How falling to the point of giving up made me improve.

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As I've no doubt posted before, DPS is not my strong-point. Not naturally at least.

I had at one point resigned myself to thinking I'd never improve. That I'd forever be stuck with a pitiful 17k dps parse, with terrible sustain.

However, with the support of the great guys & girls in the Casual Rascals guild on PC EU, I made some last minute changes, took advice, and you know what?

It worked. I made changes to my gear, gold weapons, gold enchants, etc. Applied a monster set. Kra'gh in my case. Nothing to scream about but it's a solid starter set I suppose. Got hold of an overland set to replace a crafted set, which added pen'. Worked on my rotation.

This time last week I was pulling at best 18k dps on my Stamblade. Last night? Was able to sustain a solid 23k dps on blue food.

Now I know 23k dps is nothing to scream about in itself. But at a personal level, it proves to me that I am capable of improving. I do need to work on my rotation. I'm missing a lot of LA and that is detrimental, I know, especially as a Redguard, as I'd be correct in thinking landing LA restores stamina on that race? But I'm starting to be able to see where I am going wrong. This time last week I was blind. I've actually taken further measures to improve my sustain, and have since become a vampire for the Stage 2 bonuses.

Would I be right in thinking that this is all what is referred to as progression?

Anyway, there's been a lot of doom & gloom on these boards lately. Wanted to share the positive experience I've been having instead. The fact that this game can convince to stay up until 1:30am just training on a dummy to improve says a lot about my love of the game. I'm very happy right now, and I feel like I know what I'm doing, at last.

In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • WoppaBoem
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    Good for you, Congratz man. Keep it up it keeps rising easily when you don't even think about your light attacks.
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  • Elwendryll
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    yway, there's been a lot of doom & gloom on these boards lately. Wanted to share the positive experience I've been having instead. The fact that this game can convince to stay up until 1:30am just training on a dummy to improve says a lot about my love of the game. I'm very happy right now, and I feel like I know what I'm doing, at last.

    Congrats, I had a lot of struggle to pass 20k dps, after that it took me more than a year to reach 30k, and one more to reach 40k+, I especially relate to that part as I was still awake at 2:30 AM, a week day, parsing on my trial dummy, I managed to reach 70k. I know I'm still far from what is achievable, but I more than doubled my dps compared to my first parses I did on a 3M dummy. Now I'm aiming at the next threshold, 50k :) The fact that it's possible to improve that much with practice is awesome, and I still managed to find a gameplay that suits me perfectly, and I use whatever I want to use, and I'm having a lot of fun.
    Edited by Elwendryll on June 14, 2019 1:27PM
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  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    Elwendryll wrote: »
    yway, there's been a lot of doom & gloom on these boards lately. Wanted to share the positive experience I've been having instead. The fact that this game can convince to stay up until 1:30am just training on a dummy to improve says a lot about my love of the game. I'm very happy right now, and I feel like I know what I'm doing, at last.

    Congrats, I had a lot of struggle to pass 20k dps, after that it took me more than a year to reach 30k, and one more to reach 40k+, I especially relate to that part as I was still awake at 2:30 AM, a week day, parsing on my trial dummy, I managed to reach 70k. I know I'm still far from what is achievable, but I more than doubled my dps compared to my first parses I did on a 3M dummy. Now I'm aiming at the next threshold, 50k :) The fact that it's possible to improve that much with practice is awesome, and I still managed to find a gameplay that suits me perfectly, and I use whatever I want to use, and I'm having a lot of fun.

    Absolutely. It's like, I was stubbornly sticking to the same mediocre gear. Gear is certainly only part of the equation, but it was obviously a factor. Having seen one area of improvement, I'm now starting to appreciate all the other areas.

    It'll be a long road but at least I now know I can move forward.
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Small changes can have massive results. When in doubt risking failure is a great way to find success. Well played OP.
  • kylewwefan
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    Good job. Gear, mundus, food, enchants, buffs, debuffs make an impact on your DPS, but nothing like a solid clean rotation that you can handle and pull off all the time under pressure.

    Light attacks make up a significant portion of every DD’s DPS. So I’ve been told.

    It won’t be long, you get to 30k then 40k then keep reaching for the stars. I detest beating on that dummy, but it is helpful to get a rotation hammered down.

    Do yourself a favor and use dummy food and cheap pots for “testing” lava foot stomp (max Stam & recovery) crunchy eye bowl(max magic & recovery). Cyrodil potions work well.

    I was stuck at 20k for a long time.

    Rotations suck. It’s one step in the process of not feeling like playing your way anymore. But the trade off to getting a lot more damage in the same time make it seem worth the effort.
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    kylewwefan wrote: »
    Good job. Gear, mundus, food, enchants, buffs, debuffs make an impact on your DPS, but nothing like a solid clean rotation that you can handle and pull off all the time under pressure.

    Light attacks make up a significant portion of every DD’s DPS. So I’ve been told.

    It won’t be long, you get to 30k then 40k then keep reaching for the stars. I detest beating on that dummy, but it is helpful to get a rotation hammered down.

    Do yourself a favor and use dummy food and cheap pots for “testing” lava foot stomp (max Stam & recovery) crunchy eye bowl(max magic & recovery). Cyrodil potions work well.

    I was stuck at 20k for a long time.

    Rotations suck. It’s one step in the process of not feeling like playing your way anymore. But the trade off to getting a lot more damage in the same time make it seem worth the effort.

    Yep'. I have the Stamina parse food. A guildmate was kind enough to send it to me. I've been fiddling with foods that I would use in live dungeons and trials, but later tonight I'm going to parse with Lava Foot so I can maximise those stam' resources.
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    Talk about strides. Since posting this thread I've applied a Cyrodiil set for increased DoT, and I'm now hitting 26-27k dps reliably. Still think I'm missing more than a few LA though. Must keep practising.

    Have bound the paddles on my Razer Sabertooth to the triggers, so I'm hoping the lack of travel there will make my LA more responsive. Will take a little getting used too... Unless? Of course! Bind the shoulder M1/M2 buttons to the triggers! They're practically in the same place, but don't have the potential to miss like the triggers as they're digital input!

    Too tired to parse now. Will get back to training tomorrow. Today has been great though. I'm now hitting 10k extra damage over the highest I could ever manage back on Xbox. This is serious progression for me.
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • zvavi
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    Happy to hear some people are practicing hard, it means you really love the game, but you must remember, that doing mechanics is as important if you want to stay alive :wink:
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    zvavi wrote: »
    Happy to hear some people are practicing hard, it means you really love the game, but you must remember, that doing mechanics is as important if you want to stay alive :wink:

    Definitely. I appreciate getting my DPS down is only the first step. I've started watching YouTube videos from pros, and the guild I'm in has plenty of experienced players happy to run dungeon school for direct experience.

    I'm hoping to work on getting my first dungeon skin now that my DPS has gotten the all-clear from the guild. Literally about to watch a run now actually, several times, so I can remember as much as possible before my first live run at the end of the month.
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • Icy_Waffles
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    Congrats. Honestly as long as you are having fun and improving- no one can say anything bad about it. Improving is important as it will allow you to take part in group activity without being a hindrance. Keep up the good work!
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    Congrats. Honestly as long as you are having fun and improving- no one can say anything bad about it. Improving is important as it will allow you to take part in group activity without being a hindrance. Keep up the good work!

    Yes mate, I am having a lot of fun. I can't get over how much enjoyment this game gives me.
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • robpr
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    Good. At least one person that don't throw excuses "I just play the game for fun" and let tank to do 20% of group dps.
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    Was able to get this earlier today. Do have some work on sustaining this number though. Currently getting a reliable 27-28k dps. But I know I can get this high at least! It's progress!
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • burglar
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    Yes! Anytime you fail, changing up your game and trying something new is progressing, even if it doesn't seem like you are moving forward. Failure is only an indication that your solution lies elsewhere, which can only be reached if you continue trying. It's hard to realize this though, as most traditional school systems, which most of us are subjected to, train you to believe that getting things wrong and failure is bad, but it'd the opposite. You are on the right track, keep at it!
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  • D0PAMINE
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    Keep it up. I was able to tank my first Vet trial after watching Xynode do it, and with help from my guild. It was vAA and I was on axe duty. It took 2 tries because I accidentally roll dodged off the rock like a dork.
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    As I've no doubt posted before, DPS is not my strong-point. Not naturally at least.

    I had at one point resigned myself to thinking I'd never improve. That I'd forever be stuck with a pitiful 17k dps parse, with terrible sustain.

    However, with the support of the great guys & girls in the Casual Rascals guild on PC EU, I made some last minute changes, took advice, and you know what?

    It worked. I made changes to my gear, gold weapons, gold enchants, etc. Applied a monster set. Kra'gh in my case. Nothing to scream about but it's a solid starter set I suppose. Got hold of an overland set to replace a crafted set, which added pen'. Worked on my rotation.

    This time last week I was pulling at best 18k dps on my Stamblade. Last night? Was able to sustain a solid 23k dps on blue food.

    Now I know 23k dps is nothing to scream about in itself. But at a personal level, it proves to me that I am capable of improving. I do need to work on my rotation. I'm missing a lot of LA and that is detrimental, I know, especially as a Redguard, as I'd be correct in thinking landing LA restores stamina on that race? But I'm starting to be able to see where I am going wrong. This time last week I was blind. I've actually taken further measures to improve my sustain, and have since become a vampire for the Stage 2 bonuses.

    Would I be right in thinking that this is all what is referred to as progression?

    Anyway, there's been a lot of doom & gloom on these boards lately. Wanted to share the positive experience I've been having instead. The fact that this game can convince to stay up until 1:30am just training on a dummy to improve says a lot about my love of the game. I'm very happy right now, and I feel like I know what I'm doing, at last.

    Well done !!! When you strive for your personal best, you can only ever succeed.
  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    You know I think I can take some real life lessons from this saga.

    I really want to learn the electric guitar, and well, if I can improve my DPS in ESO by trying over and over again, why not the same principle in learning an instrument?

    Motivation is always something I've struggled with, due to a number of factors that I'm not going to burden you guys with. But frankly this DPS effort has taught that if I focus on the goal, I can and will get closer to achieving it.

    Obviously a guitar is gonna' take a lot longer, but the principle surely is the same, if only with a vastly different time-scale?
    Edited by CMDR_Un1k0rn on June 16, 2019 12:05PM
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
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