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Sunspire unfortunate naming

  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Stebarnz wrote: »
    Thicclady wrote: »
    Hello,

    I just want to ask you opinions, I doubt developers thought this before making Sunspire raid, that its now shortened with SS. That is really unfortunate indeed, because for many people especially in NA and specific EU countries it brings really bad vibes. Maybe we could make some kind of other abbreviation like SuSpi, "LF2m SuSpi" for example? Any thoughts?

    Im fom canada and i have no idea what you mean by that

    whats the education system like in Canada?

    Its good
    I read the other post so i know its some *** abreviation
    But i can say millitary abreviation arent par of normal shcool program in canada so no they dont teach about *** squadron abreviation
  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Just think they are searching for player to do veteran super saiyan
  • Stebarnz
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    Stebarnz wrote: »
    Thicclady wrote: »
    Hello,

    I just want to ask you opinions, I doubt developers thought this before making Sunspire raid, that its now shortened with SS. That is really unfortunate indeed, because for many people especially in NA and specific EU countries it brings really bad vibes. Maybe we could make some kind of other abbreviation like SuSpi, "LF2m SuSpi" for example? Any thoughts?

    Im fom canada and i have no idea what you mean by that

    whats the education system like in Canada?

    Its good
    I read the other post so i know its some *** abreviation
    But i can say millitary abreviation arent par of normal shcool program in canada so no they dont teach about *** squadron abreviation

    it seems they don't teach much about world war 2 either.
    The reason the OP was sensitive is that the SS during world war 2 was a paramilitary organisation under the control of *** originally called Saal-Schutz hence 'SS'.
    Every day is a school day. Lest we forget ;)
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Thicclady wrote: »
    Hello,

    I just want to ask you opinions, I doubt developers thought this before making Sunspire raid, that its now shortened with SS. That is really unfortunate indeed, because for many people especially in NA and specific EU countries it brings really bad vibes. Maybe we could make some kind of other abbreviation like SuSpi, "LF2m SuSpi" for example? Any thoughts?

    I never, ever use the abbreviation "SS" myself.

    That said, I've been seeing it in MMOs since a major build in Guild Wars was defined by the skill "Spiteful Spirit". It's just something I have to put up with.

    And by the way -- while the organization is irrevocably tainted as a legendary example of evil, not all individual members of the SS were equally bad. One of my father's concentration camp guards, when he was away on leave, befriended my family and told them how my father was doing.
  • Mr_Walker
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    Thicclady wrote: »
    Hello,

    I just want to ask you opinions, I doubt developers thought this before making Sunspire raid, that its now shortened with SS. That is really unfortunate indeed, because for many people especially in NA and specific EU countries it brings really bad vibes. Maybe we could make some kind of other abbreviation like SuSpi, "LF2m SuSpi" for example? Any thoughts?

    I think that the "Super Sports" nomenclature for cars has been shortened for decades to SS with zero problems.

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  • fierackas
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    I've been looking forwards to the Slippery Sausage Trial
  • radiostar
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    o myyy
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  • Dark_Lord_Kuro
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    Stebarnz wrote: »
    Stebarnz wrote: »
    Thicclady wrote: »
    Hello,

    I just want to ask you opinions, I doubt developers thought this before making Sunspire raid, that its now shortened with SS. That is really unfortunate indeed, because for many people especially in NA and specific EU countries it brings really bad vibes. Maybe we could make some kind of other abbreviation like SuSpi, "LF2m SuSpi" for example? Any thoughts?

    Im fom canada and i have no idea what you mean by that

    whats the education system like in Canada?

    Its good
    I read the other post so i know its some *** abreviation
    But i can say millitary abreviation arent par of normal shcool program in canada so no they dont teach about *** squadron abreviation

    it seems they don't teach much about world war 2 either.
    The reason the OP was sensitive is that the SS during world war 2 was a paramilitary organisation under the control of *** originally called Saal-Schutz hence 'SS'.
    Every day is a school day. Lest we forget ;)

    Mostly what part canada took in it and the big event
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  • Uryel
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    Thicclady wrote: »
    Hello,

    I just want to ask you opinions, I doubt developers thought this before making Sunspire raid, that its now shortened with SS. That is really unfortunate indeed, because for many people especially in NA and specific EU countries it brings really bad vibes. Maybe we could make some kind of other abbreviation like SuSpi, "LF2m SuSpi" for example? Any thoughts?

    Seriously, mate, it really doesn't matter. The war has been over for 74 years. I'll be 40 this year and my grandparents were young when the war ended. And I live in a country that was invaded by *** Germany back then. I should probably add that, depending on your main language, lots of abbreviations used in the game could be seen as offensive.

    Now here's an idea : if the matter is that sensitive, maybe y'all could simply use proper full name for dungeons ? I mean, the devs probably thought this out before, since they apparently bothered creating full names, pertaining to the actual content of the dungeons. Maybe y'all should try using full names ? That would also make it ALOT more understandable for newcomers and lowbies. Just saying.
    Edited by Uryel on June 1, 2019 1:08AM
  • Kiralyn2000
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    Yeah, Chevy should have never made the Monte Carlo SS.

    o:)
  • navystylz_ESO
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    Didn't even know SS was a dirty word until this overly-sensitive post about it. Some people need to seriously stop being offended over every little thing.
  • Reverb
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    People who look for reasons to be offended will never fail to find them. History has no shortage of tragedies and atrocities, but it’s not reasonable to avoid common acronyms just because something somewhere in some language used the same letters.
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  • Apox
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    toughen up
  • Glurin
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    Didn't even know SS was a dirty word until this overly-sensitive post about it. Some people need to seriously stop being offended over every little thing.

    It's amazing how many dirty words there are now. The rules change almost hourly too, so words that were perfectly fine this morning are now highly offensive and should never be spoken or printed.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."
  • martinhpb16_ESO
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    It is unfortunate because the OP is saying it is.

    If the Op thinks it is then probably someone else does too.

    Just having to say the initials SS probably immediately conjours unfortunate memories and emotions that many of us luckily do not have to deal with.

    Its funny how many people on these forums jump on something immediately.

    - I had a bad breakfast today
    - no you didn't my breakfast was fine
    - no really I had a bad breakfast
    - stop being so sensitive, you are wrong my breakfast was fine
    At least the spelling is difficult for you.
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  • Ei8htba11
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    One word, which seems to have been forgotten in a lot of issues in recent years...

    CONTEXT

    Zos didn't name anything in an unfortunate manner.
  • Devanear
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    Its funny how many people on these forums jump on something immediately.

    - I had a bad breakfast today
    - no you didn't my breakfast was fine
    - no really I had a bad breakfast
    - stop being so sensitive, you are wrong my breakfast was fine

    I think it's funny how the anti-offense crowd gets so easily worked up and fuming about the most innocuous things. One might even think they are offended or something :#

    The OP says "SS is an unfortunate abbreviation, can we find something better" and immediately people start saying that's asking for censorship as if they were asking for SS to be banned.

    Yes, SS is cringy, no, this one is not on ZoS.
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    I too like to play victim olympics.
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  • Darkstorne
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    My initials are SS.

    Guess I’ll turn myself in, officer...
  • Greystag
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    k lol
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    I'm offended by the United States because the founders committed mass genocide against all of my people and forced them to march the Trail of Tears. So there cannot be any abbreviations of anything that reminds me of all of that murder.

    Honestly, it's not an issue until you associate it.

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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Let's call everything "supercalifragilistisexpialidocious" . That one should be 100% safe and not referring to anything else but itself, shouldn't it ?

    Oops.. wait. there are three letters in there..; S.. E... X....
    Also, some people will call out for Disney product placement.

    Anyway, kudos to the poster who mentioned "recreationnally offended", I'll reuse that one, it's really on spot.

  • Benzux
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    I had a nice time giggling to myself as I read through the replies to this thread. I'm definitely using the "lfg SS Tank raid" when Elsweyr drops on console :D:D

    That being said, as others have pointed out, getting offended by something like this (or insinuating that someone might get offended) is really silly. If the atrocities of WW2 still affect your daily life so much that two letters make you feel uncomfortable, I suggest that you should get some professional help. Not pointing the finger at anyone, just my opinion on the matter.
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  • XiDiabolismiX
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    Can you go back to your safe space and let the rest of us enjoy a video game....?
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    This thread is a joke, right? Next time I take off an order for a patient who has been prescribed an insulin sliding scale pre-op, I’m going to write “Humulin R SliSca”, because OBVIOUSLY the abbreviation “SS” can only mean one very bad thing. 🙄
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    Not everyone in pc na is from na. Just saying.
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    RavenSworn wrote: »
    Not everyone in pc na is from na. Just saying.

    And... ? What do you mean by that ?
    I'm on PC EU, I live in the EU, and I can assure you that SS has plenty of different meanings as an abbreviation, and except in one particular context, it doesn't offend anyone.

    Even the german sometimes end up randomly with "SS" or "NZ" in their car number plate an noone makes a fuss about it.

    I understand the need for "historical memory", but applying it in such a meaningless context is rather counter productive.


    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on June 1, 2019 11:02AM
  • SweepsAllClowns
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    This is once again a great example when nowadays mentioning some forbidden color or letter combination makes some people absolutely hysteric, it's like the racist victim card, when pulled out on every possible occasion, loses eventually all of its effectiveness. I remember when Robin Van Persie still played in Arsenal and celebrated his goal by first fast touching the club's logo and then raising his arm up and forward to wave to fans, I immediately knew it looked like some *** salute and spectacle would be real when some people got upset again, I'm quite sure he simply was celebrating his goal and nothing more. When this kind of getting upset with everything too easily gets out of hands, soon we can't speak or write many words or even letters, because someone somewhere might get upset. By the way did you know that in Italy Rome is a football club named SS Lazio...
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