Alcast Build MagSorc Questions

Crumorn

I left the game for a while and decided to come back since with all the new dlc dungeons and Elsewhere releasing i'd find some good pve content to sink my teeth into but am sincerely confused about the new mag sorc meta.

Why use elemental weapon now instead of force pulse?

Is infallible Aether a viable trial set instead of the Cloudrest or Sunspire one? I don't doubt Sunspire is better but is the difference something to worry about for DPS?

How does a maelstrom staff fit into all of this since its on the back bar and elemental weapon is on the front? Is a maelstrom staff important at all?

Crumorn

Also when do you use channeled acceleration? It's not in the rotation.

idk

Elemental weapon does more damage than FP.

Siroria from CR is only good if you do not have to move often. Not sure how the new set will shake out. Alcast lists a number of sets you can combine that will work.

Maelstrom staff back bar is still BiS. Use of elemental weapon works perfectly with vMA staff since it requires a LA attack for it to fire off.

idk

Crumorn wrote: »

Also when do you use channeled acceleration? It's not in the rotation.

Use it at the beginning and when it is about to drop off. It is used for the minor force and that is a pretty lengthy buff with that skill so it does not fit perfectly into a rotation. You will use it every few rotations. It is best to use it a little early than way late

Edit: I have not been running my mSorc for a bit so not sure exactly how it fits into the rotation with a sorc build.

Kingslayer513

Well ele weapon is cheaper and does more dps than FP. The maelstrom staff is BiS on every magicka character btw. The LA dmg buff carries over to front bar so that's why it's back barred.

IA is garbage for dps though. So are alcast's sorc builds for that matter. The sorc meta now is running 1 pet (twilight) with a full dynamic LA rotation. Don't bother with that HA rotation nonsense.

Donny_Vito

I'm not sure about Alcast build, but I do run IA on one of my fun PvE sorcs. I push about 40-45k DPS and the Minor Vulnerability is helpful to the rest of the group. Obviously if you're doing Vet Score runs, you wouldn't want this set since most likely one of the Support Roles would be running it. But then again, you wouldn't really want a MagSorc on Vet Score runs anyways.

Channeled Acceleration has about the same cooldown as your Power Surge, so you'll cast it about every 3rd rotation give-or-take. But the Minor Force is great, especially since a lot of these builds now tend to have high crit chance.

Kingslayer513

Donny_Vito wrote: »

I'm not sure about Alcast build, but I do run IA on one of my fun PvE sorcs. I push about 40-45k DPS and the Minor Vulnerability is helpful to the rest of the group. Obviously if you're doing Vet Score runs, you wouldn't want this set since most likely one of the Support Roles would be running it. But then again, you wouldn't really want a MagSorc on Vet Score runs anyways.

Any vet trial group that's above Craglorn pugs will have very high minor vulnerability uptime. It's not just score groups. IA on a dps is really a complete waste in 12 man content unless for some reason your group specifically builds around that.

Also magsorcs being bad is old news. 2 pet dynamic LA rotation magsorcs can hit 62k+ solo. Magplar and Magsorc are the highest magicka dps now.

Donny_Vito

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

Donny_Vito wrote: »

I'm not sure about Alcast build, but I do run IA on one of my fun PvE sorcs. I push about 40-45k DPS and the Minor Vulnerability is helpful to the rest of the group. Obviously if you're doing Vet Score runs, you wouldn't want this set since most likely one of the Support Roles would be running it. But then again, you wouldn't really want a MagSorc on Vet Score runs anyways.

Any vet trial group that's above Craglorn pugs will have very high minor vulnerability uptime. It's not just score groups. IA on a dps is really a complete waste in 12 man content unless for some reason your group specifically builds around that.

Also magsorcs being bad is old news. 2 pet dynamic LA rotation magsorcs can hit 62k+ solo. Magplar and Magsorc are the highest magicka dps now.

No one really likes pets in Trial Runs. They add extra overhead to the game, they steal buffs and heals, and are overall a pain in the rear. While the pet build can push out some decent DPS, they're just not worth it.

Kingslayer513

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

Donny_Vito wrote: »

I'm not sure about Alcast build, but I do run IA on one of my fun PvE sorcs. I push about 40-45k DPS and the Minor Vulnerability is helpful to the rest of the group. Obviously if you're doing Vet Score runs, you wouldn't want this set since most likely one of the Support Roles would be running it. But then again, you wouldn't really want a MagSorc on Vet Score runs anyways.

Any vet trial group that's above Craglorn pugs will have very high minor vulnerability uptime. It's not just score groups. IA on a dps is really a complete waste in 12 man content unless for some reason your group specifically builds around that.

Also magsorcs being bad is old news. 2 pet dynamic LA rotation magsorcs can hit 62k+ solo. Magplar and Magsorc are the highest magicka dps now.

No one really likes pets in Trial Runs. They add extra overhead to the game, they steal buffs and heals, and are overall a pain in the rear. While the pet build can push out some decent DPS, they're just not worth it.

Idk what to tell ya man, the state of mag dps endgame rn is dominated by magplar but with 1 pet magsorcs in second. No one runs a petless Magsorc anymore. If OP is asking about Magsorc then he should be aware of what everyone is actually using.

Iskiab

Donny_Vito wrote: »

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

Donny_Vito wrote: »

I'm not sure about Alcast build, but I do run IA on one of my fun PvE sorcs. I push about 40-45k DPS and the Minor Vulnerability is helpful to the rest of the group. Obviously if you're doing Vet Score runs, you wouldn't want this set since most likely one of the Support Roles would be running it. But then again, you wouldn't really want a MagSorc on Vet Score runs anyways.

Any vet trial group that's above Craglorn pugs will have very high minor vulnerability uptime. It's not just score groups. IA on a dps is really a complete waste in 12 man content unless for some reason your group specifically builds around that.

Also magsorcs being bad is old news. 2 pet dynamic LA rotation magsorcs can hit 62k+ solo. Magplar and Magsorc are the highest magicka dps now.

No one really likes pets in Trial Runs. They add extra overhead to the game, they steal buffs and heals, and are overall a pain in the rear. While the pet build can push out some decent DPS, they're just not worth it.

I don’t think personal preference is an issue in a hardcore trial group. If stopping mid fight and using the /dance emote in a pink tutu does more dps, you’ll be seeing a lot of ballerinas in trial groups. It’s just how it goes.