Account transfer from ps4 to pc

ArpamiesFin

I have 4,5 thousand hours play time in the game on ps4. I recently build my first gaming pc and was wondering if i could transfer my account from ps4 to pc?
Love the game, but i dont love it so much that i want to grind all the gear+cp all over again.

KappaKid83

Short answer is no, unfortunately you can not.

stpdmonkey

Zos claims that due to ps4 and xbox and PC all being on different servers you cannot transfer between. When the eso first came out on console you could transfer from PC to console with all your info. But that had been removed

ArpamiesFin

Zos come on, i will get the game on pc instant, if i could transfer my info.
Pretty please?

KappaKid83

Maybe with ESO being supported by Stadia coming in September it may become an option, no clue though.

kargen27

stpdmonkey wrote: »

Zos claims that due to ps4 and xbox and PC all being on different servers you cannot transfer between. When the eso first came out on console you could transfer from PC to console with all your info. But that had been removed

That was a one time offer because the console servers were fresh.

stpdmonkey

kargen27 wrote: »

stpdmonkey wrote: »

Zos claims that due to ps4 and xbox and PC all being on different servers you cannot transfer between. When the eso first came out on console you could transfer from PC to console with all your info. But that had been removed

That was a one time offer because the console servers were fresh.

That offer was because of the massive failure of PC launch and zos trying to get people to come back to the game. It definately helped but it would be nice to be able to transfer. In reality it shouldnt be too hard to transfer or to even make cross platform gaming a reality. I wouldnt want to play on console against PC with their mods. But as we all know if it doesnt make money dont do it.

Thorvik_Tyrson

I've seen this same question on the forums in other MMO's. From what the official responses actually state in the few responses that were actually given, the common theme seems to be "Legal Issues" are preventing the transfer of the data when dealing with transferring data between the owners of the consoles versus the individual MMO game that runs on the PC.

Good luck with your request!

shimm

As someone with pc and Xbox accounts I say forget account transfer... it’s 2019 I want to be able to play the same account on both platforms. Destiny is finally doing this and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear a lot of other games/companies announcing this at the upcoming (next week) E3... it would make sense for ZOS to do this with ESO being part of the google “Stadia” announcement.

ArpamiesFin

Maybe they will ad account transfer to crown store

kargen27

stpdmonkey wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

stpdmonkey wrote: »

Zos claims that due to ps4 and xbox and PC all being on different servers you cannot transfer between. When the eso first came out on console you could transfer from PC to console with all your info. But that had been removed

That was a one time offer because the console servers were fresh.

That offer was because of the massive failure of PC launch and zos trying to get people to come back to the game. It definately helped but it would be nice to be able to transfer. In reality it shouldnt be too hard to transfer or to even make cross platform gaming a reality. I wouldnt want to play on console against PC with their mods. But as we all know if it doesnt make money dont do it.

First problem that comes to mind is character names. There will be same names so switching servers would require name changes. That one is the easiest fix but it is only one problem with switching between active servers. Reason for the transfer really doesn't matter. They said when they offered the switch that it was a one time thing made possible because the console servers hadn't gone live yet.

Dagoth_Rac

The big problem is database keys. The various details in game are almost certainly not linked by character names but big gigantic numbers unique to each player. So your character named "Joe Schmo" might have character_id 67897895637. And that 67897895637 is all over the place linking what inventory belongs to you, what achievements, what quest progression, what mounts, what pets, what guilds, what friends, your guild trader listings, what daily rewards you have claimed, and on and on and on. There are probably dozens or hundreds of tables. Someone on another megaserver, regardless of their character name, probably has character_id 67897895637 on that megaserver. That causes conflicts. So you would not only have to give the transferred player a new character_id, but update all those related tables to have the new character_id. And I am sure there is also an account_id. And probably even more keys that are not obvious if we do not know details of database structure.

When ZOS were copying into empty databases at console launch, there was no worry about those database keys already existing and causing conflicts. So it was just a flat copy. Now it would be copy into some kind of temporary storage, generate new database keys that do not overlap with megaserver you are transferring into, reassign all the existing database keys to new database keys in that temporary storage, then copy from temporary storage and merge into megaserver you are transferring to. And all without messing up and having your items or other details suddenly appear or disappear or get duplicated because of database key errors or overlaps.

I am sure this is not impossible, but it is also not trivial. It is not just renaming a character. And it is a "high risk" change. The kinds of things that can go wrong are very serious.

Ohtimbar

It would be too customer-friendly. Can't have that.

stpdmonkey

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

The big problem is database keys. The various details in game are almost certainly not linked by character names but big gigantic numbers unique to each player. So your character named "Joe Schmo" might have character_id 67897895637. And that 67897895637 is all over the place linking what inventory belongs to you, what achievements, what quest progression, what mounts, what pets, what guilds, what friends, your guild trader listings, what daily rewards you have claimed, and on and on and on. There are probably dozens or hundreds of tables. Someone on another megaserver, regardless of their character name, probably has character_id 67897895637 on that megaserver. That causes conflicts. So you would not only have to give the transferred player a new character_id, but update all those related tables to have the new character_id. And I am sure there is also an account_id. And probably even more keys that are not obvious if we do not know details of database structure.

When ZOS were copying into empty databases at console launch, there was no worry about those database keys already existing and causing conflicts. So it was just a flat copy. Now it would be copy into some kind of temporary storage, generate new database keys that do not overlap with megaserver you are transferring into, reassign all the existing database keys to new database keys in that temporary storage, then copy from temporary storage and merge into megaserver you are transferring to. And all without messing up and having your items or other details suddenly appear or disappear or get duplicated because of database key errors or overlaps.

I am sure this is not impossible, but it is also not trivial. It is not just renaming a character. And it is a "high risk" change. The kinds of things that can go wrong are very serious.

That is probably the best explanation of why I have heard. Thank you. There are differences between systems also
The coding I'm sure has changes. Hence why we used to get alot more specific system patches. Now days it has evened out alot. It wouldnt suprise me if zos has cross platform gaming coming soon with the next consoles.

Taleof2Cities

stpdmonkey wrote: »

That offer was because of the massive failure of PC launch and zos trying to get people to come back to the game.

This isn’t even remotely true.

Don’t use complete falsehoods to support your argument.

stpdmonkey

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

stpdmonkey wrote: »

That offer was because of the massive failure of PC launch and zos trying to get people to come back to the game.

This isn’t even remotely true.

Don’t use complete falsehoods to support your argument.

They made a statement about why they were allowing it and doing it. Stating that due to problems with launch and among other things they were doing it. That is why I play on console. Not complete falsehood. My account on forums may be new but this is a game I have been following and reading about and watching since the start.

idk

stpdmonkey wrote: »

Zos claims that due to ps4 and xbox and PC all being on different servers you cannot transfer between. When the eso first came out on console you could transfer from PC to console with all your info. But that had been removed

It was not a transfer to consoles when it first came out. It was an account copy. The accounts were identical for that brief moment.

It was also not a matter of removing that copy feature because Zos never built it for copying to a live server. It is very different moving data to a live server than before it is live.

stpdmonkey

idk wrote: »

stpdmonkey wrote: »

Zos claims that due to ps4 and xbox and PC all being on different servers you cannot transfer between. When the eso first came out on console you could transfer from PC to console with all your info. But that had been removed

It was not a transfer to consoles when it first came out. It was an account copy. The accounts were identical for that brief moment.

It was also not a matter of removing that copy feature because Zos never built it for copying to a live server. It is very different moving data to a live server than before it is live.

You are very likely right on that. I only remember it being said as a transfer to console. And that the accounts would not continue as linked. I never did say your complete account would have been deleted from PC. Just that it got transfered to console.

srfrogg23

ArpamiesFin wrote: »

I have 4,5 thousand hours play time in the game on ps4. I recently build my first gaming pc and was wondering if i could transfer my account from ps4 to pc?
Love the game, but i dont love it so much that i want to grind all the gear+cp all over again.

Download the PSNow app on your PC and you will be able to play you PS4 ESO account on your PC that way.

Sylvermynx

Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

The big problem is database keys. The various details in game are almost certainly not linked by character names but big gigantic numbers unique to each player. So your character named "Joe Schmo" might have character_id 67897895637. And that 67897895637 is all over the place linking what inventory belongs to you, what achievements, what quest progression, what mounts, what pets, what guilds, what friends, your guild trader listings, what daily rewards you have claimed, and on and on and on. There are probably dozens or hundreds of tables. Someone on another megaserver, regardless of their character name, probably has character_id 67897895637 on that megaserver. That causes conflicts. So you would not only have to give the transferred player a new character_id, but update all those related tables to have the new character_id. And I am sure there is also an account_id. And probably even more keys that are not obvious if we do not know details of database structure.

When ZOS were copying into empty databases at console launch, there was no worry about those database keys already existing and causing conflicts. So it was just a flat copy. Now it would be copy into some kind of temporary storage, generate new database keys that do not overlap with megaserver you are transferring into, reassign all the existing database keys to new database keys in that temporary storage, then copy from temporary storage and merge into megaserver you are transferring to. And all without messing up and having your items or other details suddenly appear or disappear or get duplicated because of database key errors or overlaps.

I am sure this is not impossible, but it is also not trivial. It is not just renaming a character. And it is a "high risk" change. The kinds of things that can go wrong are very serious.

Yep. The number of issues that arise with just updates to small databases like phpBB3 and WordPress - lordy, and the game DB is proprietary, so.... ewwwww.

Major balls-up if something goes south, and I can say with perfect truth that having managed websites for years, something WOULD go south - which could cause a loss of all your account data on BOTH platforms. Not a good thing at all.

mairwen85

Anyone else getting a bit grumpy at saying the same thing over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, ad infinitum?

akl77

If you already have it on ps4 why move to pc to play it?

Sylvermynx

mairwen85 wrote: »

Anyone else getting a bit grumpy at saying the same thing over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, ad infinitum?

Yeah, a bit. But most people don't really have any information about/use of databases personally, so....

ArpamiesFin

akl77 wrote: »

If you already have it on ps4 why move to pc to play it?

I dont know.. better graphics, smoother gameplay and more than 10fps in cyrodiil comes to mind

Bhaal5

If you moved to pc, why play eso at all... So many better mmo's there that and more polished, better/more content and that have decent/acceptable ping

Unfadingsilence

ArpamiesFin wrote: »

I have 4,5 thousand hours play time in the game on ps4. I recently build my first gaming pc and was wondering if i could transfer my account from ps4 to pc?
Love the game, but i dont love it so much that i want to grind all the gear+cp all over again.

Nope sorry wont happen and I understand your frustration I have CP 1200 on xbox NA 15 max level crafters 10 toons with undaunted to rank 10 and almost every skin in the game all VMA weapons VDSA weapons and VBRP weapons a CP 400+ on EU over 15k hours played on NA and have spent somewhere around $5000+ on the game "sorry I like houses and crown crates" but they have said it many times it will never happen. You just have to do what we all have had to do and just start over

Bryath

stpdmonkey wrote: »

kargen27 wrote: »

stpdmonkey wrote: »

Zos claims that due to ps4 and xbox and PC all being on different servers you cannot transfer between. When the eso first came out on console you could transfer from PC to console with all your info. But that had been removed

That was a one time offer because the console servers were fresh.

That offer was because of the massive failure of PC launch and zos trying to get people to come back to the game. It definately helped but it would be nice to be able to transfer. In reality it shouldnt be too hard to transfer or to even make cross platform gaming a reality. I wouldnt want to play on console against PC with their mods. But as we all know if it doesnt make money dont do it.

They would definitely make money on account transfers. New sales of the game itself plus who knows what they could charge for it, in the crown store or otherwise. There must be either large technical issues or legal issues that make it not feasible.

ArpamiesFin

I take my statement back, i dont love the game. Hopped in last night for the first time in months only to see that my character is nerfed to the ground. The only "high value target" i could take down last night was the golden, and i had to pay 200k gold to do it.

ArpamiesFin

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz9uAOM4DHo