5 years.

Asgari

It is currently June 7th 2019, it has been almost exactly 5 years to the day since Patch v1.2 (Left out of the 1.2 patch notes is the real cause of the lag since then. They moved a vast majority of calculations to the server side from the client side because of cheating. It was never implemented properly) went live June 2014. How is it possible that a game that has 13.5 million players has had 0 and when I say 0 I am not trying to be funny or rude but 0 improvements to Cyrodiil performance in regards to server latency and stability.

At my job if we had the latency that ZOS allows in cyrodiil our entire INF team would be let go. It is a total embarrassment for a company with this massive of a player base and revenue stream to allow the game to be run like this everyday for the last 5 years.

The excuses need to stop and real work put into resolving this. The first step should be a plan put in place and shared with the community and actual dates listed in it for tiers of fixing this MAJOR issue.

If it truly can not be fixed then please just tell us at this point. Its just sad and embarrassing after all this time nothing has changed.

Sincerely,
Asgari

A playing member of ESO since February 27, 2014.

Casowen

I am regretting not picking up ESO sooner. You should avhe seen swtor.

Banana

I wouldnt hold my breath

ArchMikem

5 years.

5 long years.

That's how long it took to take Harvest back.

PunkAben

I quess this 13.5 million players not are for real but it is the numbers of registered user and most of them dont play.
13.5 mill user !!!! yes sure any doing pvp can see how few who wanna play pvp
It has been a business to make cheat for TESO because Zenimax dont have the will or the abilities to do some about it.
It is not hard to find a lot size who will like to sell you cheating.
In pve people experience are pretty bugged, new bugs come with just a little change in the program, old bug come back again and again.
I dont belive so many play, i know more people who have stop then people who still play.

ManwithBeard9

Just wait until the remove AOE caps, that'll fix everything.

/s

Lyserus

You know, if you feel the same lag as ESO started, then that means ZOS have been improving performance and they are at least keeping up the pace with all the new players, new zones, battlegrounds etc in this 5 years

JAwtunes

Lyserus wrote: »

You know, if you feel the same lag as ESO started, then that means ZOS have been improving performance and they are at least keeping up the pace with all the new players, new zones, battlegrounds etc in this 5 years

Hi, EU player here. Pvp cp and nocp campaigns are literally unplayable now. Performance has significantly worsened, not kept pace.

Goregrinder

Sorry I couldn't hear you over the sound of crowns being dumped into my account.

SleepyTroll

Lyserus wrote: »

You know, if you feel the same lag as ESO started, then that means ZOS have been improving performance and they are at least keeping up the pace with all the new players, new zones, battlegrounds etc in this 5 years

They lowered player caps in campaigns. They haven't improved it at all. Cyrodill campaigns are supposed to be running on separate servers then whatever the *** you're talking about.

Oh, wait they did make some improvements. They removed pets and deer.

pattyLtd

Yea, performance is pathetic and not only in Cyrodiil.
Elsewyr seems to have brought back the pain of invisible enemies again like we had a long time ago for a while aswell.
Also super weird audio problems.

Everything just feels so slow and delayed now that i would really prefer to be reverted back to before Elsewyr.

Some of me hopes it is just because of the new chapter and that it will cool off soon but what a huge buzzkill always these weird old problems returning.

Dungeons are so laggy now that its hard to enjoy them at all and then when someone posts about it they get a link to how the troubleshoot their connection, [snip]

[edited for profanity bypass]

Kel

https://youtu.be/lXz4tC2zMe4
Cyrodiil

https://youtu.be/hVFgFaZ8Pr0
Dungeons and Overworld

PS4 pro...full wired connection...no throttle or bottlenecking from my connection.
I have only seen this issue with ESO, no other online game.

Xogath

Kel wrote: »

https://youtu.be/lXz4tC2zMe4
Cyrodiil

https://youtu.be/hVFgFaZ8Pr0
Dungeons and Overworld

PS4 pro...full wired connection...no throttle or bottlenecking from my connection.
I have only seen this issue with ESO, no other online game.

The visual lag you see is purely hardware bottlenecking.

Similar situations on my PC, in Cyrodiil, do not lag that badly. Granted, it's FAR from perfect, but isn't quite that bad. Aren't consoles still capped to 30 FPS anyway? I'm honestly unsure.

But anyway, as to the thread.. I totally agree.

Not just Cyrodiil, but the entire game is in dire need of performance help.

Weren't we told at one point that developers were going to, ultimately, implement the DirectX 12 API? I've not heard anything about that in ages.

Honestly, at this point, it would likely be easier for them to port the game to a current-gen Engine that had all the bells and whistles we all want: multicore/thread support native to the Engine (not added later as an afterthought..), HD visuals, DX12 (and Vulcan? perhaps) support, etc. etc. etc.

I've continually said this and will continue to say it.. but after this "year of the dragon" stuff, I'd GLADLY give up the next year of content updates to see this game running at a solid 100+FPS in every situation. Server latency needs to come down also; it's gone up by literally 30-33% since Elsweyr dropped. (From maintaining around 90-100ms to now maintaining 120-140 on average. Awesome!)

Asgari

The latency happening everyday is not from a low quality pc or ISP players using. The source of it is ESO and its infrastructure/code.

During prime time ill have 50+ fps is massive fights but 300+ latency and when not in fights its <90 latency and 120+ fps.

FPS is irrelevant in this. Its all about the latency causing issues. The game can looks amazing but if you are using skills and nothing is happening whats the point.

Dusk_Coven

I'm a newer player and just wondering if this is the same issue I'm having, which looks like random disconnects:

- I have the in-game fps and ping indicators on and ping doesn't go above around 150-160 unless I have just zoned in from somewhere. Even when suddenly it looks like I've hit huge lag that ultimately disconnects me in 30s to 2 mins.
- I can be literally doing nothing and suddenly I hit what looks like long lag or am suddenly disconnected back to login
- Sometimes I get infinite load on trying to login or zone
- When I am kicked out back to the login screen, sometimes I get multiple login errors trying to get back in: 108, 200, 201, 300, 301, 304, or no error code at all
- It can happen anywhere, doing anything. Like at Vivec accessing the banker. Or at a crafting station trying to interact with it. Just idling at the login screen, the game can suddenly no longer load Announcements, then a little while later, reconnect
- It doesn't happen all the time. Sometimes I can go a couple of hours without anything happening, sometimes I get 5, 10, even 20 in the space of one hour.

I have done the ZOS cut-and-paste troubleshooting steps multiple times. I have asked them to look into whether the game is detecting strange activity on my account and disconnecting me (which I understand can happen with some Addons).
I have reset my modem, connected my PC directly to my modem, talked to my ISP.

Nothing is helping so far and it's looking like ZOS customer support has hit a dead end with what else to suggest.

SteveCampsOut

The game works perfectly fine for me. All I do is PVE all day long. Maybe they just need to get rid of PVP. That'd fix everything!

Jaimeh

It's a pity because the combat is so fast-paced and reactive, but we can't enjoy it or make the most of it when there are performance issues.

ArchMikem

Im almost certain most of you with PvP complaints would see massive improvement if you just got your butts out of the 30 day campaign and into the 7 day.

leepalmer95

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

The game works perfectly fine for me. All I do is PVE all day long. Maybe they just need to get rid of PVP. That'd fix everything!

Yet it lags in pve, at least in end game pve.

Edziu

ArchMikem wrote: »

Im almost certain most of you with PvP complaints would see massive improvement if you just got your butts out of the 30 day campaign and into the 7 day.

yep, if everyone will go from 30 day to 7 day campaign then ofc 30day campaigns woulde have peace etc because all lag from this have moved into 7day campaign along with all those players

MartiniDaniels

Bhaal5 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

The game works perfectly fine for me. All I do is PVE all day long. Maybe they just need to get rid of PVP. That'd fix everything!

Yet it lags in pve, at least in end game pve.

[snip]

There are clearly like 10-20 persons on forum who like everything no matter what, ready to buy anything from crown store, don't have performance issues etc.. it's not hard to guess where are they working honestly saying working in telecom and seeing occasional negative post about my company, I often will stop and write something to defend it though nobody will pay me extra for this.

[edited to remove quote]

Kikazaru

Can’t wait for the “6, 7, 8, 9, 10 years.” versions of these thread because my confidence in zos is at the bottom of the barrel regarding pvp by now.

ArchMikem

Kikazaru wrote: »

Can’t wait for the “6, 7, 8, 9, 10 years.” versions of these thread because my confidence in zos is at the bottom of the barrel regarding pvp by now.

And yet if the game lasts ten years its still a success.

huntgod_ESO

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Companies are set up for one thing:

"To make the MOST amount of profit with the LEAST amount of expenses"

I agree with the sentiment but the issue is that companies goals are actually to INCREASE profit with the least expense. These days large companies are considered failures if they are just profitable. They have to increase profitability and value no matter the expense. If you are faced with a plateau on incoming revenue, they do that by cannibalizing other parts of the company. It's a really *** mindset to be stuck in and is typically impossible to sustain. I see too many companies being forced into this paradigm.

Bhaal5

MartiniDaniels wrote: »

Bhaal5 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

The game works perfectly fine for me. All I do is PVE all day long. Maybe they just need to get rid of PVP. That'd fix everything!

Yet it lags in pve, at least in end game pve.

[snip]

There are clearly like 10-20 persons on forum who like everything no matter what, ready to buy anything from crown store, don't have performance issues etc.. it's not hard to guess where are they working honestly saying working in telecom and seeing occasional negative post about my company, I often will stop and write something to defend it though nobody will pay me extra for this.

Yeah eso has some interesting whales (big money spenders) its like they have never played another mmo people and only came from black ops or skyrim.

[edited to remove quote]

twev

Lyserus wrote: »

You know, if you feel the same lag as ESO started, then that means ZOS have been improving performance and they are at least keeping up the pace with all the new players, new zones, battlegrounds etc in this 5 years

I remember less lag and shorter loading screens in Cyrodiil when the game was released, and we had hordes of players there, plus deer in the fields.

It's gotten progressively worse, and there aren't 13.5 million people playing this game on anywhere near a regular basis.
Many don't play the game anymore, at all.
Many of that 13.5 million (no idea how many, but 'lots' of those are either bots farming, or bot accounts that were revoked).
Now take that 13.5 million and divide it up by PC/XboX/PS#, and further divide it by US/EU, and still further reduce it by the number of people who log off to sleep/work on occasion, and explain why the lag is still so bad in Cyrodiil when there are so many new areas of the DLCs to spread people over.