What do you think about Artifacts only being obtainable from the crown store?

Saturn
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I've always been a massive fan of collecting Artifacts in the previous Elder Scrolls games, and was pretty disappointed to see that all the Artifacts (so far) have only been available via the store, such as with: Chrysamere, Spellbreaker, and Sinweaver, with Spear of Bitter Mercy (a favourite of mine; though not sure how a spear would work in ESO..) being confirmed today via the crown store showcase. From looking at the outfit styles, I've seen that Dawnbreaker will become available by playing Depths of Malatar at some point, which is awesome, but I still wish that it was possible to acquire all these styles (or the actual Artifacts themselves) by actually playing the game (and not limited-time offers...). But I've been wondering, what does everyone else think? I know there's a pretty big support for the crown store on the forum, but I'm really curious if everyone is really fine with this kind of stuff, since I personally prefer to be rewarded for playing the game and not just buying my rewards from the store.

Please note that this does not pertain to Volendrung or Wabbajack nor any other Artifacts with brief appearances, as they are not permanently obtainable items/styles.
"Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

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What do you think about Artifacts only being obtainable from the crown store? 123 votes

I like it
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I don't care
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I don't like it
49%
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  • Jhalin
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    I don't like it
    More cosmetics should be awarded through play
  • Sylvermynx
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    I don't care
    I'm not a collector of artifacts in this game. I play Skyrim with LotD for that. In this game I collect costumes, mounts, and pets. And furniture and furnishing patterns.
  • Acrolas
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    I like it
    They're replicas, thus removing any existing lore requirements.
    For the most part, they're there if you have a particular affection for a certain style, but they were never really intended to affect gameplay, either with intrinsic power or exposition dialogue.

    Crown Store is fine for most of them. Meridia never agreed to the Coldharbour Compact so Dawnbreaker has a more breathing room for in-game interactions.
    Edited by Acrolas on June 4, 2019 12:35AM
    signing off
  • max_only
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    It doesn’t make sense for everyone to be carrying the one and only epic weapon. And there would be an outcry if there really was only one account who could wield an artifact. Making them replicas is the best way.
    Edited by max_only on June 4, 2019 1:01AM
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  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    Acrolas wrote: »
    They're replicas, thus removing any existing lore requirements.
    For the most part, they're there if you have a particular affection for a certain style, but they were never really intended to affect gameplay, either with intrinsic power or exposition dialogue.

    Crown Store is fine for most of them. Meridia never agreed to the Coldharbour Compact so Dawnbreaker has a more breathing room for in-game interactions.

    I still think that ZOS is doing it because they know that people like me exist and can be siphoned for money through fandom, not that I've personally bought any of them, since I'm adverse to paying such a steep price for a cosmetic. And if they are truly adding Dawnbreaker as an in-game Artifact style you can acquire through actually playing the game, they're showing that they can do it, which I personally think will open them up to more criticism like mine.
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  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    max_only wrote: »
    It doesn’t make sense for everyone to be carrying the one and only epic weapon. And there would be an outcry if there really was only one account who could wield an artifact. Making them replicas is the best way.

    It's not the replica part that bothers me, it's the fact that they're locked behind a paywall.
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

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  • max_only
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    Saturn wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    It doesn’t make sense for everyone to be carrying the one and only epic weapon. And there would be an outcry if there really was only one account who could wield an artifact. Making them replicas is the best way.

    It's not the replica part that bothers me, it's the fact that they're locked behind a paywall.

    yes I know this thread is about earning things in game. So far Zos has shied away from that and their customers are happy to pay for more customization. Thankfully these arent status symbols like in other games where people were literally waving their “ego sticks” around. We have more than enough of that with titles, skins, and maelstrom weapons.

    The majority of their audience just isn’t that... competitive/braggadocio.

    Every time someone puts a braggy thread up, it’s inundated with salt. Every time.

    You may say “locked behind paywall” and others will say “locked behind content they will never play”. That’s why the Meridia skin was lower requirement than the others. Hard mode vet dungeons and hard mode vet trials are not that popular, Zos has the numbers on that and their current trend reflects that.
    Edited by max_only on June 4, 2019 2:32PM
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    #OppositeResourceSiphoningAttacks
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  • myskyrim26
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    I like it
    This game exists because it yields the money. It is a commersial project. Once the money stops coming, this game will be shut down. So, there must be luxury things available for crowns only. The only thing I don't like is they way they come - limited time. It seems to be a mistake. I don't have the money now, but I could have spend them later... Once I have the money, the thing I want is already gone.
    Edited by myskyrim26 on June 4, 2019 1:09AM
  • Taleof2Cities
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    I don't care
    You can't dye them.

    Though I know that would be immersion-breaking for some ...

    The crown store dungeon boss weapon packs are plenty enough variety for me. Those you can dye.
  • TheShadowScout
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    I don't care
    Eh... I see no issue with "artifact" cosmetics being crown-store only. None at all, just like I see no issue with the monster set cosmetics being there, or costumes, or hats, or... or...

    Its just -cosmetics-
    EXACTLY the thing the crown store should sell!!!
    Jhalin wrote: »
    More cosmetics should be awarded through play
    And some are.
    I just got a new sword style in elsweyr the other day.

    Wish they would refit some of that to older quest completions tho... but who knows, maybe they might, someday?

  • Dojohoda
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    I don't like it
    I've not really thought about it, but if I did, I might not like it. I've never bought one.
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  • Shadow_Akula
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    I don't care
    I don’t care, don’t buy many outfit styles, would care if ZoS implemented them as furnishings though (what they should have been imo)

    And as others pointed out it’s cosmetic only changes so I don’t mind with it being crown store
  • Kalik_Gold
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    I don't care
    Bought all with Gold so Crown store or not, I achieved the items with regular gaming. Just needed a middle man to achieve it and I used the RP in my backstory.
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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    Jhalin wrote: »
    More cosmetics should be awarded through play

    This. If only.

    But they love their crown store. It's only gotten more cancerous over the years.
  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    max_only wrote: »
    Saturn wrote: »
    max_only wrote: »
    It doesn’t make sense for everyone to be carrying the one and only epic weapon. And there would be an outcry if there really was only one account who could wield an artifact. Making them replicas is the best way.

    It's not the replica part that bothers me, it's the fact that they're locked behind a paywall.

    yes I know this thread is about earning things in game. So far Zos has shied away from that and their customers are happy to pay for more customization. Thankfully these arent status symbols like in other games where people were literally waving their “ego sticks” around. We have more than enough of that with titles, skins, and maelstrom weapons.

    The majority of their audience just isn’t that... competitive/braggadocio.

    Every time someone puts a bratty thread up, it’s inundated with salt. Every time.

    You may say “locked behind paywall” and others will say “locked behind content they will never play”. That’s why the Meridia skin was lower requirement than the others. Hard mode vet dungeons and hard mode vet trials are not that popular, Zos has the numbers on that and their current trend reflects that.

    @max_only
    It's by their design though, they've fostered a community that don't want to achieve anything, because they'd rather buy their rewards than work for them. It has absolutely nothing to do with bragging rights or being competitive, it's all about the fact that they are getting away with putting the majority of rewards, which could've been earned from playing the actual game, into the store instead. If they thought they could get away with putting Pay-to-win items in the store, they'd do it in a heartbeat, and people would probably still defend it in the same asinine way that people defend crown crate lootbox gambling...
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    This game exists because it yields the money. It is a commersial project. Once the money stops coming, this game will be shut down. So, there must be luxury things available for crowns only. The only thing I don't like is they way they come - limited time. It seems to be a mistake. I don't have the money now, but I could have spend them later... Once I have the money, the thing I want is already gone.

    This is already the case, but I feel like putting artefact skins in there too is just another foray into seeing how much they can monotise stuff that should be rewarded from playing the game. I will say that it looks they they are on a reverse course with Elsweyr as they are finally awarding a mount for playing the game (the first obtainable mount from any achievement btw...), but they still have a long way to go in my opinion. And let's not kid ourselves, ZOS is no doubt already raking in stacks from milking whales via the crown crate gambling, I just wish they'd have the integrity to more properly reward people who play their game. You may say it's all about money, but look at WoW, they're properly awarding people for playing their game, and is still at the top of the MMO hierarchy, so it's not like it's an impossible feat...
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    You can't dye them.

    Though I know that would be immersion-breaking for some ...

    The crown store dungeon boss weapon packs are plenty enough variety for me. Those you can dye.

    Yet another Crown Store exclusive thing that could easily be awarded from their respective dungeons...
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    Kalik_Gold wrote: »
    Bought all with Gold so Crown store or not, I achieved the items with regular gaming. Just needed a middle man to achieve it and I used the RP in my backstory.

    This is the only sensible idea I've heard on this topic, to be honest.
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Akrasjel
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    I don't like it
    Maybe do some event for this in future like we have for mounts
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  • SanguineMyBrother
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    I don't care
    I don't care for the artifacts but I would love to earn more cosmetic stuff in game that isn't gated behind vet content.

    I recently got the Master Angler title and it would've been cool to unlock the Maormer fish skin that was datamined last year. I want that skin so bad :(
    Edited by SanguineMyBrother on June 4, 2019 2:16PM
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  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    Eh... I see no issue with "artifact" cosmetics being crown-store only. None at all, just like I see no issue with the monster set cosmetics being there, or costumes, or hats, or... or...

    Its just -cosmetics-
    EXACTLY the thing the crown store should sell!!!
    Jhalin wrote: »
    More cosmetics should be awarded through play
    And some are.
    I just got a new sword style in elsweyr the other day.

    Wish they would refit some of that to older quest completions tho... but who knows, maybe they might, someday?

    Cosmetics are rewards though. You could call mount skins cosmetic too, and until recently there were only 4 available from playing the game, now there's five... I just personally think that putting the majority of cosmetics in the store is robbing the game of rewards that would make the game itself for fulfilling. I don't mind stuff like time-savers, especially if it's just to buy something you don't wanna spend the time getting by playing the game, but when it's only available through the store, that's when I get a bit annoyed about it, especially since most of the creative talent goes into the store, with only a tiny bit going into in-game rewards.
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    I don't care for the artifacts but I would love to earn more cosmetic stuff in game that isn't gated behind vet content.

    I recently got the Master Angler title and it would've been cool to unlock the Maormer fish skin that was datamined last year. I want that skin so bad :(

    Yeah, I agree, it shouldn't all just be locked behind endgame content. I actually really liked how much you were rewarded by questing in Elsweyr and I hope that's the beginning of a new course for ZOS in terms of how they reward players for playing their game.
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    Akrasjel wrote: »
    Maybe do some event for this in future like we have for mounts

    Yeah, I think that's a good compromise, and it would also boost their precious engagement numbers which they so love to brag about.
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • yRaven
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    I don't care
    I WANT THE ICE BLADE OF THE MONARCH and maybe Daedric Crescent (One-handed version :D )
    Jack of all trades. Master of at least one.
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  • mann9753b16_ESO
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    I like it
    I support everything that avoids P2W transactions.

    If they can make money for cosmetics, go for it, put them in the crown store.

    As long as that means we wont get Legendary Gear crates or stuff like that, I am 100% fine with putting cosmetics in the crown store.
  • Saturn
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    I don't like it
    I support everything that avoids P2W transactions.

    If they can make money for cosmetics, go for it, put them in the crown store.

    As long as that means we wont get Legendary Gear crates or stuff like that, I am 100% fine with putting cosmetics in the crown store.

    Even if (hypothetically) that means the game would have no cosmetic items to achieve?
    "Madness is a bitter mercy, perhaps, but a mercy nonetheless."

    Fire and Ice
  • Knightpanther
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    I don't like it
    I like the system in SWTOR where 'fluff' items can be sold on the GTN.
    That way folks that spend a lot of time in game earning virtual currency can buy things available from a store.

    Be safe
  • Danikat
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    I don't like it
    I'm somewhere between 'I don't care' and 'I don't like it' but I voted for the second because I think I don't care because they're on the crown store.

    I have no interest in paying real money to unlock a weapon skin in this game (as far as I remember I've only ever bought 1 weapon skin in any game, and I doubt I'd do it again). I'm not exactly opposed to them selling these skins to other people but it makes them completely uninteresting to me, so I'm never going to buy them.

    Whereas if they were obtainable in-game then I might be tempted to go after ones I like, or I might use ones I unlock in the course of playing the game
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  • cheifsoap
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    I don't care
    Its just a skin
  • Jeirno
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    I don't care
    Jhalin wrote: »
    More cosmetics should be awarded through play

    umm theres like 60 different motif styles you can obtain through play, Outfit styles from BGs. Outfits from one of the Morrowind public dungeons and Elsweyr public dungeons. Cyrodiil Arena Gladiator stuff and so on. Theres like what 5 artifacts so far that are crown store only?? and then the arms pack things in crown store that you can buy with even tickets later this year. I think its very reasonable.
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