Vma dw axes

PandaPalace

Does dw axes passive bleed take the vma cruel flurry buff?

John_Falstaff

No, the bleed does not consume the buff. It used to until Summerset, but it was not an intended behavior and it actually was one of the (many) reasons why Cruel Flurry fell into disuse - because buff used to be stolen by things like bleed ticks or ticks of poisoned status effect (or even alchemical poisons, I think). It should be fixed now, so only damage from abilities should take Cruel Flurry buff.

brtomkin

Does Cruel Flurry buff the heal portion of Blood Craze?

Stx

I don't have them yet, but cruel flurry buffs ultimates, so I'm really looking forward to experimenting in pvp with a build that runs deadly strike and cruel flurry to pop out savage ballistas or soul assaults

MentalxHammer

brtomkin wrote: »

Does Cruel Flurry buff the heal portion of Blood Craze?

No, tested personally.

MentalxHammer

Stx wrote: »

I don't have them yet, but cruel flurry buffs ultimates, so I'm really looking forward to experimenting in pvp with a build that runs deadly strike and cruel flurry to pop out savage ballistas or soul assaults

I have been theorycrafting with similar ideas, this will be a very potent spec considering deadly strike buffs flurry.

mursie

i tried dw vma axes on stam sorc in no-cp last week and it was extremely underwhelming. was wearing slime craw, veiled heritance, and tzogvin. would routinely be at full tzogvin stack with 40% crit and about 4K weapon dmg. would apply flurry and then use rend, carve, and dbos as buffed damage dots.

issues:
1. u have to get the last hit of flurry on target to access the cruel flurry buff. one dodge roll during channel and u get nothing.
2. flurry was ridiculously pathetic. routinely i would have combat logs showing twin blade bleed ticks of 1400 while flurry was hitting for 250 to 300 per hit. a crit flurry was 350. adding 14% deadly strike on this would still be miniscule.
3. sadly the buffed dots felt extremely underwhelming too. I would regularly get both rend and carve on my target, both buffed, with two full flurry channels as well...and they would rarely be below 50% health. the amount of combat time it takes to set this up relative to payout is woeful.

tldr - rend into a dswing reverse slice is, without exaggeration, 100x harder hitting than vmd dw. it wasn't even close.