The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
Well that's good to know, but from what I understand class reps seem to have limited interaction with devs, which never seemed too productive to me.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
Well that's good to know, but from what I understand class reps seem to have limited interaction with devs, which never seemed too productive to me.
Nah even the Notrious, I say differently. They can be forgrtful while occupied with big projects but they look at chat daily. Also they ask for different perspectives on things and data to back things. It's was bad in beginning, but they started listened a lot more near my end of my service.
In fact there's some changes that were more influence of class reps then devs. There's been issues but some class reps blew off steam telling there groups they weren't listening when situation was more complicated then that.
P.S for record my issue was with mangement and community manger x. Who drunk texted me their hatred for me. The devs do excellent job.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
Well that's good to know, but from what I understand class reps seem to have limited interaction with devs, which never seemed too productive to me.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
Well that's good to know, but from what I understand class reps seem to have limited interaction with devs, which never seemed too productive to me.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
Well that's good to know, but from what I understand class reps seem to have limited interaction with devs, which never seemed too productive to me.
Nah even the Notrious, I say differently. They can be forgrtful while occupied with big projects but they look at chat daily. Also they ask for different perspectives on things and data to back things. It's was bad in beginning, but they started listened a lot more near my end of my service.
In fact there's some changes that were more influence of class reps then devs. There's been issues but some class reps blew off steam telling there groups they weren't listening when situation was more complicated then that.
P.S for record my issue was with mangement and community manger x. Who drunk texted me their hatred for me. The devs do excellent job.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
Well that's good to know, but from what I understand class reps seem to have limited interaction with devs, which never seemed too productive to me.
The class rep program was a joke. I'm pretty sure Zos does what ever they feel like regardless of feedback.
This is how all MMO developers are. I've been part of a "class rep" program in another game where myself and a few other players interacted with developers on a daily basis through a skype chat and they ignored just about every one of our suggestions and sometimes would even do the opposite of what we suggested. Many of the developers in charge of making changes for specific classes didn't even regularly play those classes and in some cases had never pvp'd with them more than a few times. I've never met a game dev who could set their ego aside and admit that some players are in fact more knowledgeable and experienced than they are about certain things.
That's not how devs are in ESO.
Well that's good to know, but from what I understand class reps seem to have limited interaction with devs, which never seemed too productive to me.
I’ve participated in some things similar to class reps in other games too - WoW beta, Warhammer and Rift. Thing is the kind of player who has the time and motivation to participate can be really poor.
For example there’s sometimes ass kissers who say everything’s great in person, then tell all their friends everything negative.
Another example is I did a dungeon with some devs and players. One of the players LITTERALLY started crying about his class’ balance in mumble, he was in tears. I couldn’t believe it, *** was crazy. Told him maybe he should take a break from the game and put things in perspective.
Everyone has some bias in their opinions. It can be tough to sort through BS. I wouldn’t trust any class rep fully, never.
master_vanargand wrote: »All Class Reps should be fired.
master_vanargand wrote: »All Class Reps should be fired.
Can’t fire them, they ain’t employees.
master_vanargand wrote: »master_vanargand wrote: »All Class Reps should be fired.
Can’t fire them, they ain’t employees.
English teacher, please tell me the correct answer
master_vanargand wrote: »master_vanargand wrote: »All Class Reps should be fired.
Can’t fire them, they ain’t employees.
English teacher, please tell me the correct answer
They should terminate the class representative program