Please Add the Option to Hide Shoulders

CompletelyToast
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I want this added so bad for the outfit system. Some motifs look great without shoulders.
  • Ildun
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    Agree, better yet options to hide any and all part of body.
  • Chrysa1is
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    You can with outfitter
  • CompletelyToast
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    Chrysa1is wrote: »
    You can with outfitter

    You can only hide your helmet at the moment
  • mague
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    I started to PvP, just for those shoulders ;)

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  • FrancisCrawford
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    I'm rarely one to blast ZoS for anything other than software quality or devops choices, but not putting a "hide shoulders" option into the outfit system by now is inexcusable.

    The standard workaround -- not good but not wholly terrible either -- is to use the outfit system to equip the appearance of small, non-floaty shoulders. The usual choice, conveniently early in the alphabetic listings, is Akaviri epaulets.
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on June 13, 2019 6:11AM
  • BretonMage
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    Yes. And hip flaps, or tassets, or whatever they're called.
  • Dusk_Coven
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    BretonMage wrote: »
    Yes. And hip flaps, or tassets, or whatever they're called.

    Oh gawd yes these. On many outfits (robes!) they look so out of place that I wonder the outfit didn't just omit a texture for it.
    Edited by Dusk_Coven on June 13, 2019 6:39AM
  • ArchMikem
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    We already know ZOS has a Dev Build where there's a Hide Option for all armor slots. But this build is like over a year old and I don't know why they won't put it Live.
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  • Jeremy
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    I want this added so bad for the outfit system. Some motifs look great without shoulders.

    In the meantime you may could try picking a pair of shoulders that are visibly insignificant.

    I was looking through them and the honor guard shoulders for instance are just arm guards and don't even have anything on the shoulder. Though you have to do black rose to get them - which isn't as accessible as some of the other content.
  • CompletelyToast
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    Jeremy wrote: »
    I want this added so bad for the outfit system. Some motifs look great without shoulders.

    In the meantime you may could try picking a pair of shoulders that are visibly insignificant.

    I was looking through them and the honor guard shoulders for instance are just arm guards and don't even have anything on the shoulder. Though you have to do black rose to get them - which isn't as accessible as some of the other content.

    Yeah I’m trying to find a good shoulder for the Fanglair Chests
  • mague
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    BretonMage wrote: »
    Yes. And hip flaps, or tassets, or whatever they're called.

    Cant hide them. They are part of the chest. Those are a design decision. You can only ask for more motifs with less significant hip protectors :)
  • Ildun
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    One thing I love Diablo 3 is, they have invisible dye :smiley:
  • Uryel
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    Yeah I’m trying to find a good shoulder for the Fanglair Chests

    Medium Mercenary is one shoulder only, and rather small. And for that specific armor, may I suggest Daggerfall Covenant ? Medium, I believe, not entirely sure. Small metal-looking pads that fit pretty well with the metal part of the fang lair chest.
  • CompletelyToast
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    Uryel wrote: »
    Yeah I’m trying to find a good shoulder for the Fanglair Chests

    Medium Mercenary is one shoulder only, and rather small. And for that specific armor, may I suggest Daggerfall Covenant ? Medium, I believe, not entirely sure. Small metal-looking pads that fit pretty well with the metal part of the fang lair chest.

    I’ll definitely check those out when I log back in
  • MickeyBN
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    You guys wanna hear a secret.

    Most Crown store Costumes don’t have shoulders or hip flaps.

    ZOS won’t ever allow us to hide hip flaps or shoulders because then there will be no incentive to purchase the costumes.
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  • Kalgert
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    We already know ZOS has a Dev Build where there's a Hide Option for all armor slots. But this build is like over a year old and I don't know why they won't put it Live.
    Because they hate us.
  • Vermethys
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    If anything, both shoulders and belts should be optional. More often than not they look very odd, floaty, and out-of-place.
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  • AcadianPaladin
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    While I agree that hiding shoulders (and any other slot) would be wonderful, I'd be happy to, in the interim, see a very unobtrusive easy to get shoulder option like a single narrow arm band on the left arm. I've looked at all shoulder options (including ones I don't have) and use one of the less obtrusive ones but would prefer something even less visible.
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  • AWinterWolf
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    I would love to be able to hide specific armour pieces, since shoulders look horrible, not found a single one I actually like
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  • MehrunesFlagon
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    Shoulder pieces should not exist.
  • Kalik_Gold
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    Sapiarch Light shoulders when dyed to match the chest, almost looks like no shoulders. This is due to how they sit on the side of the arms instead of on top of the shoulders. It works on a lot of bulky chest armor... possibly won't on some items.

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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • Nestor
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    Taesci (spelling) Light Shoulders are more Upper Arm Bands and pretty much dissapear into the outfit if they are dyed right. Anyway, almost all my characters have that shoulder just so I don't have to look at them anymore
    Edited by Nestor on June 13, 2019 4:31PM
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  • Delsanab14_ESO
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    And belt, the new prophet outfit is unusable as the belt just floats and isn't removable.
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Taesci (spelling) Light Shoulders are more Upper Arm Bands and pretty much dissapear into the outfit if they are dyed right. Anyway, almost all my characters have that shoulder just so I don't have to look at them anymore

    Not available in the crown store right now, also costs crowns not the best recommendation.
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  • BretonMage
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    mague wrote: »
    BretonMage wrote: »
    Yes. And hip flaps, or tassets, or whatever they're called.

    Cant hide them. They are part of the chest. Those are a design decision. You can only ask for more motifs with less significant hip protectors :)

    Terrible design decision though. I know that traditionally heavy armour cuirasses may have come with tassets, but they should not have included them for light vests and robes.
  • Blackwing_Soul
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    Ildun wrote: »
    Agree, better yet options to hide any and all part of body.

    I want to hide my head and left foot below the ankle. Thanks. :)
  • HiLyfe808
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    I agree with the shoulders. Also the hip armor really ruins a lot of chest pieces. They have nice designs and certain pieces that just messes it up.
  • EvilAutoTech
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    Would love some short shorts to show off skins and full body tats. Hate the towel costume. Not a big fan of skirts, either.
  • ghastley
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    BretonMage wrote: »
    mague wrote: »
    BretonMage wrote: »
    Yes. And hip flaps, or tassets, or whatever they're called.

    Cant hide them. They are part of the chest. Those are a design decision. You can only ask for more motifs with less significant hip protectors :)

    Terrible design decision though. I know that traditionally heavy armour cuirasses may have come with tassets, but they should not have included them for light vests and robes.

    And they didn't stop there: this is a gown.

    Ancestral-Homage-Formal-Gown-Female-Front.jpg

    You can tell from the cleavage that it's intended for combat.
  • Vlad9425
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    Why stop there though? Let us hide any armor slot we want. It would make for so many cool appearance options.
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