The inevitable real life Elder Scrolls religion.

Casowen

We have Matrixism, we Have Jediism, we have any number of UFO religions, Tolkienism, Hyperianism, marilyn mansonism, scientology, Kopimism, so when are people going to start organizing Daedra worship, or worshiping the Nine Divines? I used to say "By the Nine" awhile ago just as an alternative to otherwise foul language, and it actually worked when I would normally blurt out something 4 lettered. That has since faded, but looking back at that has me wonder that since there are any number of literary/movie/media based religious movements, then why has the elder scroll for as popular as it is completely evaded it? Its completely ripe for it, and at the very least some "pun/mock" religion can come off of it like the flying speghetti monster, or Kopimism. So will this really ever come, or is it just a moot idea? Considering how so many popular movies for instance have gotten this, it doesnt seem far off. I really just see it has a sort of mock religion like matrixism, but some can get serious like jediism.

I suppose for many, the elder scrolls is already a religion. Skyrim mods are vast and open ended like every elder scrolls game, and eso like many mmo's are a manner by which people live their lives, which mmo's are a point of infamy for. You can even get married in a game either in game or real life. https://comicbook.com/gaming/2019/02/24/real-life-final-fantasy-xiv-wedding-service-japan/

myskyrim26

TES is a pretty old game series. Started in 1995, I believe? Yet we don't have real life Mehrunez cultists trying to make an earthquake in the town square, do we?

Mivryna

TES draws a lot of its philosophical underpinnings from Hinduism. I always found TES and Hinduism to be beautiful ideas, but until recently I felt like I couldn't believe in such things because of a lack of evidence. However between the concept of retrocausality in quantum physics and recent experiments demonstrating the effects of conscious focus on particle paths, I've become much more open-minded to the idea of consciousness as a relevant force in the universe.

I see gods as subgradients of some greater consciousness, and I view Elder Scrolls gods as being just as legitimate as any other. Just as multiple TES gods can share an oversoul, I view gods such as Loki and Sheogorath as being two forms of a very real notion.

max_only

The aspect of Loki is closer to Clavicus Vile imho. “Trickster gods” are a staple of global imagination

Mivryna

max_only wrote: »

The aspect of Loki is closer to Clavicus Vile imho. “Trickster gods” are a staple of global imagination

That's fair, I don't actually know much about Norse gods.

myskyrim26

The Eight + one are flat and boring. Venus/Aphrodite is more interesting and... more real than Dibella. If I'd want to worship the goddes of beauty, I'd choose Venus/Aphrodite, not her abstract digital version, Dibella.

The afterlife concept is unreal. One has to be a Nord to go to Sovngarde, a Khajiit to go to Warm Sands. In real life there are no Khajiit or Nords, so, no Sovngarde, no Warm Sands.

The daedra may seem attractive. Yet they are attractive in game because they interact with the world. Your character can summon them, make a deal with them, or try to defeat. In real life you can't summon even a scamp, no matter how hard you try.

So, why making aedra or daedra a real life religion? Not a single reason...

phaneub17_ESO

myskyrim26 wrote: »

The Eight + one are flat and boring. Venus/Aphrodite is more interesting and... more real than Dibella. If I'd want to worship the goddes of beauty, I'd choose Venus/Aphrodite, not her abstract digital version, Dibella.

No thanks, her kid is super messed up making random people and animals fall in love with each other, and if you *** him off he goes full demon on you... literally.

Deep_01

TES universe origins are derived based on Sumerian mythologies of origin of universe. Check them out.

Ye_Olde_Crowe

myskyrim26 wrote: »

In real life you can't summon even a scamp, no matter how hard you try.

Hmmmm... so did you try to summon a Scamp and it didn't work, or did you not try to summon a Scamp because you assumed it wouldn't work?
When I go outside the next time I will try to summon a Scamp and post the results here.
Though I wonder if the Scamp and my doggo would get along...

myskyrim26

Ye_Olde_Crowe wrote: »

myskyrim26 wrote: »

In real life you can't summon even a scamp, no matter how hard you try.

Hmmmm... so did you try to summon a Scamp and it didn't work, or did you not try to summon a Scamp because you assumed it wouldn't work?
When I go outside the next time I will try to summon a Scamp and post the results here.
Though I wonder if the Scamp and my doggo would get along...

No, never tried to summon a scamp. You see, I have two terrible beasts who want to kill everything they see. Sometimes I think they want to kill me, also. Two Thai cats. Crazy males. A scamp would have no chance to survive, if summoned.

KyraCROgnon

do you get to sacrifice company reps to daedric princes to improve server performances ?

Ildun

max_only wrote: »

The aspect of Loki is closer to Clavicus Vile imho. “Trickster gods” are a staple of global imagination

Clavicus Vile is Prince of Bargain, not trickster. The one Prince which close to trickster is Sheogorath...but he is mad

So far, only Rajhin has the title of trickster god. Then again, he has Dissociative Identity Disorder

ArchMikem

Isnt it just paganism? Worship of the natural gods?

max_only

Ildun wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

The aspect of Loki is closer to Clavicus Vile imho. “Trickster gods” are a staple of global imagination

Clavicus Vile is Prince of Bargain, not trickster. The one Prince which close to trickster is Sheogorath...but he is mad

So far, only Rajhin has the title of trickster god. Then again, he has Dissociative Identity Disorder

Sheo is more chaos vs order. While Loki creates trouble, he’s not insane. Anyway it’s not a 1 to 1 analogy. There are aspects of universal archetypes in every mythos.

Ravena

TES fake gods would be a lot less boring than our current fake gods

PrayingSeraph

TES deities are often inspired by numerous real life religions and mythologies. Everything from Abrahamic to pagan to demons.

Alas this thread will likely get locked

SantieClaws

Who needs to worry about temples in the game of Outside World when there is so much of interest in Tamriel?

Install Essential Housing Tools, look at the houses set as 'open'. Some of them are temples.

So put on some suitable robes, pack some candles and incense and pay a few of them a visit no. It's a good thing to do for the soul sometimes, even if some of us in Tamriel are missing that soul from time to time ...

In a totally not related co-incidence this one hopes to have the ruins of the Claws Family Temple made safe for visitors by the weekend.

Claws Temple Spa Resort of course remains open to all as usual.

May bright moons guide you - whichever path you walk on!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

BomblePants

I’ve never had to google so many things from reading one thread before.....

Faulgor

There's not really any specific practice associated with worshipping Daedra or Aedra that you could transfer into our reality.
I think the best shot are the 6 Walking Ways.

I'm building another Numidium as we speak.

Uryel

myskyrim26 wrote: »

The afterlife concept is unreal. One has to be a Nord to go to Sovngarde, a Khajiit to go to Warm Sands. In real life there are no Khajiit or Nords, so, no Sovngarde, no Warm Sands.

Not so long ago, real life nords believed they would go to Valhalla. Sovngarde in Skyrim closely ressemble depictions of Valhalla, by the way. Pretty sure some real life nords still believe in that, actually.

We have a large variety of cultural beliefs in our world, some more or less tied to ethnicity. I mean, if you're a white person born in a christian county, chances are good that if you're gonna pick a belief, it's gonna be christianism. You do have the choice to pick another, though, but it seldom happens. Other places may not have that chance, depending on how harshly the official belief is being enforced.

The only difference between our world and Nirn is that our belief system is cultural while it is indeed strictly racial on Nirn. So far. It seems they don't get a choice. I'd love to see a quest where a Khajiit (or redguard, or whatever) wants to make sure they are going to reach Sovngard when they die.

There is actually another difference : in our world, every belief is so very sure they are the only one that is right and all others are going to whatever hell they have, while on Nirn everyone is right.

MartiniDaniels

Arrow-in-knee-ism is quite widespread from 2011, no?

Runefang

Is there really any ‘religion’ based on a game yet? Books seem to be easier to do that with since they leave so much open to interpretation that you get to pick and choose the elements you like....

zaria

This one prefer to keep it in game

Saucy_Jack

Everyone knows the true religion of ESO is Snugglorrism; all hail Snugglorr the Magnificent, King of the RNG!

mague

Runefang wrote: »

Is there really any ‘religion’ based on a game yet? Books seem to be easier to do that with since they leave so much open to interpretation that you get to pick and choose the elements you like....

Oh yes. The older players know how certain dogmas appeared since UO.

There are the high priests of the elitist raid Paradigm.
There are the 1 equals 0 PvP fanatics
There are the seekers of the holy min-max grail
There are the casual rejecting cultists of St. Meme
There is the secret society of PGG. also know as PK, grief and gank

bmnoble

nah I already have my religion

I Am One With the Force and the Force Is With Me :P

Casowen

myskyrim26 wrote: »

TES is a pretty old game series. Started in 1995, I believe? Yet we don't have real life Mehrunez cultists trying to make an earthquake in the town square, do we?

Who says we dont

Mivryna

I've been wearing a charm of Azura's Star lately, for luck in getting through some hard times.

SirAndy

Casowen wrote: »

The inevitable real life Elder Scrolls religion

Why would that be inevitable?

max_only

Runefang wrote: »

Is there really any ‘religion’ based on a game yet? Books seem to be easier to do that with since they leave so much open to interpretation that you get to pick and choose the elements you like....

Not on a game yet, but Star Wars has a real life religion.

Noblis01

-isms, in my opinion, are not good.
A person should not belive in an -ism, he should believe in himself. ~Ferris Bueller

The Royal Navy recognized Satanism to be an actual religion.
And there are Jedi in the UK.

Let there not be The Church of Molag Bal.