are the pvp artifacts real?

Sergykid

went into the eso-sets site and found they have a new link, "eso-skillbook". There i noticed this section, "Pvp artifacts". Checked it, and i am really confused now.

is this some sick joke? tell me it's not real. I stopped pvping in Cryodill a long time ago, but i feel sorry for all the poor players there. Is this their solution against zergs?

found it here:
https://eso-skillbook.com/skilltree/pvp-artifacts

i have read about it here:
https://alcasthq.com/eso-volendrung-artifact/

also, are there more? why does Fextralife say some have been here since 4.3.0
https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Artifacts

mann9753b16_ESO

Well, yeah, they announced that ages ago, and most PvP players are actually really exited for these artifacts...

Edaphon

Yes, it's real.

The first one (Volendrung) will get added with Elsweyr next week.

UndeniablyAVG

So there's not a single heal in the skill line?

Can't help but think this is useless.

therift

1) Yes, Artifacts for Cyrodiil are real. They were announced in January's Elswehr preview.

2) It's an exciting addition to Cyrodiil gameplay, not a sick joke. Nearly every PvP player I know is looking forward to them.

3) Zergs don't need a 'solution'. It will probably take a zerg to capture Artifact weapons.

4) Yes, there will be more. Volendrung is the first.

Keep in mind that Artifact weapons, while powerful, are highly conditional and temporary. I suspect that they will be a new focal point to capture, deny, and re-capture, much like scrolls.

After 5 years, it's about time we got something really new and fresh for Cyrodiil.

NeillMcAttack

Why do these sound like a negative addition to you OP? Isn't Cyrodiil supposed to be fun?

Nestor

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

So there's not a single heal in the skill line?

Can't help but think this is useless.

Considering Volendrung is a weapon and not a Resto Staff, there should not be any heals

therift

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

So there's not a single heal in the skill line?

Can't help but think this is useless.

If you are referencing Alcast's information, that skill line is particular to Volendrung.

We'll have to wait and see if any of the others have healing skills.

CompM4s

Looks like alot of fun

UndeniablyAVG

Nestor wrote: »

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

So there's not a single heal in the skill line?

Can't help but think this is useless.

Considering Volendrun is a weapon and not a Resto Staff, there should not be any heals

Its a magical artifact mate, have a bit of imagination.

Nestor

The Lore is already established for these artifacts. So imagination does not have much to do with it.

@UndeniablyAVG

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Famed_Artifacts_of_Tamriel

therift

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

So there's not a single heal in the skill line?

Can't help but think this is useless.

Considering Volendrun is a weapon and not a Resto Staff, there should not be any heals

Its a magical artifact mate, have a bit of imagination.

Frankly, I don't think any of the Artifacts should have healing. That's what group healers are for. Also, it seems ZoS is backing away from items that provide powerful group healing considering the latest, fourth round of nerfs to Earthgore.

I can imagine, though, that a single Artifact could do some sort of group buff... perhaps Spellbreaker absorbs magic and heals the group? *shrugs*

Nestor

Eiledons Ward is the artifact that can provide heals,.others can provide protection from various attacks

gepe87

I want Wabbajack to turn enemies into guars.

therift

Nestor wrote: »

Eiledons Ward is the artifact that can provide heals,.others can provide protection from various attacks

Forgot about that one. So excited to see how these weapons unfold. And the new specific skill lines... yay!

UndeniablyAVG

therift wrote: »

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

So there's not a single heal in the skill line?

Can't help but think this is useless.

Considering Volendrun is a weapon and not a Resto Staff, there should not be any heals

Its a magical artifact mate, have a bit of imagination.

Frankly, I don't think any of the Artifacts should have healing. That's what group healers are for. Also, it seems ZoS is backing away from items that provide powerful group healing considering the latest, fourth round of nerfs to Earthgore.

I can imagine, though, that a single Artifact could do some sort of group buff... perhaps Spellbreaker absorbs magic and heals the group? *shrugs*

I never asked for a group heal, a self heal is necessary. With this artifact I would be worse off in a 1 v 1 than without it. I guess their idea is to promote group play, which i suppose for some is a step in the right direction. I like the damage it can do to walls other than that I can't see it being worth the effort to obtain.

BUT... I normally play in a small group with no healer so it does not fit my playstyle.

therift

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

therift wrote: »

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

UndeniablyAVG wrote: »

So there's not a single heal in the skill line?

Can't help but think this is useless.

Considering Volendrun is a weapon and not a Resto Staff, there should not be any heals

Its a magical artifact mate, have a bit of imagination.

Frankly, I don't think any of the Artifacts should have healing. That's what group healers are for. Also, it seems ZoS is backing away from items that provide powerful group healing considering the latest, fourth round of nerfs to Earthgore.

I can imagine, though, that a single Artifact could do some sort of group buff... perhaps Spellbreaker absorbs magic and heals the group? *shrugs*

I never asked for a group heal, a self heal is necessary. With this artifact I would be worse off in a 1 v 1 than without it. I guess their idea is to promote group play, which i suppose for some is a step in the right direction. I like the damage it can do to walls other than that I can't see it being worth the effort to obtain.

BUT... I normally play in a small group with no healer so it does not fit my playstyle.

I don't think they had dueling in mind with Artifacts. That need to feed AP will be difficult with small groups with Volendrung. That weapon is definitely intended for keep buster groups.

Perhaps one of the others would be geared towards small groups... something I agree should be considered, but how would that work? I think most iterations that benefit small group will be even better in large group, unless some sort of constraints are placed (eg affects up to six members).

Thoughts?

UndeniablyAVG

therift wrote: »

I don't think they had dueling in mind with Artifacts. That need to feed AP will be difficult with small groups with Volendrung. That weapon is definitely intended for keep buster groups.

Perhaps one of the others would be geared towards small groups... something I agree should be considered, but how would that work? I think most iterations that benefit small group will be even better in large group, unless some sort of constraints are placed (eg affects up to six members).

Thoughts?

I guess we will have to see what the other artifacts provide, I agree that it is hard to buff a small group and not the zerg. However this weapon does look like a great 'zerg' weapon, there are usually multiple healers and it can be hard to target select in a crowd meaning whoever has this can just unleash massive damage. On my server zergs really didn't need and extra weapon in their arsenal!

Personally I would have added a passive effect to heal upon killing someone. Considering this has absolutely zero defensive ability an effect like that would reward you for being offensive.

Do you know if holding the weapon will increase your attributes at all? And if you die while carrying it what happens? Can it be picked up from your corpse, tbh I haven't looked into it very deeply, it just seems having no self heal is suicide in pvp.

I am interested to see how often they intend on changing these artifacts.

TheBonesXXX

Unfortunately they added more DAoC, wasting resources on trivial novelties.

I'm not excited at all.

peoplething

Superficially, it does seem kinda gimmicky, but maybe it'll workout to be amazing.

Personally though, and much like Emp, I have zero interest in obtaining one.

If the only way to keep it going is to continually kill stuff for AP, you know they'll be dudes hoarding it by passing their keyboard to other dudes in shifts. I hope nobody keels over dead trying to hold on to one of these things.

RouDeR

Now this i call fun !

Sergykid

who needs healing with it. Just run a troll tank build, like trollking beekeeper orgnum, and the weapon provides the damage.

therift

Sergykid wrote: »

who needs healing with it. Just run a troll tank build, like trollking beekeeper orgnum, and the weapon provides the damage.

Because the weapon will quickly bring your health to zero if you aren't earning AP. Sure, you could tear through a zerg with one, with support, but then you're out of AP fuel, and you'll be dead regardless of build.

Lack of healing is why Volendrung is useless to small scale and duelist players.