Ruins of Mazzatun Challenger: A few questions if I may.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

This is an achievement I would really like to do, as it holds the only skin I actually like.

Now don't worry, I'm not demanding ZOS to nerf the difficulty or sell the skin on the store.

I'm a radical sort...

I'm asking for advice on how to get better, to rise to the challenge.

As it happens, I ran the normal version of the dungeon with a fantastic PuG last night, with a top-quality healer and tank, as well as myself and a guildie fulfilling the DD roles.

I just want to ask, what should I know about the challenger achievement? What is the time limit? WHat makes veteran different?

Any help and advice is, as always, much appreciated.

Donny_Vito

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

This is an achievement I would really like to do, as it holds the only skin I actually like.

Now don't worry, I'm not demanding ZOS to nerf the difficulty or sell the skin on the store.

I'm a radical sort...

I'm asking for advice on how to get better, to rise to the challenge.

As it happens, I ran the normal version of the dungeon with a fantastic PuG last night, with a top-quality healer and tank, as well as myself and a guildie fulfilling the DD roles.

I just want to ask, what should I know about the challenger achievement? What is the time limit? WHat makes veteran different?

Any help and advice is, as always, much appreciated.

I believe the Time Limit is 30 minutes, but you can always check in your Journal. Find the section Ruins of Mazzatun is in (I forgot which DLC it's under) and you can see the requirements for all the achievements needed for the Skin.

Whats makes Vet different? Well the adds have much more health and can output more damage against you. If you want to "cheese" the achievement it's fairly easy to bypass a lot of the adds (especially those Fire Spitter ones as they can wreck your no-death).

The hardest part for most people is the Final Boss on Hard-Mode. You'll need to burn quickly to get to certain thresholds and then you can pace yourself, but after 25% it's strictly a DPS race to the finish as to avoid Totems, extra adds, and the vines she shoots out around her. Every one of your members should be on a mic/voice-chat system as you need to call out which statue to hit when one of the members gets selected (can't remember the name of the debuff).

Donny_Vito

I'll also add, when our team beat RoM on HM, we set names for each of the Statues on the final boss. This helped us not having one person run to the statue to identify it. When you're doing the dungeon on normal (or on Vet but not HM), one person can "identify" the statue so it glows for the person who is tagged, but when you're doing HM you do not have that option. So if your group decides on a naming convention (we used like Left 1, Right 1, Left 2, etc...) it's much easier for the tagged person to get rid of the debuff by destroying the statue.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Donny_Vito wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

This is an achievement I would really like to do, as it holds the only skin I actually like.

Now don't worry, I'm not demanding ZOS to nerf the difficulty or sell the skin on the store.

I'm a radical sort...

I'm asking for advice on how to get better, to rise to the challenge.

As it happens, I ran the normal version of the dungeon with a fantastic PuG last night, with a top-quality healer and tank, as well as myself and a guildie fulfilling the DD roles.

I just want to ask, what should I know about the challenger achievement? What is the time limit? WHat makes veteran different?

Any help and advice is, as always, much appreciated.

I believe the Time Limit is 30 minutes, but you can always check in your Journal. Find the section Ruins of Mazzatun is in (I forgot which DLC it's under) and you can see the requirements for all the achievements needed for the Skin.

Whats makes Vet different? Well the adds have much more health and can output more damage against you. If you want to "cheese" the achievement it's fairly easy to bypass a lot of the adds (especially those Fire Spitter ones as they can wreck your no-death).

The hardest part for most people is the Final Boss on Hard-Mode. You'll need to burn quickly to get to certain thresholds and then you can pace yourself, but after 25% it's strictly a DPS race to the finish as to avoid Totems, extra adds, and the vines she shoots out around her. Every one of your members should be on a mic/voice-chat system as you need to call out which statue to hit when one of the members gets selected (can't remember the name of the debuff).

I see. Thank you for the insight. You have given me much to think about.

Tasear

Speed was easier before they nerfed tree shortcut 😢

HM have the healer stand by door after mini boss phase.

Phases go like this btw
Boss
Trash ( tank needs to grab stoneshaper)
Mini boss

If without commons everyone moves to lit up statute.

Purge reduces the potencey of totem.
Tank punture totem
DPS kill it fast or everyone's dead
Tank might want vkyosa for that moment.

TL:DR
It's super easy if follow the phases

Ratzkifal

Speed and no-death are pretty much the same run as some of the skippable mobs are also quite dangerous for your no-death achievement. The puzzle room is probably the biggest difference as you can and should take your time on no-death just to be sure, although it's usually still not a challenge even if you screw up. Other than that, invisibility potions are your friend and beware the mudcrabs.

Hardmode works best if you have discord/skype/teamspeak/.. etc. It is doable without, but that is a bit more tricky. The main difference between normal and hm is that you can't use the synergy to tell the person who needs to destroy the glowing statue which one it is. You have to tell him/her through other means. Lastly, you want to save your ultimates for the last phase as it can easily wipe you if you are taking too long.

AbysmalGhul

The no-death achievement is fairly easy. The hm is a different beast and can get out of control if you don't pay attention

When you enter the last area, if you look to your right, you'll see that there is a door. At certain health intervals, a stoneshaper will come out of that door and will wreck everyone but the tank. The best thing you can do is bring everyone close to that door. This way when the add comes out, you can burn him quick with the totem.

1. The health of the totem will grow every time it respawns. You can actually dodge roll back and break the link if the burn is too low or if you're running out of the resources it's draining from you. Stay fairly close to each other because the totem spawns near the furthest person
2. Make sure the tank aggros the mini bosses immediately.
3. Pick up the hist that the boss throws. If an enemy picks it up, they will become super charged
4. When Xal-Nur charges you, don't kite him away. Roll dodge into him (straight line)and he'll stop charging you
5. When the boss slaps a teammate with that vision/statue mechanic, the group should run to the correct statue instead shooting their staves at it. This will eliminate the confusion.
6. If your healer has to do the statue mechanic (usually before execute for some reason) , make sure you have a very strong self heal and a group heal if needed. You're going to need your healer for the execute phase.
7. Before execute phase: I say around 30-35% get your resources back...heavy attack, pop a potion etc etc
8. During execute phase: You'll be tempted to drop ultis and barriers right when execute starts. Save them till about 20% because there might be a chance that you run out of gas on the last few percent of the boss.

Peekachu99

It’s actually be nerfed significantly, especially the lizard boss, but you still need to skip all the mobs you can (vampire + sneak, ideally). With all four man challengers, you attempt speed + no death in one run, then HM in another. Also, you can run through the arena section and jump up the back to skip those mobs, too.

Youkoudan totem exploit can still be used to my knowledge, but that’s the “Felicity Huffman” approach, if ya know what I mean Not recommended.

MJallday

HM is relatively easy tbh. Mind you I spent a lot of time in there learning it to make it easy!

1) everyone on mics for the totems you need to talk constantly
2) the boss/ adds /totem phases at 75/50
Are easy- use the add to get ultimate back by heavy attacking - you need to go into 25 pc with everyone having ultimate . Up until 25% this fight is pretty calm, just follow mechs as above

3) 25px comes and it gets real. Stay on totem, Drop nova central on totem/ everyone if u can. Drop destro ultimates , tank wearing earthgore will help - have one person with a self heal kite /kill the totem and aoe - 25-0 needs to happen v quickly otherwise it’s a wipe. Literally nuke it in 10 seconds or less. 3dd 1 tank setup helps. Wear lots of bloodthirsty!

The last phase is all about massive DPS. Like literally everyone 35k plus if not more (it can be done with less obvs bit it REALLY helps here) Everyone full resource going into it.

Donny_Vito

Did you get the Skin yet, or make any progress on the achievements?