I am a bit confused with Cat evolution in Elsyweyr

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purplespirit1 wrote: »

It's still...just weird.

And here is the thing: This feels so "stuck on", even though I understand it is mentioned in the lore, it was clearly not thought-out.

The Khajiit would have -THE- best spy network of all time! During the three-banners war, there could be Alfiq placed all over Tamriel, sending reports to Razum-darj. The war would have been over in months!

Or, we could have seen a horrible backlash against normal cats, as everyone fears that they are secretly Alfiq in disguise...

To me, the Khajiit were already super cool - we did not need to do this to them. Kudos for paying attention to Lore, but ...sometimes strange lore should be just...pushed aside. (Need I say midichlorians, anyone?)

No.

spartaxoxo

Spacegato wrote: »

“All Khajiit are born looking roughly similar, but as they get older, they’ll grow into different forms, depending on when they were born. You can have a brother and sister that are very different physiologically. For example, one could be a Senche-raht, and one could be an Alfiq. It’s a very strange family unit as far as outsiders are concerned, but to the Khajiit, it’s very normal.”
https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56101

Housecats are not the same as khajiit so it is perfectly fine to keep them as pets.
Same goes for all the wild cats they are not khajiit they are completely different spieces. And a little side note, Senche-raht are not just mounts they hate that, they work together with their partner.

To add to this, Khajit have an affinity and feel a bit protective of the other cat species because they are all cats. But do not consider them Khajits. They do not like cat fur products but will keep them as pets.

Similar to some humans real world fascination and love of monkeys.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

twev wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

The 'big talking cats' are senche-raht and they are as much khajit as any other and just as sentient even when being ridden.
The 'talking cats' are alfiq, also just as much khajit and just as sentient and absolutely not housecats.

They are completely different from feral cats -- all of them are khajit. They just look different because of the moon phase they were born in.

Why doesn't my senche-raht talk to me?

Dont use him as a mount.

daemondamian

I thought the merchant cats you can get from the crown store talking was a novelty thing unique to just them.

So I was surprised and mildly disturbed in Elsweyr when I thought hey I'll see what happens if I try to talk to this normal house cat and it spoke back to me

Korah_Eaglecry

mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »

I mean... we have the Khajiit, thats a given, we all know that.

But then we have these big talking cats, which are obviously intelligent and parts of the Khajiit society, but at the same time the same type of cat is used as a monut, lacking the Intelligence of the speaking ones.

We have talking cats who can run a business or manage a bank, but at the same time we have basic Housecats who appear to be the same subspecies, no different than house cats in ur world, owned by the Khajiit.

On top of that, Eslyweyr is still full of savage wild cats, that are not more than beasts...

I mean, what is going on here? Isnt it kinda weird when a Khajiit owns a house cat as a pet, when the exact same species literally runs the local Bank?

So theres a few things that needs to be addressed here.

First off, the Khajiit come in many shapes and sizes because of their connection to the phases of the moons. Theres something like 16 or so different furstocks that make up the Khajiit race. So yes there is furstock as small as a house cat that is just as clever and intelligent as the Khajiit furstock players can play as. Same goes for the big senche-rahts that you can ride on with the big stocky front legs and smaller stumpy back legs. The senche-rahts that serve as mounts have chosen to allow someone to ride on their backs, but that isn't always the case and sometimes they'll absolutely refuse to serve that purpose.

The confusion might be coming from the other creatures in the game that are part of the feline family but aren't actually Khajiit. Sabre cats, senche-leopards/lions/tigers/panthers/etc and house cats that can be found everywhere in the game. All of these felines are considered distant cousins of the Khajiit. The senches, in particular, often serve as mounts for Khajiit but can easily be untamed and found in the wild.

I consider the Khajiits insistence of relation to other felines as more of a kindred spirit sort of deal or them being cheeky. But ultimately the only cats the Khajiit truely treat equally are the other furstocks within their own race.

mairwen85

Mixith wrote: »

Zacuel wrote: »

ApostateHobo wrote: »

mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »

Zacuel wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

The 'big talking cats' are senche-raht and they are as much khajit as any other and just as sentient even when being ridden.
The 'talking cats' are alfiq, also just as much khajit and just as sentient and absolutely not housecats.

They are completely different from feral cats -- all of them are khajit. They just look different because of the moon phase they were born in.

I pity all khajit born under a moon cycle that prevents them from having thumbs.

Well, at least these senche-raht are big and musculare... Other than those house cat like ones...

Can you imagine coming from a race that created humanoid Cat-People, super buffed giant cats, and you are unlucky enough to be born as a freaking kitten?

Alfiq might be small and look like a regular cat, but they usually have very strong magic capabilities.

And will never have the experience of having thumbs.

Maybe they can use magic thumbs!

Summon Thumb for 30 seconds, costs 500 ultimate.

KillsAllElves

Give us an alfiq that can raise dead alfiq's and fight for us alfiq players.

Gives an alfiq race.

Gives us alfiq costumes and motifs

Give us litter boxes for alfiq's

HappyLittleTree

For understanding you should watch this.

It's a great summary of the lore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MteinMPdHP8

Grianasteri

mann9753b16_ESO wrote: »

I mean... we have the Khajiit, thats a given, we all know that.

But then we have these big talking cats, which are obviously intelligent and parts of the Khajiit society, but at the same time the same type of cat is used as a monut, lacking the Intelligence of the speaking ones.

We have talking cats who can run a business or manage a bank, but at the same time we have basic Housecats who appear to be the same subspecies, no different than house cats in ur world, owned by the Khajiit.

On top of that, Eslyweyr is still full of savage wild cats, that are not more than beasts...

I mean, what is going on here? Isnt it kinda weird when a Khajiit owns a house cat as a pet, when the exact same species literally runs the local Bank?

You are not the only one to have noticed this and muse... this makes no sense.

Although, maybe the Sench-raat that are used as mounts, can speak but we do not interact with them in game. Maybe the talking "domestic" cats, are actually a different, more evolved species but look similar.

I have always looked at the existence of wild big cats and domestic cats in the same way that we, as in humans on Earth, have Monkies and Apes, so that is not hard to explain. Its the talking Sench and "domestic" cats that could do with a bit more explanation.

HappyLittleTree

Why do i feel personally attacked when reading all these comments?

Read the lore...There are different breeds and they have been there for a long time.
Both a Khajiit's appearance and physiology depend on the Lunar Lattice of Masser and Secunda during the time of its birth.

Their intelligence do not differ from any other khajiit you encounter in the game.

beadabow

I think the real problem is understanding the identity crisis all Khajiit infected with lycanthropy most be going through. This felinic-canine psychological conflict could help explain why skooma addiction seems to affect Khajiit more than any other race in Tamriel (though its base ingredient, moon-sugar, seems to have similar qualities to the herbs we call "cat-nip," and thus might also be a contributing factor to the Khajiit skooma-addiction phenomenon). Yet, the two could also be completely unrelated. Still, some scholars of Tamrielic Sociology have expressed an interest in further research of the topic.

AlienSlof

I've always thought of moon sugar as a Tamriel version of catnip.

I also have a character called 'Cat With Thumbs'

Huyen

Most if not all Khajiit worship Jone and Jode. The two moons basicly. The stance of both moons during birth decides what sub-species they become, and if they become humanlike or not. Enough lore to be found on google tbh.

karthrag_inak

what this one doesn't understand is why are khajiit portrayed as enjoying moonsugar sweetness? cats do not have the ability to taste sweetness.

albesca

karthrag_inak wrote: »

what this one doesn't understand is why are khajiit portrayed as enjoying moonsugar sweetness? cats do not have the ability to taste sweetness.

It's a stab in the dark, but maybe the reason is that khajiits are not cats?

zaria

purplespirit1 wrote: »

It's still...just weird.

And here is the thing: This feels so "stuck on", even though I understand it is mentioned in the lore, it was clearly not thought-out.

The Khajiit would have -THE- best spy network of all time! During the three-banners war, there could be Alfiq placed all over Tamriel, sending reports to Razum-darj. The war would have been over in months!

Or, we could have seen a horrible backlash against normal cats, as everyone fears that they are secretly Alfiq in disguise...

To me, the Khajiit were already super cool - we did not need to do this to them. Kudos for paying attention to Lore, but ...sometimes strange lore should be just...pushed aside. (Need I say midichlorians, anyone?)

Alfiq does not look like house cats, they are larger and far more muscular.
ESO also has standard housecats.


Alfiq uses the Senche Cub model like the Raz pet.

Now I strongly suspect most Khajiit uses timing to get kitten of the furstock they want.
This would explains why some types dominates