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Is the Stibbons storyline and character blatantly sexist towards men

Illuvatarr
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Particularly, the title “man-servant” and how she treats him. If the roles were reversed, it would be a talking point in social media

Is the Stibbons storyline and character blatantly sexist towards men 81 votes

Yes
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No
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  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    No
    Grow up.
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • LadyNalcarya
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    Not necessarily sexist, but I do find Lady Laurent obnoxious. She's my least favorite recurring character.
    Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason

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  • Tan9oSuccka
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    No
    Good grief. Looks like someone is fishing.
    Of course I like steak. I'm a Nord, aren't I?
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  • Illuvatarr
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    Yes
    I cant help but wonder if she was a male and he was female if the answers here might be different.
  • Jimmy
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    No
    Sigh, grow up.

    I find it one of the better, funnier, and more enjoyable story lines.
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    @SkruDe
  • wolfie1.0.
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    This thread seems to be baiting in nature. Can we get it closed?
  • Roboplus
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    Was Dexter's Laboratory sexist because Deedee was dumb?
  • TequilaFire
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    If you pay attention Lady Laurent actually cares about Stibbons and gets worried when he is missing.
  • LordGavus
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    No
    Nah, its all good
  • worrallj
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    I thought it was demeaning to bald guys. She's got such good hair and he has none.
  • Illuvatarr
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    Yes
    Actually, it isnt baiting at all. It is 100 percent serious and an interesting question of our time as it relates to video games. ESO and ZOS have a done a remarkable job of not objectifying female bodies, not body shaming, respecting the rights of children by not depicting them in game....and this is in stark contrast to other mmos where characters, especially female characters, are objectified and sexualized (is that a word lol?) in an inappropriate manner.

    I think they are at the forefront of leading this charge for good in video games and I think it should apply to all groups, not just those historically objectified or stereotyped. Tropes underlie trends and trends can lead to a dangerous place, a dangerous zeitgeist, when influence makers aren't aware or concerned with their social impact.
    Edited by Illuvatarr on May 31, 2019 3:34PM
  • Nemesis7884
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    thanks god you opened the thread twice so i can tell you twice how much i and grumpy cat disapprove

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  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    No
    Illuvatarr wrote: »
    I cant help but wonder if she was a male and he was female if the answers here might be different.

    No, my answer would be the same. You should read the stuff I read...
    In-game username: Un1korn | Happy member of the PCNA UESP guild (Resident Daggerfall Covenant enjoyer) | Main & basically only character: Crucian Vulpin, Imperial Dragonknight of the Daggerfall Covenant, and Undaunted Bulwark (I tank) | Mountain bike enjoyer and vulpine appreciator | If you know me from PCEU: No | To ZOS: THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BRING MY HORSE INTO BATTLE!
  • El_Borracho
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    No
    No, its just stupid and annoying.
  • DBZVelena
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    Yes
    Roboplus wrote: »
    Was Dexter's Laboratory sexist because Deedee was dumb?

    yes.
    it perpetuated the dumb blond trope.
    What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
    I believe in Genie-Gina.
  • DBZVelena
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    Yes
    Illuvatarr wrote: »
    I cant help but wonder if she was a male and he was female if the answers here might be different.

    i wonder how the answers correlate with the genders of the people who voted.
    What are Natch Potes? Can you eat those?
    I believe in Genie-Gina.
  • Ildun
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    Not necessarily sexist, but I do find Lady Laurent obnoxious. She's my least favorite recurring character.

    Yeah, i hate that b...character too and I hope dev can give us a chance to punish her like Narsis Dren and not everything bad happen to Stibbon. So far only Wrothgar quest allow me to do so...sort of.
  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    No
    Do we really need to turn everything into a political/cultural debate?
  • Recremen
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    No
    Nah, they pretty clearly have some kind of weird fetish thing going on.
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  • StytchFingal
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    No
    No.

    I'm catching a whiff of Jordan Peterson, Theodore Beale, and the musty, slightly damp closets of the mra movement.
  • logarifmik
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    It's not sexist, but it's annoying as hell. One of the worst recurring story parts in the game.
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  • BalticBlues
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    Yes
    Yes, it is, but isn't this is the most funny part?
    And isn't it even more revealing if roles are interchanged?

    Hint: Whenever you do not know if you can say something to a Lady or not,
    just imagine yourself saying this to man...
  • General_Zeranth
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    No
    In my opinion no. He is indeed a manservant and from what I know a common term for people in his line of work in mideival styled games. *Shrugs.*

    Lady Laurant is an insufferable pain in all of my various characters butts and I'm not a fan of her but nobles will be nobles.
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    Self confessed Master Angler title chaser.

    Titles Earned: 10/∞
  • darkblue5
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    No
    Ah yum a troll poll. 2/7 for the initial effort creating the poll. But 5/7 for the follow-up. Overall a decent job.
  • ZeroXFF
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    No
    No. And neither would it if the roles were reversed. But I'm sure that the response would be very different here on the forums and even in press, because certain kind of people love to invent outrage over nothing. Just like there is outrage about the ok👌 sign, #, and even milk.
  • Synnastix
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    No
    It’s not sexist, dude is pretty incompetent. He’s lucky to have such a hot piece who actually wants to hang around him. He doesn’t understand that she’s insulting him anyway so all he knows is there’s this piece of eye candy that gets excited when he’s around.

    Edited by Synnastix on May 31, 2019 4:01PM
  • Mihael
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    Yes
    So sexism against men is “funny”? Smh you all need to grow up
  • Coggage
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    No
    "Manservant" is a term that has been used for several centuries in Britain, and probably still is, so I don't see why that has triggered your sensitivity glands. Find something serious to get offended about, because something this trivial is laughable.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Option 3 ... who cares.

    Even if it is, you’re a man. You have enough advantages in life. Be happy with that.

    This is like people who get angry about BET being racist and why not WET.

    Be happy that you’re rewarded with a lifetime of not being harassed and better pay.

    Signed - a white guy
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Mihael wrote: »
    So sexism against men is “funny”? Smh you all need to grow up


    Yes, yes it is.
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