E3 EU TIMESLOT FAIL

marius_buys

I would like to know if the person or committee planning E3 time slots fully applied their mind to the scheduling of said?

1 - When you have an international client base you schedule events on a SATURDAY.

2 - If you have multiple servers used by Europe at GMT+2 you are at least cognisent of the fact that its perhaps not ideal to expect them to watch your live broadcast at 2:30am

3 - You also do NOT prescribe to the Twitch followers to log in at that time or not receive the reward offered.

It's probably the most insensitive scheduling I have ever seen, but having said that, I and many players in my guild will happily set our alarms to get up literally during the Witching hour to watch the broadcast but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD please could you put a post it on the event planners screen to remember that an entire server would really prefer a little consideration when it comes to us supporting Bethesda and ZOS.

Or did I miss something here?

January1171

To be fair, there are E3 events on Saturday. They started yesterday and continue through Tuesday. With such a huge conference like this, there are a lot of moving parts and a lot of people to cater to. All of the companies with press conferences have international followings. Bethesda likely had little to no say in their time slot, and because it's on the west coast all of the times are going to fit in with a PST schedule.

That being said, I would agree the requirements for Twitch drops are insensitive to followers in other time zones. It's not reasonable to expect players to watch the conference at 2:30 in the morning. Console players get a range of time they're able to sign it to the game- maybe a day long Bethesda stream on Twitch that you just have to watch 10 minutes of to get the drops? Something more flexible than a small span that ends up being unreasonable for players in other time zones.

Devanear

I don't think your expectations are realistic. It's not E3's responsibility to factor in any promotions their attendees might have into how they organize the schedule.

Acrolas

None of the viewing bonuses offered are uniquely exclusive to this stream event, and there won't be any TES6 news, either.

So you can sleep as usual and review the event at your convenience.

Kalgert

Bah, you're complaining about having to stay awake until 2:30 AM on a weekend?

How do you think I feel, knowing that I have to go to work even on weekends with an uncertainty of when I'm working next week? I'm practically sitting here wondering if I should get my dad to turn the stream on, assuming he'll be awake at that time.

marius_buys

January1171 wrote: »

To be fair, there are E3 events on Saturday. They started yesterday and continue through Tuesday. With such a huge conference like this, there are a lot of moving parts and a lot of people to cater to. All of the companies with press conferences have international followings. Bethesda likely had little to no say in their time slot, and because it's on the west coast all of the times are going to fit in with a PST schedule.

That being said, I would agree the requirements for Twitch drops are insensitive to followers in other time zones. It's not reasonable to expect players to watch the conference at 2:30 in the morning. Console players get a range of time they're able to sign it to the game- maybe a day long Bethesda stream on Twitch that you just have to watch 10 minutes of to get the drops? Something more flexible than a small span that ends up being unreasonable for players in other time zones.

Good answer, thanks

marius_buys

Kalgert wrote: »

Bah, you're complaining about having to stay awake until 2:30 AM on a weekend?

How do you think I feel, knowing that I have to go to work even on weekends with an uncertainty of when I'm working next week? I'm practically sitting here wondering if I should get my dad to turn the stream on, assuming he'll be awake at that time.

My arguement is based on the EU prime timeslot.

Jamdarius

Kalgert wrote: »

Bah, you're complaining about having to stay awake until 2:30 AM on a weekend?

How do you think I feel, knowing that I have to go to work even on weekends with an uncertainty of when I'm working next week? I'm practically sitting here wondering if I should get my dad to turn the stream on, assuming he'll be awake at that time.

Sorry to to say but are you even trying to think for second?

Sunday, June 9, at 8:30PM EDT for us it means it will be 2:30 AM on MONDAY
and just so you know 3h 30 min after it starts I have to go to work...

Ravereth

Jamdarius wrote: »

Kalgert wrote: »

Bah, you're complaining about having to stay awake until 2:30 AM on a weekend?

How do you think I feel, knowing that I have to go to work even on weekends with an uncertainty of when I'm working next week? I'm practically sitting here wondering if I should get my dad to turn the stream on, assuming he'll be awake at that time.

Sorry to to say but are you even trying to think for second?

Sunday, June 9, at 8:30PM EDT for us it means it will be 2:30 AM on MONDAY
and just so you know 3h 30 min after it starts I have to go to work...

Jamdarius, You probably require too much from him.

Svenja

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

Delpi

Svenja wrote: »

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

Not all countries. I work on monday as a lot of people.

Svenja

Delpi wrote: »

Svenja wrote: »

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

Not all countries. I work on monday as a lot of people.

That's why I wrote "several" and not "all".

A German community manager said on a twitch stream that they will maybe add those same rewards to a Gamescom Stream in August. Gamescom is in Cologne, stream will be at EU times. I wish they would just confirm that so people here can stop crying about the time of the E3 stream and can start whining about how Gamescom is during their summer holiday trip and they won't be able to watch it then, either.

Ravereth

Svenja wrote: »

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

You mean two countries - Belgium and Portugal, correct?
Thats two countries, only. And im not even sure that they have day off.

But i have some curiosity for You: We have 46 european countries. Shocked, right?!


Edit: Linked EU Holidays Calendar.

Tommy_The_Gun

Well... for me it is 2:30 Monday also... And I have to be at work at Monday...

So far I think I will set up my alarm clock, go to bed early, than wake up at 2:30 and watch the stream (I hope it will be 1 hour long only. 2 hours means It will end at 4:30 at night).

Then If I will have any hours left, I will try to go to sleep again. I think I dont have much choice at this point if I want those Crown Crates Crown Gems.

Btw. How long do we have to watch this stream to get a reward ? Do we have to watch it all ?

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Svenja

Ravereth wrote: »

Svenja wrote: »

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

You mean two countries - Belgium and Portugal, correct?
Thats two countries, only. And im not even sure that they have day off.

But i have some curiosity for You: We have 46 european countries. Shocked, right?!


Edit: Linked EU Holidays Calendar.

I am from Germany and my whole country has a holiday. What are you talking about? That calendar seems way off. Guildmates from Austria and Switzerland also have Monday off because of that holiday.

Still, more important: German community manager Kai Schober wrote that they will try to give those same twitch rewards for the Gamescom Tavern Stream in August. They did that last year.
That stream will be during EU times because it is from Cologne, a German city, and people can now start to cry how inconvenient a stream on a nice August day will be because they have other stuff to do then.

Cheezits94

@Ravereth what's more shocking is that apparently I have missed the birth of two new countries since last time I checked.
Also, that calendar is ridiculous, Monday is a national holiday here in the country where I work, that's not listed there, and my home country's most important national holiday (1st August) isn't even mentioned on that page.

Good thing that they try to add those rewards to the Gamescom Stream again, though. I watched that last year, it was a stream from their tavern event and it was amazing, they even had Malukah perform there and that was simply amazing and worth the watch.

Ravereth

Cheezits94 wrote: »

@Ravereth what's more shocking is that apparently I have missed the birth of two new countries since last time I checked.
Also, that calendar is ridiculous, Monday is a national holiday here in the country where I work, that's not listed there, and my home country's most important national holiday (1st August) isn't even mentioned on that page.

Dude, don't be worried, there is always the time to learn about EU countries. You can always catch up.
And you talking about Whit Monday, right? Info from that "ridiculous" calendar.
And this calendar is not outdated. Check it again, or even twice, if you need to.

Cheezits94

Ravereth wrote: »

Cheezits94 wrote: »

@Ravereth what's more shocking is that apparently I have missed the birth of two new countries since last time I checked.
Also, that calendar is ridiculous, Monday is a national holiday here in the country where I work, that's not listed there, and my home country's most important national holiday (1st August) isn't even mentioned on that page.

Dude, don't be worried, there is always the time to learn about EU countries. You can always catch up.
And you talking about Whit Monday, right? Info from that "ridiculous" calendar.
And this calendar is not outdated. Check it again, or even twice, if you need to.

@Ravereth i am talking about Whit Monday, yes. That is a national holiday in the country where I work right now (The Netherlands) and it is not listed. Also, it is a national holiday in other countries as well You even had a user answer to you that his whole nation (Germany) has a holiday on Monday and it is not listed there.
The calendar also fails to list Switzerland's most important national holiday on August 1st. No one in my home country is working on that day.
But sure, it's a good calendar LOL

Svenja

My country has a national holiday on Monday and there is no arguing about that, it is a fact. That makes that dumb calendar wrong, easy as that.
But could we stop talking about that dumb calendar now and come back to the topic? I am sorry for my snarky remark about several European countries having a day off, the world is not centered around me, you are all great, I love the world, praise the sun!

The stream is at 2:30 am my time, I will just leave it open on my laptop before going to sleep, that has worked just fine in the past. I know that that is too much for other people and ZOS is a mean company, because there seems to be the danger of being set to "Away" on Twitch and not receiving any drops (which I would consider a myth because I received drops regardless), and all those electrical bills skyrocketing because of a PC running overnight... So hopefully they will give out those rewards for their Gamescom Stream, as they did last year, and we will hopefully get confirmation on that soon.

Ravereth

Cheezits94 wrote: »

@Ravereth i am talking about Whit Monday, yes. That is a national holiday in the country where I work right now (The Netherlands) and it is not listed. Also, it is a national holiday in other countries as well You even had a user answer to you that his whole nation (Germany) has a holiday on Monday and it is not listed there.

I told you, check it again (or twice). IT IS listed.

Cheezits94

@Ravereth if it correctly lists all other countries as well, I guess you can take this back and admit you were wrong and as unable to read that calendar as I was:

Ravereth wrote: »

Svenja wrote: »

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

You mean two countries - Belgium and Portugal, correct?
Thats two countries, only.

(I am on mobile, so I see only two countries and I can't even click on the date to check for more because all that does is open popups and new windows lecturing me about the Christian origin of that day. Maybe it's better on PC)

Ravereth

Svenja wrote: »

My country has a national holiday on Monday and there is no arguing about that, it is a fact. That makes that dumb calendar wrong, easy as that.

Are you guys blind or just dumb?

marius_buys

Its not just Europe, It also happens to be the whole of Africa that runs on GMT +2

Cheezits94

Ah. That is not clickable on mobile, and it does not list the countries it applies to.
You yourself understood it as a holiday for only two countries. Or how am I to understand your post here:

Ravereth wrote: »

Svenja wrote: »

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

You mean two countries - Belgium and Portugal, correct?
Thats two countries, only.

marius_buys

Ravereth wrote: »

Svenja wrote: »

My country has a national holiday on Monday and there is no arguing about that, it is a fact. That makes that dumb calendar wrong, easy as that.

Are you guys blind or just dumb?

Not blind its just that the population affected by the holiday is insignificant compared to the whole of Europe and Africa which doesn't. Lucky for you tho.

Cheezits94

@Ravereth

Ravereth wrote: »

Svenja wrote: »

Well, good timing that Monday is a holiday in several European countries.

You mean two countries - Belgium and Portugal, correct?
Thats two countries, only.

Why do you say it is two countries only if your calendar apparently lists more countries? Are you blind or just dumb?

Ravereth

Cheezits94 wrote: »

Ah. That is not clickable on mobile, and it does not list the countries it applies to.
You yourself understood it as a holiday for only two countries. Or how am I to understand your post?

Its not my holiday, so i didnt know which country counts for this whit monday. Thats why i wrote only two countries.
But you know it is your holiday and you still trying to say ''dumb calendar, doesnt show my holiday - whit monday''.

Summarizing: 4 EU countries with holiday from 46 total.

Plus, like Marius_buys said, the whole Africa.

Nevermind. Svenja had right in one thing, too much offtopic.

Ravereth

marius_buys wrote: »

Not blind its just that the population affected by the holiday is insignificant compared to the whole of Europe and Africa which doesn't. Lucky for you tho.

Nah, not really lucky. Because i don't have holiday that monday. And i like holidays
Maybe next time.

MLGProPlayer

It's a Friday. How hard is it to stay up a few hours?

There are plenty of things that I want to watch that take place in EU or AUS time (like certain sporting events). Guess what? I stay up for them.

Ravereth

Cheezits94 wrote: »

Why do you say it is two countries only if your calendar apparently lists more countries? Are you blind or just dumb?

Well...

Svenja wrote: »

My country has a national holiday on Monday and there is no arguing about that, it is a fact. That makes that dumb calendar wrong, easy as that.

Cheezits94 wrote: »

(...)Also, that calendar is ridiculous, Monday is a national holiday here in the country where I work, that's not listed there (...)

@Cheezits94
And now you are trying to reverse the situation and insult me?
Grow up, dude.

Cheezits94

@Ravereth
What does that arrow show? Whit Monday. You said it was a holiday in two countries only. You have not admitted that that was wrong yet. You started to insult me AND another user with the words "are you blind or just dumb", AFTER that other user said that he was sorry for even mentioning a holiday in the first place. You are just plain rude and I wanted to mirror that.
I cannot even click on "Whit Monday" on that site to see where that even is a holiday.