Zos why do I spend so much money and I can't get the cat merchant and banker? It's Elsweyr themed

wishlist14

I have been positive throughout all of the changes etc but this upset me. I have subbed for years now and bought all the limited edition expansion/chapters, many notable homes, costumes etc ....as has my partner. I buy so much from you I'm going to go broke. But to do this to me?
I just bought limited edition Elsweyr and have crowns for upcoming house...i just bought an extra character slot for my 3rd necromancer. I wanted tank, healer and dd.
I bought the torch emote and the explorer costume too to go with this chapter. I had no idea about the new merchant and banker coming up.

These kitties would look great in my palace or new Elsweyr house but I cannot afford to give you more money for items that ...say server gets switched off all the goods I paid for are just on loan really or rented ....gone.

This has to be one of the most expensive games I have ever played. Please consider those of us that are long term, constant supporters of eso monetarily. We cant keep forking out so many $$$$$$.At least allow us that have the merchant and banker from before be able to have the kitties in our Elsweyr house. If it's doable.

I made this thread here because I needed to vent and I could not post in other subsection.

KMarble

wishlist14 wrote: »

At least allow us that have the merchant and banker from before be able to have the kitties in our Elsweyr house. If it's doable.

Took me while to understand what you were asking for. There is nothing stopping you from acquiring the new assistants. You can buy and place the new ones even if you already own the old ones.
From what I understand, you can even have all 4 in the same house.

chuck-18_ESO

Forgive me, but the tone of this post is grossly entitled. Do you also feel entitled to all of the reskins of other mounts after buying a certain amount? Or every notable home after buying a certain amount? That's simply not how any of this works.

Yes, the merchants are expensive, but they're also a matter of pure convenience. The more people who own bankers and merchants, the less populated the world becomes, and the emptier it feels.

It sounds like if you simply saved a few more Crowns instead of constantly splurging, you'd have plenty to buy the new merchants with. If you enjoy buying multiple expensive homes, personalities, emotes, etc etc, then great! But don't complain about it after the fact.

wishlist14

I am entitled because I pay so much money. Grossly? No. I am a very generous, empathic, friendly human being who is actually minimalist in real life. I am an animal activist and I do what i can to look after our planet. It is not in my nature to be gross. This game is pixals...it shouldnt be this expensive.


Still thank you for your reply. You have a right to your opinion😊

wishlist14

KMarble wrote: »

wishlist14 wrote: »

At least allow us that have the merchant and banker from before be able to have the kitties in our Elsweyr house. If it's doable.

Took me while to understand what you were asking for. There is nothing stopping you from acquiring the new assistants. You can buy and place the new ones even if you already own the old ones.
From what I understand, you can even have all 4 in the same house.

I know, I like many other pkayer want the khajiit ones but they are too expensive when really we just want the skins.

Ashaerien

"wishlist14 wrote: »

I have subbed for years now and bought all the limited edition expansion/chapters, many notable homes, costumes etc ....as has my partner. I buy so much from you I'm going to go broke. But to do this to me?

Please consider those of us that are long term, constant supporters of eso monetarily. We cant keep forking out so many $$$$$$.

I don't understand why you think your loyalty to the brand and how much money you've spent makes you think they should lower the price, give items out for free, or do anything targeted towards you. It's a little that you think they're targeting 'you' specifically.

If you want it, buy it. If you don't want to buy it, then don't. You already have a banker and a merchant, the functionality is the exact same. If you want the cat skins so bad... then buy it. Otherwise, don't blame the company for the fact that you keep dumping money into their game.

Edit: misquote

Dusk_Coven

wishlist14 wrote: »

I know, I like many other pkayer want the khajiit ones but they are too expensive when really we just want the skins.

So I think what you are also saying is that ZOS has hit on a fantastic product that probably got tons of people opening their wallets in the very first half-hour it was available. And I really don't doubt that is true. Just the fact that you feel frustrated at not being able to have it right away speaks to how attractive this product is to a certain demographic.

Which, unfortunately, also means they would be foolish to give it away for free or too cheaply.

For those who don't want to use that many Crowns there are at least two options:
- Wait for a discount. That's what I did before getting Tythis and Nuzzie.
- Get it gifted to you. Not that hard to find reputable sellers (e.g., World Crown Exchange discord) and if you've played a while you know how to stockpile enough gold to do it. 10,000 Crowns at even a horrid rate of 200 gold per is not that hard to raise unless your timeline is "overnight'.

RANKK7

OP, then don't give them money, find someone in your guilds gifting crowns and pay for items with gold.
Though I agree they should have some kind of consideration for who spent and continue to spend a lot on their products, like in the case of the banker and merchant cats, could have been skins for who already owned basic banker and merchant (most expensive items).

edited to better explain what I think on the matter

Tigerseye

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

So I think what you are also saying is that ZOS has hit on a fantastic product that probably got tons of people opening their wallets in the very first half-hour it was available. And I really don't doubt that is true.

I play all day (far too much!) in Elsweyr and Summerset mainly and have yet to see one of these kitty assistants.

Not one.

This is almost unheard of.

Every time there is a new mount, you see one or two of them, almost immediately.

I think this is due to the fact that most of the people who would like to buy them (and could otherwise afford them), have already bought the original banker and merchant, so have already bought the functionality.

So, are painfully aware that these amount to just skins.

I think there should be two prices.

One for people who have yet to buy the functionality of a banker and/or merchant and one for people who have.

xMovingTarget

So you buy crowns and spend it on things and then complain that you dont have any more crowns and money over to buy those 2 new banker and merchant NPCs? Is that what you are saying?

Well, you should have made a wiser decision on how to spend your crowns.

Tigerseye

chuck-18_ESO wrote: »

Forgive me, but the tone of this post is grossly entitled. Do you also feel entitled to all of the reskins of other mounts after buying a certain amount? Or every notable home after buying a certain amount? That's simply not how any of this works.

Yes, the merchants are expensive, but they're also a matter of pure convenience. The more people who own bankers and merchants, the less populated the world becomes, and the emptier it feels.

It sounds like if you simply saved a few more Crowns instead of constantly splurging, you'd have plenty to buy the new merchants with. If you enjoy buying multiple expensive homes, personalities, emotes, etc etc, then great! But don't complain about it after the fact.

Mounts are also reskins (once you have one of the species), but very few mounts cost 5000 Crowns each.

Also, the entire point of this complaint is that the OP already has a banker and merchant, so bringing the "empty world" argument into this is totally irrelevant.

Especially when the obvious answer would be to offer them at two different price points, depending on whether they offered you a new function, or just a skin (and an additional house furnishing).

OP, just ignore the trolls.

Some of them even admit they are trolls in polls on the subject.

Troll polls, lol.

Tigerseye

xMovingTarget wrote: »

So you buy crowns and spend it on things and then complain that you dont have any more crowns and money over to buy those 2 new banker and merchant NPCs? Is that what you are saying?

Well, you should have made a wiser decision on how to spend your crowns.

Careful, your envy is showing.

xMovingTarget

Tigerseye wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

So you buy crowns and spend it on things and then complain that you dont have any more crowns and money over to buy those 2 new banker and merchant NPCs? Is that what you are saying?

Well, you should have made a wiser decision on how to spend your crowns.

Careful, your envy is showing.

IzzyStardust

wishlist14 wrote: »

I am entitled because I pay so much money. Grossly? No. I am a very generous, empathic, friendly human being who is actually minimalist in real life. I am an animal activist and I do what i can to look after our planet. It is not in my nature to be gross. This game is pixals...it shouldnt be this expensive.


Still thank you for your reply. You have a right to your opinion😊

It’s 2mil in game gold at most; buy it with in game gold and call it a day.

IzzyStardust

Tigerseye wrote: »

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

So I think what you are also saying is that ZOS has hit on a fantastic product that probably got tons of people opening their wallets in the very first half-hour it was available. And I really don't doubt that is true.

I play all day (far too much!) in Elsweyr and Summerset mainly and have yet to see one of these kitty assistants.

Not one.

This is almost unheard of.

Every time there is a new mount, you see one or two of them, almost immediately.

I think this is due to the fact that most of the people who would like to buy them (and could otherwise afford them), have already bought the original banker and merchant, so have already bought the functionality.

So, are painfully aware that these amount to just skins.

I think there should be two prices.

One for people who have yet to buy the functionality of a banker and/or merchant and one for people who have.

Had both; rebought both with in game gold. They are adorable and I often use one as a non combat pet. So there.

Veinblood1965

Why not make the gold in game and trade for crowns? Even just part time trading is quick gold.

Ashaerien

Tigerseye wrote: »

chuck-18_ESO wrote: »

Forgive me, but the tone of this post is grossly entitled. Do you also feel entitled to all of the reskins of other mounts after buying a certain amount? Or every notable home after buying a certain amount? That's simply not how any of this works.

Yes, the merchants are expensive, but they're also a matter of pure convenience. The more people who own bankers and merchants, the less populated the world becomes, and the emptier it feels.

It sounds like if you simply saved a few more Crowns instead of constantly splurging, you'd have plenty to buy the new merchants with. If you enjoy buying multiple expensive homes, personalities, emotes, etc etc, then great! But don't complain about it after the fact.

Mounts are also reskins (once you have one of the species), but very few mounts cost 5000 Crowns each.

Also, the entire point of this complaint is that the OP already has a banker and merchant, so bringing the "empty world" argument into this is totally irrelevant.

Especially when the obvious answer would be to offer them at two different price points, depending on whether they offered you a new function, or just a skin (and an additional house furnishing).

OP, just ignore the trolls.

Some of them even admit they are trolls in polls on the subject.

Troll polls, lol.

Point is, when there are reskins of mounts you don't see very many (if at all) people complaining about how much money they spend because they can't manage properly, thus demanding that ZoS owes them a free/discounted reskin because they 'already have it, but this one is better'.

If I already have an older car and a newer one comes out (same model), am I going to go to the dealership and demand for the new one? They do the same thing... drive from point a to b... that's basically how this sounds.

Tigerseye

IzzyStardust wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

So I think what you are also saying is that ZOS has hit on a fantastic product that probably got tons of people opening their wallets in the very first half-hour it was available. And I really don't doubt that is true.

I play all day (far too much!) in Elsweyr and Summerset mainly and have yet to see one of these kitty assistants.

Not one.

This is almost unheard of.

Every time there is a new mount, you see one or two of them, almost immediately.

I think this is due to the fact that most of the people who would like to buy them (and could otherwise afford them), have already bought the original banker and merchant, so have already bought the functionality.

So, are painfully aware that these amount to just skins.

I think there should be two prices.

One for people who have yet to buy the functionality of a banker and/or merchant and one for people who have.

Had both; rebought both with in game gold. They are adorable and I often use one as a non combat pet. So there.

Yeah, I've still only seen one, so far (the merchant).

PC/EU.

Tigerseye

The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Simply not seeing these around (yet).

wishlist14

Ashaerien wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

chuck-18_ESO wrote: »

Forgive me, but the tone of this post is grossly entitled. Do you also feel entitled to all of the reskins of other mounts after buying a certain amount? Or every notable home after buying a certain amount? That's simply not how any of this works.

Yes, the merchants are expensive, but they're also a matter of pure convenience. The more people who own bankers and merchants, the less populated the world becomes, and the emptier it feels.

It sounds like if you simply saved a few more Crowns instead of constantly splurging, you'd have plenty to buy the new merchants with. If you enjoy buying multiple expensive homes, personalities, emotes, etc etc, then great! But don't complain about it after the fact.

Mounts are also reskins (once you have one of the species), but very few mounts cost 5000 Crowns each.

Also, the entire point of this complaint is that the OP already has a banker and merchant, so bringing the "empty world" argument into this is totally irrelevant.

Especially when the obvious answer would be to offer them at two different price points, depending on whether they offered you a new function, or just a skin (and an additional house furnishing).

OP, just ignore the trolls.

Some of them even admit they are trolls in polls on the subject.

Troll polls, lol.

Point is, when there are reskins of mounts you don't see very many (if at all) people complaining about how much money they spend because they can't manage properly, thus demanding that ZoS owes them a free/discounted reskin because they 'already have it, but this one is better'.

If I already have an older car and a newer one comes out (same model), am I going to go to the dealership and demand for the new one? They do the same thing... drive from point a to b... that's basically how this sounds.

It's not like that. How rude are you!!! You could only ever get the one merchant and one banker. After many expansions they get old tbh. With mounts it's totally different because there are many mou ts and they dont go in your house. The cats are elsweyr themed. So if you buy a house would you then buy the same house with same layout or floor plan but different skin? I think not.

wishlist14

xMovingTarget wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

xMovingTarget wrote: »

So you buy crowns and spend it on things and then complain that you dont have any more crowns and money over to buy those 2 new banker and merchant NPCs? Is that what you are saying?

Well, you should have made a wiser decision on how to spend your crowns.

Careful, your envy is showing.

Nice teeth😆😆😆😆

Tigerseye

Yeah, nice teeth, no brain...

Ashaerien

wishlist14 wrote: »

Ashaerien wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

chuck-18_ESO wrote: »

Forgive me, but the tone of this post is grossly entitled. Do you also feel entitled to all of the reskins of other mounts after buying a certain amount? Or every notable home after buying a certain amount? That's simply not how any of this works.

Yes, the merchants are expensive, but they're also a matter of pure convenience. The more people who own bankers and merchants, the less populated the world becomes, and the emptier it feels.

It sounds like if you simply saved a few more Crowns instead of constantly splurging, you'd have plenty to buy the new merchants with. If you enjoy buying multiple expensive homes, personalities, emotes, etc etc, then great! But don't complain about it after the fact.

Mounts are also reskins (once you have one of the species), but very few mounts cost 5000 Crowns each.

Also, the entire point of this complaint is that the OP already has a banker and merchant, so bringing the "empty world" argument into this is totally irrelevant.

Especially when the obvious answer would be to offer them at two different price points, depending on whether they offered you a new function, or just a skin (and an additional house furnishing).

OP, just ignore the trolls.

Some of them even admit they are trolls in polls on the subject.

Troll polls, lol.

Point is, when there are reskins of mounts you don't see very many (if at all) people complaining about how much money they spend because they can't manage properly, thus demanding that ZoS owes them a free/discounted reskin because they 'already have it, but this one is better'.

If I already have an older car and a newer one comes out (same model), am I going to go to the dealership and demand for the new one? They do the same thing... drive from point a to b... that's basically how this sounds.

It's not like that. How rude are you!!! You could only ever get the one merchant and one banker. After many expansions they get old tbh. With mounts it's totally different because there are many mou ts and they dont go in your house. The cats are elsweyr themed. So if you buy a house would you then buy the same house with same layout or floor plan but different skin? I think not.

Okay so then...

buy it. Problem solved.

Illuvatarr

This thread smells of Millenial generation entitlement. As much as I want to think the original poster is not that way judging by their posts in this thread and may not realize they are doing it; they are basically asking for free stuff.

At no point did ZOS or any representative of ZOS to my knowledge promise you (or the General ESO community at large) that you could have a talking cat banker or merchant in your home. They have stated they will give you access to this intellectual property through purchase in the crown store. Just like everyone else. If you wish to have these items, they can be acquired there for 5,000 crowns per cat.

Countdownical

I agree with most others in this thread, I live on social benefit and my economy is VERY limited and sometimes i struggle to afford anything else than rent, food and other essential bills. A lot of months of my year, I have very limited extra money left that I can spend on clothes, social life and stuff like games. Some months I almost had debt collectors after me. But I wouldn't for once in my life ask a game or anything else for that matter, to give me free stuff just because I was loyal costumer for a long while and actually, now when I think about it.. They already provide ESO+ discounts occasionally. They also give us free houses, free costumes, crates etc as a small token for your contributions and dedication to the game..

How much more do you want? If you are low on funds to pay for the stuff you want, then be smart about your expenses. I love this game and decided to prioritize it for the stuff I want, hence I only buy clothes when really necessary, I only buy stuff i really need and I remove unnecessary expenses like Netflix and trying to find a cheaper cellphone deals etc to save money.

Have you already done all this? That's good, but then your next option will be either to find something to expand your income so you can buy all the Crown Store stuff you want, or limit the amount of crown store stuff you want. Do you really need all of it? Can some of them wait, until later when you have money? Example, I keep serious track of elderscrollsonline.com news feed, and follow the Crown Store showcase. That way I'm prepared for when stuff arrives. I write it down on a list and prepare my entire months expenses to be able to afford it. If I had a rough month and had to pay a lot, then i will have to sacrifice stuff.. or go for crown-trade-exchange like someone mentioned above me.

Despite my economical struggles, I own 85 % of the stuff in Crown Store currently and I own 107 mounts, 152 non-combat pets and 19 houses (not free ones) everything from notable to small inn rooms. It took a while to get that collection, but I'm just saying it's not impossible if you find those magical choices in your life. You might find me crazy since I have this collection, as it might be a hoarder warning, and that may be so. But I don't regret any of it. I rather spend money on something that has provided me with joy and friends for years and that I'm passionated about, than spending it on stuff that maybe would bring joy to others. And If I would ever regret ANYTHING in my collection, I would take a serious think over my future shopping choices.. Which I already have, since it's a good thing to do every once in a while.

A little tips tho - Those cat merchants are permanent for a long while, not limited date. It's not the end of the world if you don't buy it today, or even this month.. I prioritize stuff that's limited and only avaliable for a few days. I get them and let the permanent stuff wait until for example eso+ 1500 crowns comes in or when i have more money. And even if they are limited, they won't disappear forever. I've been in the game for a long time and there is not a lot of items that has never ever returned to us again, one way or another. As long as you keep track of the news feed for upcoming stuff, you'll be prepared for 'em.

If these suggestions didn't help you at all and you will never be able to afford it, then you simply have to accept the fact that your house will not be having these merchants. ESO doesn't owe you anything. Most stuff in crown store is pure cosmetics and convinient stuff anyway. Don't forget that. In a few 20+ years when the game is dead and gone since ages, those money will be wasted. How will you feel then? Was it worth spending so much money on it - or not?

Tigerseye

Illuvatarr wrote: »

This thread smells of Millenial generation entitlement. As much as I want to think the original poster is not that way judging by their posts in this thread and may not realize they are doing it; they are basically asking for free stuff.

At no point did ZOS or any representative of ZOS to my knowledge promise you (or the General ESO community at large) that you could have a talking cat banker or merchant in your home. They have stated they will give you access to this intellectual property through purchase in the crown store. Just like everyone else. If you wish to have these items, they can be acquired there for 5,000 crowns per cat.

...and your post smells of corporate shill.

Begone, apologist.

Tigerseye

Countdownical wrote: »

I agree with most others in this thread, I live on social benefit and my economy is VERY limited and sometimes i struggle to afford anything else than rent, food and other essential bills. A lot of months of my year, I have very limited extra money left that I can spend on clothes, social life and stuff like games. Some months I almost had debt collectors after me. But I wouldn't for once in my life ask a game or anything else for that matter, to give me free stuff just because I was loyal costumer for a long while and actually, now when I think about it.. They already provide ESO+ discounts occasionally. They also give us free houses, free costumes, crates etc as a small token for your contributions and dedication to the game..

How much more do you want? If you are low on funds to pay for the stuff you want, then be smart about your expenses. I love this game and decided to prioritize it for the stuff I want, hence I only buy clothes when really necessary, I only buy stuff i really need and I remove unnecessary expenses like Netflix and trying to find a cheaper cellphone deals etc to save money.

Have you already done all this? That's good, but then your next option will be either to find something to expand your income so you can buy all the Crown Store stuff you want, or limit the amount of crown store stuff you want. Do you really need all of it? Can some of them wait, until later when you have money? Example, I keep serious track of elderscrollsonline.com news feed, and follow the Crown Store showcase. That way I'm prepared for when stuff arrives. I write it down on a list and prepare my entire months expenses to be able to afford it. If I had a rough month and had to pay a lot, then i will have to sacrifice stuff.. or go for crown-trade-exchange like someone mentioned above me.

Despite my economical struggles, I own 85 % of the stuff in Crown Store currently and I own 107 mounts, 152 non-combat pets and 19 houses (not free ones) everything from notable to small inn rooms. It took a while to get that collection, but I'm just saying it's not impossible if you find those magical choices in your life. You might find me crazy since I have this collection, as it might be a hoarder warning, and that may be so. But I don't regret any of it. I rather spend money on something that has provided me with joy and friends for years and that I'm passionated about, than spending it on stuff that maybe would bring joy to others. And If I would ever regret ANYTHING in my collection, I would take a serious think over my future shopping choices.. Which I already have, since it's a good thing to do every once in a while.

A little tips tho - Those cat merchants are permanent for a long while, not limited date. It's not the end of the world if you don't buy it today, or even this month.. I prioritize stuff that's limited and only avaliable for a few days. I get them and let the permanent stuff wait until for example eso+ 1500 crowns comes in or when i have more money. And even if they are limited, they won't disappear forever. I've been in the game for a long time and there is not a lot of items that has never ever returned to us again, one way or another. As long as you keep track of the news feed for upcoming stuff, you'll be prepared for 'em.

If these suggestions didn't help you at all and you will never be able to afford it, then you simply have to accept the fact that your house will not be having these merchants. ESO doesn't owe you anything. Most stuff in crown store is pure cosmetics and convinient stuff anyway. Don't forget that. In a few 20+ years when the game is dead and gone since ages, those money will be wasted. How will you feel then? Was it worth spending so much money on it - or not?

With all due respect, you need to consider growing a backbone.

You're living in a corporatocracy.

idk

It is about choice and that is what Zos has offered us. Granted, it would have been nice if Zos sold them as skins for a lesser price, but they chose to do other wise. Again, it is about choice and that was theirs.

They are gambling that many players that want the cats will buy them all over again. Do not be surprised if Zos comes up with other designs though nothing could top the effects of kittens.

mateosalvaje

Luckily I found out about the new merchant and banker right before I was about to buy the old ones. I tend to horde my sub crowns, so I was able to get them both 😝

Hamfast

I think the OP is totally correct and he should be given more stuff free... if he does not get it he should rage quit...

But before you quit, can I has your stuff?

I have both sets of merchants and bankers, come to my primary house and you can see them (under the Jester Tent)

Tigerseye

No one's coming to your house to see your cats, Ham.

We're not getting into your van to stroke your puppies either...