Resistances are broken in this game

Delparis

Tested this in BG with overcaped physical resistance 38k and spell resistance 40k (5 heavy + 1 light + 1 medium)

1. WTF with those damage ?
2. Dizzing swing does more damage than Executioner ?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Knightpanther

Are you kidding me?

FFS is this stupid?

What the hell?

I mean

FFS Bon Jovi??

Whats wrong with FFDP?

Be safe

Delparis

This game has the same image of those who created it.

BROKEN

TimeDazzler

The person that killed you probably dropped major brutality or another buff. Testing in a bg is the dumbest thing you can do, test with a friend instead where you can actually control other variables.

SirAndy

Bon Jovi?

Aznarb

PvP doesn't make any sens in this game anyway.
0 balance.
That what happen when you don't make different tooltips for pvp and pve in this kind of game.

Firstmep

Those look reasonable numbers for your resistances.
Dont see the issue.
Also dont forget crits, pen etc.
High resist arent everything.

usmguy1234

One word: penetration

Koronach

I guess they have no reason to not give Argonians poison resistance back then. That way I don't have the game telling me we have more poison resistance than all the races yet I have none.

ellahellabella

@Ghostbane your addon strikes again! XD

JAwtunes

LOL. The best bit is that you have summoned Gina to read this.

hakan

that crit resistance value only halves the crit damage afaik.

for your second question; previous poster could be right. dropped buffs could be the answers.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Only 1700 crit resist, that i is your problem.

Dagoth_Rac

A hard-hitting skill with a cast time and a direct damage execute are hitting you for 3k damage. 3 ticks of a DoT execute hit you for a combined 2k. You had 7 instances of incoming damage and they hit for a combined 15k. Resistances seem to be working good. That would kill most players 3x over but it only did 68% of your max health on a low health build.

Ace_SiN

Overcapped resists is a trash setup if it's the primary focus. Really low weapon/spell damage, max stat, and crit is a useless build concept unless you're a full tank that can hold block and sustain. Only then are the damage modifiers so low that you can shrug off damage. Otherwise, you might as well run around naked because you're as good as dead anyway unless you have a pocket healer (but you're still useless).

Burst damage has always been insane in ESO and you need burst healing to counter this. Resists are only a means to give you an extra second or two to press a button that's strong enough to counter the incoming damage. Health Recovery is strong against sustained damage like dots, but even it's typically not enough on its own when stacked high and faced with high burst. Also, note that with the removal of health recovery % passives, from certain races, this has affected Heavy Armor builds dramatically.

Druid40

Does the last hit now only show remaining health taken by an ability or the full damage you would have taken, as it did in previous updates?

therift

I agree with the others who commented on your crit resistance. That's your Achilles' heal.

BlackMadara

Delparis wrote: »

Tested this in BG with overcaped physical resistance 38k and spell resistance 40k (5 heavy + 1 light + 1 medium)

1. WTF with those damage ?
2. Dizzing swing does more damage than Executioner ?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

With 7260 effective weapon damage (weapon damage + max stamina/ 10.5) dizzying swing deals 10300 damage.

If your opponent has a maul and debuffed you with major fracture, you would have 25600 armor or about 39% mitigation.

Applying battle spirit and your mitigation would yield 3160 damage.

A crit against your crit resistance would deal 23% extra damage, bringing your damage taken to 3880.

So that seems about right. Resistances don't make you invincible. You must use other mitigation sources.

goldenarcher1

Well played OP.

idk

Cries wrote: »

The person that killed you probably dropped major brutality or another buff. Testing in a bg is the dumbest thing you can do, test with a friend instead where you can actually control other variables.

This. With the information in the OP they can only guess at what’s happening.

Demra

therift wrote: »

I agree with the others who commented on your crit resistance. That's your Achilles' heal.

How can you get your crit ress beyond 1.7k without using impreg? Its bgs so no cp.

Raudgrani

Depends on a lot of things. Their buffs, your debuffs. Their gear, your gear.

As an extreme example, let's say you're a vampire wearing Mark of the Pariah, you had major fracture/breach on you early on in the fight. Your enemy didn't re-apply fracture/breach, and his major sorcery/brutality ran out, and none of his few last hits did crit.

It depends on such a lot of things.

SpiderKnight

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Only 1700 crit resist, that i is your problem.

Without impreg, you cannot get more than 1700cr. This is non-cp, remember.

therift

Demra wrote: »

therift wrote: »

I agree with the others who commented on your crit resistance. That's your Achilles' heal.

How can you get your crit ress beyond 1.7k without using impreg? Its bgs so no cp.

Oops lol

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

SpiderKnight wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Only 1700 crit resist, that i is your problem.

Without impreg, you cannot get more than 1700cr. This is non-cp, remember.

7 inpen will get you 1806(-26%) at gold, 2064(-30%) if you have a shield. a healer can give you 1304(-19%) with transmutation. Impregnatable gives 2000(-29%). 1650(-24%) from cp. I am not stating anything by these numbers. Just getting the raw numbers out there.

though i will take this time to plug an idea that i floated a while ago, put crit resists on the lady mundus.

Right now, 2752 resist is not that appealing to most people. Putting ~1600 crit resistance* would make it a viable mundas, at least for PvP.

*I got that number based around the statement of ZOSs balance of mundai and 5 piece bonuses, that being a 5 piece is 2.31* a set piece and a mundus value is 1.85 a set bonus, so using impregnable armor, 2000/2.31= ~865 and 865*1.85= ~1601, this would put a divines piece at ~120, almost half an impen piece but you also get the regular resistance as well. Seems like a good trade off. with full divines, you would get 2441(-35%) crit resists and 4196 (6% damage mitigation) resists.

Though, that number, 1601 crits resist, without divines, might be too high, as that would be 23% crit resist. Though, again, since the base resists of the lady are only 3.89% damage reduction, that might be all right

JumpmanLane

You could have 100k resistances, it only mitigates 50%, the cap. Forget pen, for get crits forget all the damage the guy did to you.

My question is this: what do you expect to do to anybody with 25k max Magicka, 1700 spell and weapon damage and 10k max Stam. Hide ya stats. Poor @ZOS_GinaBruno probably laughing herself into a stomach cramp reading this stuff.

Minno

Welcome to the soft cap meta where battlespirit flattens the game, block is stronger than major protection+resists combined, and shields were buffed lol

Delparis

JumpmanLane wrote: »

You could have 100k resistances, it only mitigates 50%, the cap. Forget pen, for get crits forget all the damage the guy did to you.

My question is this: what do you expect to do to anybody with 25k max Magicka, 1700 spell and weapon damage and 10k max Stam. Hide ya stats. Poor @ZOS_GinaBruno probably laughing herself into a stomach cramp reading this stuff.

What do you advise ? what should be my max magicka and spell power ?

barney2525

Since Executioner is listed last, is that showing the total damage it Would have done, or just the remaining balance that was needed to finish the kill?

Anti_Virus

Hence the tank meta,
OP consider wearing sets that grant you flat percentage mitigation

Reactive etc.

Jeremy

Delparis wrote: »

Tested this in BG with overcaped physical resistance 38k and spell resistance 40k (5 heavy + 1 light + 1 medium)

1. WTF with those damage ?
2. Dizzing swing does more damage than Executioner ?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

I wouldn't bother stacking resistance for PvP if I were you. I've tried that before and found it unimpressive to put it mildly.