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Minor Heroism Potion

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hakan
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Appearantly there are new ingredient which can be dropped from Dragons that gives Minor Heroism. How long does it lasts?
  • olsborg
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    45ish secs

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  • Wuuffyy
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    olsborg wrote: »
    45ish secs

    It’ll be nerfed due to the town criers
    Wuuffyy,
    WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
    ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
    -DM for questions
  • hakan
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    olsborg wrote: »
    45ish secs

    Thats a lot. Are you sure?
  • Royaji
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    It sounds like a lot but consider that Minor Heroism pots can only come with stamina regeneration or invisibility. Well, also lingering health but those are like 2-3k a pop. None of them have three effects which is pretty lackluster.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    hakan wrote: »
    olsborg wrote: »
    45ish secs

    Thats a lot. Are you sure?

    It is really not. Minor heroism is 1 more ulti every 1.5 seconds. So you are getting only an extra 30 ulti on that time. Hard much when the default is 3 per second. Or 135 in the same time you get that extra 30 from minor heroism.
  • SaintSubwayy
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    on most tankbuilds you already have 100% minor Heroism uptime due to Heroic Slash...so useless on tanks
    stats from the potions dont benefit and DD playstyle, nor healer playstyle in PVE

    dunno about pvp, may be niche to get up to 100% ulti while waiting on something
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  • MentalxHammer
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    Yes the up time is the same as the major endurance / other regen buffs. Lingering health minor heroism potions are extremely broken. This should be nerfed down to the 15 second up time.
    Edited by MentalxHammer on May 27, 2019 5:05PM
  • Wuuffyy
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    MentalxHammer wrote: »
    Yes the up time is the same as the major endurance / other regen buffs. Lingering health minor heroism potions are extremely broken. This should be nerfed down to the 15 second up time.

    No it shouldn’t tho.
    Wuuffyy,
    WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
    ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
    -DM for questions
  • Wuuffyy
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    Wolf_Watching wrote: »
    MentalxHammer wrote: »
    Yes the up time is the same as the major endurance / other regen buffs. Lingering health minor heroism potions are extremely broken. This should be nerfed down to the 15 second up time.

    No it shouldn’t tho.

    Not a whole lot of ult for the sacrifice of resources.
    Wuuffyy,
    WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
    ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
    -DM for questions
  • kvirus11
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    Might have to test this with a mag necro simply for ult generation.
    I can remove the negatives with expunge and still generate additional ult from corpses...

    Might need to be looked at under a microscope. Not saying a MH pot will completely replace standard pots for necro....just an interesting caveat to look into.
  • Blinkin8r
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    I'll be using these on my bomber while riding between objectives I don't care how much the reagents cost.
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  • WrathOfInnos
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    Too bad we can’t actually combine it with anything useful. I’d like to make a potion with Restore Magicka, Spell Crit, and Minor Heroism. Then we could coordinate for a Dragonknight to use Igneous Weapons for Major Sorcery and Brutality and everyone gets 0.67 more Ult/s at the cost of expensive potions.
  • Grandma
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    the only people who could feasibly use it besides PvPers are MAYBE stam dps if they're getting all the other buffs somewhere else.
    GH / 3/04/2021 / Elemental Catalyst Necromancer
  • hakan
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    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?
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    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    You can not. I theory crafted my Elsewyr build around minor heroism/stam/major savagery. These pots don't exist. I've been zossed yet again.
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    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos
    Edited by Royaji on May 28, 2019 4:54PM
  • hakan
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    Royaji wrote: »
    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos

    so not even 3 buffs?
  • phantasmalD
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    Royaji wrote: »
    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos

    There's Minor Heroism + Vulnerability as well
    hakan wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos

    so not even 3 buffs?

    Dragon's Bile + Dragon's Blood + Scrib Jelly = Lingering Health + Vulnerability + Heroism
    Dragon's Bile + Dragon's Blood + Spider Egg = Invisible + Lingering Health + Heroism

    Are the only possible 3 effect combos that have Minor Heroism atm afaik.
    There are other 3 effect combos with Dragon's Bile or Dragon's Blood but those don't have Heroism.
  • Royaji
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    phantasmalD wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos

    There's Minor Heroism + Vulnerability as well
    hakan wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos

    so not even 3 buffs?

    Dragon's Bile + Dragon's Blood + Scrib Jelly = Lingering Health + Vulnerability + Heroism
    Dragon's Bile + Dragon's Blood + Spider Egg = Invisible + Lingering Health + Heroism

    Are the only possible 3 effect combos that have Minor Heroism atm afaik.
    There are other 3 effect combos with Dragon's Bile or Dragon's Blood but those don't have Heroism.

    Yeah but the Vulnerability one is just plain worse than only Heroism. I did forget about the invisibility/heroism/lingering though which can be good for resetting fights but that's not really the best use of pots I would say.
  • hakan
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    The reason for this is you need two of the dragon ingredients for heroism, right? Which makes the choices very few.
  • phantasmalD
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    Royaji wrote: »
    phantasmalD wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos

    There's Minor Heroism + Vulnerability as well
    hakan wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    hakan wrote: »
    What do you guys mean by combine? Cant you just make it like Stam recov, Weap Damage and MH?

    There are only 3 possible combinations with Minor Heroism.

    Minor Heroism + Invisibility
    Minor Heroism + Stamina recovery
    Minor Heroism + Lingering health (that one will cost you several thousands gold per pot)

    Those are the only possible recepies.

    typos

    so not even 3 buffs?

    Dragon's Bile + Dragon's Blood + Scrib Jelly = Lingering Health + Vulnerability + Heroism
    Dragon's Bile + Dragon's Blood + Spider Egg = Invisible + Lingering Health + Heroism

    Are the only possible 3 effect combos that have Minor Heroism atm afaik.
    There are other 3 effect combos with Dragon's Bile or Dragon's Blood but those don't have Heroism.

    Yeah but the Vulnerability one is just plain worse than only Heroism. I did forget about the invisibility/heroism/lingering though which can be good for resetting fights but that's not really the best use of pots I would say.

    Well, I mean poisons exist.
  • TiZzA93
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    Looking forward to making these. @Blinkin8r i saw u bombing a dc group few days ago lol i was just outta range afk
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