consider how often do you see those posts where people ask about transfer to PC? And be honest with me, when was the last time you saw someone ask to transfer to consoles? ESO on consoles is just a weaker experience.
Given the chance, I can see a lot of more dedictated players bailing, like some already did.
Beg to differ, I play both but mostly go back to PS4 because PvP in not dead there.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,
how about access to a larger pool of players? isnt that worth something. i have friends that would play but they wont play on the pc and i really don't want to invest too much time into console, as i have 12 toons and almost 200 in game days (that is 4800 hours for people that count like that) on the pc, i just cant justify lossing all that to play with them, though i have started a toon on the xbox recently, as the game is part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and i got that for a dollar for the next 3 years.
and to the bold, you used the term "precious", invoking a your own contempt for the person, so i though i would toss in my own. i don't care if your 80 or a woman, i don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand, sport.
Access to a larger pool of players?
Given the EU login queue fiasco, the recent Guild History problems, and the eternal Groupfinder queue problems...
I'm not sure that ESO can handle a larger pool of dedicated players.
Especially since there's not much money in it, given that these arent new players buying new accounts and the content to go with it, but rather experienced players playing the same account on different platforms.
well i am talking about best case, best case they have the ability to handle all the players. and i have described a scenario where new players, my friends who don't want to play on the pc but would on the console, those that are not playing right now, would spend more time in the game, therefore spend more money in the game.
Sure. In the very best case, ZOS can handle all the players they currently have, plus transfers from other platforms.
Realistically, ZOS can't even handle the players they currently have. The last 3 major issues they've talked about, they've literally blamed having too many players using the same system at one time.
So until they can, cross-save would cause more problems for the infrastructure of ESO, plain and simple.
If ZOS wants to do cross-save, they've got a ton of work to do to get ESO ready for it.1 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,
how about access to a larger pool of players? isnt that worth something. i have friends that would play but they wont play on the pc and i really don't want to invest too much time into console, as i have 12 toons and almost 200 in game days (that is 4800 hours for people that count like that) on the pc, i just cant justify lossing all that to play with them, though i have started a toon on the xbox recently, as the game is part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and i got that for a dollar for the next 3 years.
and to the bold, you used the term "precious", invoking a your own contempt for the person, so i though i would toss in my own. i don't care if your 80 or a woman, i don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand, sport.
You should learn some manners before coming to a public forum6 -
Cross platform save would destroy a third of potential earnings that they might incur. You cannot blame a legitimate business for wanting to make money through proven methods.1 -
Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Possibly if they had done it from launch, but I think that ship has long sailed.
You can't just flip a switch 5 years later and "make it happen". There are several issues that the current server system is simply not set up to handle.
I don't see them changing the entire server setup this late in the game's life.Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Just because Destiny can do it, does not mean ESO can do it. Especially since Destiny's server structure is entirely different from ESO's.
there are a lot more then just destiny, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_that_support_cross-platform_play
That does not counter my statement. The way ESO is built, corss-save is really not an option.
that might be true but wouldn't it be cool?
Yeah, so would a lot of things that are never going to happen.0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭I admit. that since i have gotten an actual answer for my question, i dont much care for cross save option. i play on pc with a bluetooth controller on steam through steam play for linux that offers premade installs using their version of wine that they call proton and an implementation of a program that is called dxvk, or directx vulkan. I have no desire to change this circumstance unless or until ZOS releases a native linux version using vulkan instead of directx that is proven to be more stable than what steam offers me now.
Thank you @TequilaFire for answering the question i asked. An older person like me isnt always up to speed with terminology. I took a 25 year hiatus from video games, during which time i was a working adult with no time to play. Hadnt really been an option for me. MMO's didnt even really become a thing until sometime after leaving the armed services. Though rpg have always been a draw for me since highschool, the geeks that we were would play during study hall.Edited by ryzen_gamer_gal on June 22, 2019 11:04PM0 -
ryzen_gamer_gal✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »ryzen_gamer_gal wrote: »What's a crossave precious?
Just what it sounds like champ, Where you can log into your account no matter which platform you are on. ESO doesn't save anything client side, so it ought to be easy.
Well, if i cant play the game by logging into it, then what is the advantage?
what are you on about? i have played on both the xbox and the PC version lately, different accounts obviously, was fine for me.
I'm going on about cross ave and trying to understand what the advantage is about? What does cross save give me and ai still havent got an answer from anyone.
Also i am not a champ. Champ is a dog. I am not a dog. Miss would be appropriate though, given my age and gender,
how about access to a larger pool of players? isnt that worth something. i have friends that would play but they wont play on the pc and i really don't want to invest too much time into console, as i have 12 toons and almost 200 in game days (that is 4800 hours for people that count like that) on the pc, i just cant justify lossing all that to play with them, though i have started a toon on the xbox recently, as the game is part of the Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and i got that for a dollar for the next 3 years.
and to the bold, you used the term "precious", invoking a your own contempt for the person, so i though i would toss in my own. i don't care if your 80 or a woman, i don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand, sport.
Clearly you have no idea of the use of precious and are just making excuses for your bad behavior. Perhpas this is becuase of you own unique personal experience with the word precious that was used against you in a sarcastic way because of a history of bad behavior. If that is the case then you are not holding me accountable for the meaning of the word but projecting onto me an indignity that you have learned to believe to be true and all instances.
Here's a link for what normal people use the word precious to mean and along with it some instances of where it doesn't mean that. Since you clearly didnt read my context correctly, i had to actually google the use of precious as an insult to discern what seemed to me to be a fallacious claim on your part, that is, your assertion that i was rude first to you.
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/61934/in-what-occasion-could-the-word-precious-be-taken-disapprovingly-or-sarcastic
Since you seem to only have experience with this word as an insult, i'll do my nest to refrain from using it with you in the future. You're response though clearly shows that this is a trigger for you and that is outside the normal persons experience with that word. You may wish to learn to communicate more effectively because most people would not see the context in the light you have colored it with in dealing with me.Edited by ryzen_gamer_gal on June 22, 2019 11:24PM0
