Necro so Far

Skander

The class seems all but overpowered.

What i really don't like is:
The corpses of its skills last way too little on the ground leaving you no time to use them
Some abilities should have more duration: maybe just 5 more seconds would be good.
Some abilities require to aim for corpses and there's just no time for that
People that respawn interrupt the ability on their corpse
Its heal burst ability gives you a big heal debuff
Lack of a good dot
Lack of a good stun
Lack of an executioner
Necro Spammable is weak


For everything else it's kinda good.

Waffennacht

Exactly what PTS people said

Skander

Waffennacht wrote: »

Exactly what PTS people said

I take that as a compliment

Waffennacht

Skander wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Exactly what PTS people said

I take that as a compliment

And should be taken as one! I re read it and was like "hrm that can be taken as it's already been said" but I meant it as; that sounds pretty accurate

ccmedaddy

Wait I was expecting a death recap

Morgul667

Agree with most of what you are saying

Qbiken

ccmedaddy wrote: »

Wait I was expecting a death recap

Came here for bleed recaps.......was disappointed to say the least

MaxJrFTW

We knew this already two months ago. The class is really good for pve though. Don't expect a buff or rework any time soon.

Master_Kas

Can we atleast get a non-class execute for magicka classes? The way stamina has access to two non class executes.

Really my biggest issue with necro atm besides the buggy blastbones.

Skander

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

We knew this already two months ago. The class is really good for pve though. Don't expect a buff or rework any time soon.

The it will be even worse then magden in pve. And useless in pvp

Qbiken

Skander wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

We knew this already two months ago. The class is really good for pve though. Don't expect a buff or rework any time soon.

The it will be even worse then magden in pve. And useless in pvp

I'm not sure if you're referring to stam or mag necro, but stam necro in PvE is the most busted thing I've seen in quite some time.

Skander

Qbiken wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

We knew this already two months ago. The class is really good for pve though. Don't expect a buff or rework any time soon.

The it will be even worse then magden in pve. And useless in pvp

I'm not sure if you're referring to stam or mag necro, but stam necro in PvE is the most busted thing I've seen in quite some time.

Magicka of course

Stamina has everything to outcome the class flaws

jhall03

Everything I'm reading and watching on the Necro confirms that us console plebs don't need to bother buying the expansion.

I'd like to thank all the PC players for figuring this out.

Iskiab

I don’t get the complaints. First people say it’s overpowered and pay to win. Then people say it’s not overpowered and not worth buying.

I have no complaints so far except for the blastbones bug. Fix that and I think the class will be fine.

Haashhtaag

Iskiab wrote: »

I don’t get the complaints. First people say it’s overpowered and pay to win. Then people say it’s not overpowered and not worth buying.

I have no complaints so far except for the blastbones bug. Fix that and I think the class will be fine.

I think the blastbones needs more health as well.

wheem_ESO

Iskiab wrote: »

I don’t get the complaints. First people say it’s overpowered and pay to win. Then people say it’s not overpowered and not worth buying.

I have no complaints so far except for the blastbones bug. Fix that and I think the class will be fine.

The claims of overpowered and pay to win were either before PTS started, or within the first week when some bugs had Necromancer PvE DPS being higher than it should have been.

Also, I think either the Blastbones bug was hotfixed somehow, or doesn't affect Rank 4 of the Magicka morph. Initially, my Blastbones was hitting like a wet noodle - less than my spammable, despite the tooltip being higher - but now it seems to be doing about what I would expect.

Ragnaroek93

Necro ults and their healing is too strong in my opinion, their damage is sadly rather bad in PvP (no reliable dot and no execute).

Imperial_Voice

Its against the forum rules to criticize ZoS or the devs. Which means it would be a violation of the community rules to say that ZoS was "lazy" or "intentionally ignoring community feedback" so of course I would never say those things.

I will say that these things were all pointed out on PTS for weeks along with many bugs and issues with Elsweyr and Necromamcer and literally none of it was addressed. Which makes me wonder why we even have a PTS in the first place.

katorga

Qbiken wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

MaxJrFTW wrote: »

We knew this already two months ago. The class is really good for pve though. Don't expect a buff or rework any time soon.

The it will be even worse then magden in pve. And useless in pvp

I'm not sure if you're referring to stam or mag necro, but stam necro in PvE is the most busted thing I've seen in quite some time.

Exactly how is stam necro PVE "the most busted thing I've seen"? I don't see it.

OnlyOnThursday

Agree with this, Necro skills are lacking any discernible Oompf in PVP. I PVP well(in my opinion) on all other magicka classes, Necro is OK in PVP but you really struggle to close the deal with anyone. Even wearing double damage sets, or proc sets, it is extraordinarily underwhelming.

Even with a dedicated healer standing right beside me, the best I'm accomplishing are a boatload of assists. I've tried about 25 different combinations of gear and skills so far, and nothing does it.

On a magNB, with a sustain set and caluurions, i can stun, throw a dot, and trigger the proc and fully expect that most non-tanks are going to die.

On a mag sorc, I can root, drop dots, and execute practically anyone.

On a magden I can CC, absorb incoming damage while feeding and then triggering an absolutely devastating ultimate, hit my bugs and wipe an entire BG team.

On a mag plar I can burn you down and blast you with my jesus beam, and there's little chance of recovery.

With the necro, there is no burst!

SpiderCultist

I'm going for the stam version, idk what I should expect (first I want to complete Undaunted) but in process of leveling I noticed many flaws of the mag version

this guy sums it up pretty well, take a look this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d42Dms33zY

maybe I should spec him for PVE and that's it, be it stam or mag

Skander

Ragnaroek93 wrote: »

Necro ults and their healing is too strong in my opinion, their damage is sadly rather bad in PvP (no reliable dot and no execute).

They lack a good burst heal. And their only burst heal gives them minor defile, costs 3.8k with a breton toon and doesn't refound itself as the templar heal

Mesoz

It's just Warden all over again, Mag is garbage and stam is the way to go. Unless you want to heal/support then mag can do ok.

katorga

OnlyOnThursday wrote: »

With the necro, there is no burst!

There is not a lot of anything, lol. No execute, no functional dots, no CC, no escape tool, no resource regen active skill, no mobility, and the burst skill it does have can be outrun, killed, CC'd, snared and rooted, in addition to the dodge, block and damage shield counters every other skill has.

(I wonder if the Blastbones can run through a negate bubble?)

Oh yeah, the burst heal automatically debuffs itself. and purging the debuff costs about 25% of the original heal.

You can't make this stuff up.

Still it will be fun to see if anything can be made to work with it.

godchucknzilla

So if blastbones gets some tweaks then the stam version is legit.

Neloth

Idk why they decided to make a class with only 2 offensive PvP skills, one of which is a crap spammable, while another is a bugged killable burst with AI of warden bear (it’s not very clever is some one missed the idea)

Mag necro seems like a completely PvE/support/releplay class to me... I want to be wrong, and maybe someone will show us how to kill something with brains using flame reach, buggedbones and ults, but in the meantime I’m going to play magblade, which seems to be the real class of the new chapter (it the measure the amount of pts cycles spent on them)

OnlyOnThursday

Neloth wrote: »

Idk why they decided to make a class with only 2 offensive PvP skills, one of which is a crap spammable, while another is a bugged killable burst with AI of warden bear (it’s not very clever is some one missed the idea)

Mag necro seems like a completely PvE/support/releplay class to me... I want to be wrong, and maybe someone will show us how to kill something with brains using flame reach, buggedbones and ults, but in the meantime I’m going to play magblade, which seems to be the real class of the new chapter (it the measure the amount of pts cycles spent on them)

100% Agree

Skander

Meh, the only good thing about the class are the heals. But you need 3 of them to be comparable to a templar.