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Is there a stamina equivalent to double bloody mara?

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I searched in game and online, and can find no examples of a max stamina, max health golden food or drink. Am I missing something, or is this not in the game? Thank you in advance.

Edit: Added to clear confusion; With the release of Elsweyr Doubly Bloody Mara is now a superior version of a bi stat magicka and stamina food. I am just looking to see if there is a golden max stam, max health food in game. That's all :)
Edited by DocFrost72 on June 5, 2019 7:20PM

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  • IonicKai
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    Short answer is no there is not an equivalent at this time.

    In regards to those that are suggesting DCT is the best food for stam you are mistaken even when referring to Regen food as arteaum takeaway broth is stronger. That said with the nerfs to sustain foods a lot of stam are just leveraging the orcs naturally large health and stam pool and using that plus some attribute/ enchant change and lavafoot soup. It's actually pretty ridiculous that that is possible but it's better max offensive stat and Regen allowing for full light attack rotation (only orcs can really do this right now because they are a bit OP given all the offensive stats in addition to their max health boost).

    Edit: separated short answer from rest.
    Edited by IonicKai on June 5, 2019 8:13PM
    Answer ✓
  • Bouldercleave
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    Dubious Camoran Throne. Available as a recipe during the jester's festival I believe.



    Edited by Bouldercleave on June 5, 2019 6:51PM
  • Tasear
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    No maybe next Halloween
  • Beardimus
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    DCT is the thing you want.
    No one really runs Mara, just use it to get down a stage then back to the good stuff.
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  • DocFrost72
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    Dubious Camoran Throne. Available as a recipe during the jester's festival I believe.



    Dubious camoran throne is the stamina equivalent of witch mother's, which I already have. They buff regen, health, and stat.
    Beardimus wrote: »
    DCT is the thing you want.
    No one really runs Mara, just use it to get down a stage then back to the good stuff.

    DBM has more health and magicka than cp150 blue bistat food. If you intend to run bistat food and do not run DBM, you are giving up resources.

    I would prefer not to.
    Tasear wrote: »
    No maybe next Halloween

    We can hope.

    Thank you to all for answering, I am starting to suspect there is no stamina version of this golden food.
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    DCT is the thing you want.
    No one really runs Mara, just use it to get down a stage then back to the good stuff.

    Console, smh
  • Bouldercleave
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    DCT is the best Stamina one currently as far as I know. You can go with the Braised Rabbit and Spring Vegetables if you just wanted Max health and stam.


    Edited by Bouldercleave on June 5, 2019 7:08PM
  • DocFrost72
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    DCT is the best Stamina one currently as far as I know. You can go with the Braised Rabbit and Spring Vegetables if you just wanted Max health and stam.


    With Elsweyr, the values of food changed. Doubly Bloody Mara gives more resources than bi stat magicka and health food. I was just wondering if there was an equivalent golden food for stamina, because it would ideally just be a better max stat buff. I actually love Brasied Rabbit, but considering how inexpensive Mara is I was able to switch all my magic toons to it and would like to do the same with stamina. :)
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    Double Bloody Mara has not really used for max stats but to reduce vampire levels. Regularly blue food max stats were better so it was only used for reducing vampire level then using the food of choice after that. So it really did not matter if there is a stam equivalent or not.

    Since things have changed there may be a stam equivalent come out later in the year.
    Edited by idk on June 5, 2019 9:23PM
  • Crixus8000
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    Not many people seem to be listening to the op. As the op said, bloody mara gives more stats than bi food this patch.

    Would be nice to get a stam version.
    Edited by Crixus8000 on June 5, 2019 7:41PM
  • iCaliban
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    idk wrote: »
    Double Bloody Mara is not really used for max stats but to reduce vampire levels. When we use it, when those I run with use it we follow up with our regular food. I have only seen it sued for vHoF final boss on HM (maybe used on non HM also).

    iirc, even regularly blue food max stats is better so it is really only good for reducing vampire levels.

    So it really does not matter if there is a stam equivalent or not.

    Edit: and no, there is not a stam equivalent and I would not expect one either.

    This is all incorrect as of the newest patch. Double bloody is objectively superior to blue bistat mag food.
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    No one really runs Mara
    iCaliban wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    Double Bloody Mara is not really used for max stats but to reduce vampire levels. When we use it, when those I run with use it we follow up with our regular food. I have only seen it sued for vHoF final boss on HM (maybe used on non HM also).

    iirc, even regularly blue food max stats is better so it is really only good for reducing vampire levels.

    So it really does not matter if there is a stam equivalent or not.

    Edit: and no, there is not a stam equivalent and I would not expect one either.

    This is all incorrect as of the newest patch. Double bloody is objectively superior to blue bistat mag food.

    Guess I'm a hipster then, because I've been using it as the main food for my vampire for about 3 years now.



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    Arteum takeaway broth
  • DocFrost72
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    KMarble wrote: »
    Arteum takeaway broth

    Is the stamina equivalent of Clockwork citrus filet. It buffs health regen, stam regen, health and stam and consequentially has lower max values of stam and health than blue bistat food.

    Thank you for answering, though!
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    IonicKai wrote: »
    Short answer is no there is not an equivalent at this time.

    In regards to those that are suggesting DCT is the best food for stam you are mistaken even when referring to Regen food as arteaum takeaway broth is stronger. That said with the nerfs to sustain foods a lot of stam are just leveraging the orcs naturally large health and stam pool and using that plus some attribute/ enchant change and lavafoot soup. It's actually pretty ridiculous that that is possible but it's better max offensive stat and Regen allowing for full light attack rotation (only orcs can really do this right now because they are a bit OP given all the offensive stats in addition to their max health boost).

    Edit: separated short answer from rest.

    Agreed, but ATB is not obtainable to the masses as it either requires tons of gold, RNG luck while fishing, and is mat cost heavy.

    DCT is much more obtainable as most people have the recipe and can make it themselves.
  • darkblue5
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    No.

    Which stinks. Also needs to be a drink for... ummm... reasons. (B.P.)
  • Dojohoda
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    Nope, in this case, stam is sol.
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    Crixus8000 wrote: »
    Not many people seem to be listening to the op. As the op said, bloody mara gives more stats than bi food this patch.

    Would be nice to get a stam version.

    Those people probably don't read patch notes at all if they don't know that DCT is rather weak after nerf and only ATB is ok, but cost of ATB to run it is all-time food is not comfortable at all.
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    IonicKai wrote: »
    Short answer is no there is not an equivalent at this time.

    In regards to those that are suggesting DCT is the best food for stam you are mistaken even when referring to Regen food as arteaum takeaway broth is stronger. That said with the nerfs to sustain foods a lot of stam are just leveraging the orcs naturally large health and stam pool and using that plus some attribute/ enchant change and lavafoot soup. It's actually pretty ridiculous that that is possible but it's better max offensive stat and Regen allowing for full light attack rotation (only orcs can really do this right now because they are a bit OP given all the offensive stats in addition to their max health boost).

    Edit: separated short answer from rest.

    The short half answers my question. Thank you very much, and thank you to those who said there is no current version of what I am looking for :)
  • Colecovision
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    With the "no" answer clear, I'll add that I don't think we are getting one either. The double bloody mara buff worked out to be a damage and survival buff for every single mag character running bi stat food. If the forum mag qq has any truth to it, the stam/ mag balance doesn't warrant something like that for stam at the moment. When they made arteum pickled fish bowl a second specialized mag bi stat food and avoided making one for stam, I suspect it was a calculated move. It was also something they could have easily changed while adjusting food values the way they just did.

    I'd love to be wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
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    idk wrote: »
    Double Bloody Mara is not really used for max stats but to reduce vampire levels. When we use it, when those I run with use it we follow up with our regular food. I have only seen it sued for vHoF final boss on HM (maybe used on non HM also).

    iirc, even regularly blue food max stats is better so it is really only good for reducing vampire levels.

    So it really does not matter if there is a stam equivalent or not.

    Edit: and no, there is not a stam equivalent and I would not expect one either.

    Look again, things changed after Elsweyer. Bloody Mary is popular food now with magicka. They just put sustain elsewhere. Also gold food gas more max stats then blue one now.
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    Looking at some of these answers...you really have to wonder if people actually look at tool tips or are they all lemmings...
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    We need a stam drink zos
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    Tasear wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    Double Bloody Mara is not really used for max stats but to reduce vampire levels. When we use it, when those I run with use it we follow up with our regular food. I have only seen it sued for vHoF final boss on HM (maybe used on non HM also).

    iirc, even regularly blue food max stats is better so it is really only good for reducing vampire levels.

    So it really does not matter if there is a stam equivalent or not.

    Edit: and no, there is not a stam equivalent and I would not expect one either.

    Look again, things changed after Elsweyer. Bloody Mary is popular food now with magicka. They just put sustain elsewhere. Also gold food gas more max stats then blue one now.

    That was pointed out above. Thx.
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    Beardimus wrote: »
    DCT is the thing you want.
    No one really runs Mara, just use it to get down a stage then back to the good stuff.
    idk wrote: »
    Double Bloody Mara is not really used for max stats but to reduce vampire levels. When we use it, when those I run with use it we follow up with our regular food. I have only seen it sued for vHoF final boss on HM (maybe used on non HM also).

    iirc, even regularly blue food max stats is better so it is really only good for reducing vampire levels.

    So it really does not matter if there is a stam equivalent or not.

    Edit: and no, there is not a stam equivalent and I would not expect one either.

    @Beardimus

    You should take a look at consumable tooltips as of Elsweyr.

    Double Bloody Mara is the strongest bi-stat consumable in the game right now.

    As for bi-stat Magicka foods, you've got:

    Double Bloody Mara (gold): +5852 Max Health, +5297 Max Magicka
    Artaeum Pickled Fish Bowl (purple): +5652 Max Health, +5117 Max Magicka
    Blue bi-stat foods: +5395 Max Health, +4936 Max Magicka

    Stam only has blue bi-stat foods.

    Also worth noting that magicka can use Double Bloody Mara with Bright-Throat's Boast.
    Edited by LiquidPony on June 5, 2019 9:36PM
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    Currently use Sticky Pork and Radish Noodles (Blue bi-stat).
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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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    LiquidPony wrote: »
    Beardimus wrote: »
    DCT is the thing you want.
    No one really runs Mara, just use it to get down a stage then back to the good stuff.
    idk wrote: »
    Double Bloody Mara is not really used for max stats but to reduce vampire levels. When we use it, when those I run with use it we follow up with our regular food. I have only seen it sued for vHoF final boss on HM (maybe used on non HM also).

    iirc, even regularly blue food max stats is better so it is really only good for reducing vampire levels.

    So it really does not matter if there is a stam equivalent or not.

    Edit: and no, there is not a stam equivalent and I would not expect one either.

    @Beardimus

    You should take a look at consumable tooltips as of Elsweyr.

    Double Bloody Mara is the strongest bi-stat consumable in the game right now.

    As for bi-stat Magicka foods, you've got:

    Double Bloody Mara (gold): +5852 Max Health, +5297 Max Magicka
    Artaeum Pickled Fish Bowl (purple): +5652 Max Health, +5117 Max Magicka
    Blue bi-stat foods: +5395 Max Health, +4936 Max Magicka

    Stam only has blue bi-stat foods.

    Also worth noting that magicka can use Double Bloody Mara with Bright-Throat's Boast.

    Thanks @LiquidPony Today I Learned! I thought Double Mara was 4575 for both! I run BT, so normally WMB, but actually when the sustain is here (CP areas) ill switch to Mara if its 1200 more health and 700 magika! Nice
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Gold bi-stat stamina food is direly needed, it will put many things in balance right.
  • HankTwo
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    Because of the dubious camoran throne nerf there are no great stamina specific drink options left in the game, which is pretty *** for anyone who wants to use bone pirates tatters. The new double bloody mara on the other hand is now one of the strongest food/drink options in general, and it works amazing with bright-throat's boast. I really hope they introduce a stamina version of this drink in the near future.

    Tbh, I don't get why they nerfed the sustain food/drinks in the first place. If you compare the current witchmother's potent brew (or dubious camoran throne) to double bloody mara, it gets completely blown out of the water:
    Double bloody mara: 5852 health, 5297 magicka
    Witchmother's potent brew: 3094 health, 2856 magicka, 315 magicka regen
    Difference: 2758 health and 2441 magicka vs 315 magicka regen
    --> As long as the health is useful to you (which is always the case in PvP), double bloody mara is far superior.
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