Not getting kicked out of Cyro Campaign when logging out.

Kikke

Since when did they change so you don't get kicked out when you logout out of an pop locked campaign? Used to be instant kick from campaign on logout before. And what does this do with the pop lock as a whole?

Reason I'm asking is because I've often seen recently that AD have been pop locked, yet no AD too see.

Dominion_Nightblade

I've noticed it has to do with how long you have been logged off. For example, if I log off and log right back in, I'll still be in a popped campaign. However, if I log out and stay logged out for a min, then I'll get the boot. Also if you go in que and log off, you will still be in the que if you log back in before it is up.

AD is everywhere when I log in

Kikke

hmm, I can log off on one of my PvP alts, jump vivec on pop locked. Leave him in there and even after a week when I log back on him he is still in cyro. And the question is if this is so, what does that do too the pop lock?

The AD comment was referring too a incident on EU Vivec tonight. But it made me wonder xD

Dominion_Nightblade

That is because it is not popped when you log back in a week later. I only get the boot after a while when it is popped. And you will hopefully need to get a dev to answer that. Or someone who has done their homework.

Dominion_Nightblade

Oh lol, I didn't see the AD part till after. I'm PCNA. Although I avoid prime time due to lag, I see plenty of yellows morning and night.

technohic

There is a timer from after you log where it holds your spot. Believe it was put in so people who crash could get back in and not go to the back of the line. Think it gives you 5-10 minutes.

After that time, it depends on if your faction is full when you go to login

Kikke

Ok, so you count towards the faction pop lock for 5-10min after the game sees you as offline?

technohic

That's what I'd assume based on how it behaves. Dont worry. You aren't contributing less than many that are actively in standing around somewhere

Kikke

So theoretically, if a zerg of 40 people instantly swap faction, then for up too 10 min they will count for both factions?

technohic

Kikke wrote: »

So theoretically, if a zerg of 40 people instantly swap faction, then for up too 10 min they will count for both factions?

I dont know that would work. Seems like if I get hard dropped on 1 character and cant get back in game on that character at all, if I log in another character then log back out then try the first character again; I wind up then able to get back in game outside of Cyrodiil. Not sure if its timer at that point or if it removes your first character because you logged in with an alt.

Kikke

Oki, thanks for the answers

Morgul667

Kikke wrote: »

So theoretically, if a zerg of 40 people instantly swap faction, then for up too 10 min they will count for both factions?

You would need a dev to answer that but yeah that is the logic

All though i crash often and dont think the timer is 10 minutes

Should be like 3-5 minutes. Not enough time to reboot+ restart steam + game

zyk

Kikke wrote: »

So theoretically, if a zerg of 40 people instantly swap faction, then for up too 10 min they will count for both factions?

I do not believe so.

When you are disconnected from the server without logging out, the server will hold your place for a period of time. I would say it's approximately 5 minutes, but it can be extended based on when the server recognizes when you were disconnected and how much lag there is. If you log in with a different character upon return, your character that was in Cyrodiil loses their place.

If one logs out of a campaign normally, they lose their place. If there is another player queued, they are allowed to enter to take their place.

I think some confusion stems from the population lock icon. There are two types of poplock: hard and soft. When softlocked, the population indicator shows a lock icon, but players can enter without a queue. With a hard poplock, there is a queue.

The scenario you presented of a zerg trying game the queue system to gain a population advantage over another faction is not possible under normal circumstances.

It's common for players in Cyrodiil to ask "where is everyone??" when the campaign is poplocked. In my experience, that might mean different things. For example, large 500 player PVE guilds sometimes have IC nights in which they take one or more large groups to IC. If your faction has one or more large groups in IC, that will have a noticeable impact in Cyro. But there are probably dozens of relevant factors that cause this.

Kikke

Thanks a lot for the replies Think I get it now xP