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Some DOTs removing crouch
JAwtunes
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I was in Cyrodiil and trying out the new sneaky set (Vesture of Darloc Brae) – I wondered whether I could use it as my main source of sustain on a NB. I noticed what seems to be a bug in the way poisons and some DOTs interact with crouch. This is NOT the same bug that has been reported for Poison Injection and Cloak.
What I found when messing about in Cyro is that something in my heavy DOT build was pulling me out of crouch but I generally remained in cloak. This meant that I wasn’t getting the resource gain from the new set. I did some further testing to try to narrow the culprit down and the results of my testing are shown below. Basically, there seems to be real inconsistency in how these DOTs are handled in the game wrt the crouch mechanic.
Hope this is helpful, to someone, somewhere.
Poison Injection:
CLOAK BUG ONLY: The DOT removes cloak but does not remove me from crouch.
Poison DOT:
REMAINED CROUCHED: able to remain crouched and actually returned to Hidden status while DOT ticked on target.
Crown Lethal Poison DOTs (x2 poison damage for 4 and 6 seconds)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Ravage and Creeping Ravage Health DOTs applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Crafted Damage Health Poison IX DOTs (x2 poison damage for 3 and 4 seconds and Stam cost increase)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Ravage and Creeping Ravage Health DOTs applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Crafted Damage Health Poison IX DOTs (poison damage for 6 seconds)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Ravage Health DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Crafted Damage Health Poison IX DOTs (poison damage for 10 seconds)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Creeping Ravage Health DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Blackrose bow DOT
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Virulent shot poison DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick. NOTE: this DOT also seems to break cloak but the effect was inconsistent.
Carve DOT
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Carve Bleed DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Shadow Image DOT:
REMAINED CROUCHED: able to remain crouched while Corrosive Arrow was actively being applied target (I wasn’t expecting this as this damaged seemed more akin to a direct damage ability, although I know it is treated as a DOT in game).
I also want to say thanks ZOS for trying to add interesting sets to the game to keep things from getting too samey. This new sneaky set could be fun, but without the ability to put heavy DOTs on an opponent I think it will be pretty limited in its use. Oh, and also a big thanks from the UK for not patching on a Bank Holiday – i'm not sure if that was deliberate on your part but if it was then take an Awesome from me!
What I found when messing about in Cyro is that something in my heavy DOT build was pulling me out of crouch but I generally remained in cloak. This meant that I wasn’t getting the resource gain from the new set. I did some further testing to try to narrow the culprit down and the results of my testing are shown below. Basically, there seems to be real inconsistency in how these DOTs are handled in the game wrt the crouch mechanic.
Hope this is helpful, to someone, somewhere.
Poison Injection:
CLOAK BUG ONLY: The DOT removes cloak but does not remove me from crouch.
Poison DOT:
REMAINED CROUCHED: able to remain crouched and actually returned to Hidden status while DOT ticked on target.
Crown Lethal Poison DOTs (x2 poison damage for 4 and 6 seconds)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Ravage and Creeping Ravage Health DOTs applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Crafted Damage Health Poison IX DOTs (x2 poison damage for 3 and 4 seconds and Stam cost increase)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Ravage and Creeping Ravage Health DOTs applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Crafted Damage Health Poison IX DOTs (poison damage for 6 seconds)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Ravage Health DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Crafted Damage Health Poison IX DOTs (poison damage for 10 seconds)
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Creeping Ravage Health DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Blackrose bow DOT
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Virulent shot poison DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick. NOTE: this DOT also seems to break cloak but the effect was inconsistent.
Carve DOT
FORCED OUT OF CROUCH: Carve Bleed DOT applied to target and I was removed from crouch on every tick.
Shadow Image DOT:
REMAINED CROUCHED: able to remain crouched while Corrosive Arrow was actively being applied target (I wasn’t expecting this as this damaged seemed more akin to a direct damage ability, although I know it is treated as a DOT in game).
I also want to say thanks ZOS for trying to add interesting sets to the game to keep things from getting too samey. This new sneaky set could be fun, but without the ability to put heavy DOTs on an opponent I think it will be pretty limited in its use. Oh, and also a big thanks from the UK for not patching on a Bank Holiday – i'm not sure if that was deliberate on your part but if it was then take an Awesome from me!
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TriangularChicken✭✭✭✭maybe it was a stealth nerf to crouching .. cyrodiil is a PvP area after all..not a place to hide in stealth (crouch).0 -
JAwtunes✭✭✭✭Its the inconsistency I am raising, not whether someone should rely on stealth of numbers in PVP, and It applies in PVE too. You have completely missed the point.0