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Need help with Stamblade DPS.

ShadowDisciple
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Hey all...so after 2 years of not playing i got back to ESO about a week ago. And im having a bit of trouble with my DPS.

Im rocking 5 Briar + 5 Hunding ..have gold daggers but not nirnhoned one (its researching..14 more days :S )

Ill go for velidreth but i am sitting at 297CP rn so i have blood spawn on for a bit sustain.

Stats with Cod (blue max stam and hp): r6xCdMN.jpg

I weave my light attacks...95~ LA per 120 Seconds and i proc grim focus at lesst2 times per cycle...often 3....i have standard setup with Caltrops, poison, leeching, volley on bow bar and killers blade, surprise attack, trap beast, rending slashes and grim focus...

And i break maybe 17k on average on skeleton 100%-0%....

any tips?
  • Druid40
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    Are you using Major Brutality + Major Savagery + Stamina potions?
  • ShadowDisciple
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    Druid40 wrote: »
    Are you using Major Brutality + Major Savagery + Stamina potions?

    No not on dummies. I use only stamina potions when parsing.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Druid40 wrote: »
    Are you using Major Brutality + Major Savagery + Stamina potions?

    No not on dummies. I use only stamina potions when parsing.

    Are you sustaining alright using blue food? In other words, can you get through without a heavy attack? Based on what I am seeing, you are on the right track. You really need Major Brutality and Savagery if you want to compare your rotation to what you are seeing from others. Nothing wrong with practicing without weapon pots, but they are going to move the needle on your your DPS, as would a better monster set. I would bet with just those two changes you would be in the low to mid 20s.

    The more obvious issue is that 95/120= .79 LA/sec. Its not bad, but its also not great. The best of the best are more like .93-.95 so you definitely have some room there. At your current ratio, you are either missing weaves, or more likely, the pace of your rotation is a bit slow. You are certainly better off going slow with a good weave and gradually increasing your pace, then going for a fast weave that misses a bunch of light attacks.

    The best also consistently get 3 bow procs per cast of grim relentless focus. There is certainly a lot of room left on your rotation, even at your current gear and CP levels.
    Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on May 10, 2019 5:44PM
  • kathandira
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    Hey all...so after 2 years of not playing i got back to ESO about a week ago. And im having a bit of trouble with my DPS.

    Im rocking 5 Briar + 5 Hunding ..have gold daggers but not nirnhoned one (its researching..14 more days :S )

    Ill go for velidreth but i am sitting at 297CP rn so i have blood spawn on for a bit sustain.

    Stats with Cod (blue max stam and hp): r6xCdMN.jpg

    I weave my light attacks...95~ LA per 120 Seconds and i proc grim focus at lesst2 times per cycle...often 3....i have standard setup with Caltrops, poison, leeching, volley on bow bar and killers blade, surprise attack, trap beast, rending slashes and grim focus...

    And i break maybe 17k on average on skeleton 100%-0%....

    any tips?

    From the looks of things, you might be missing Penetration. If your CP is below 300, you are likely not applying anything in it, or if you are, you are missing points in something else that should increase your damage.

    Beyond that, it's all about perfecting your rotation as Oreyn_Bearclaw pointed out.
    PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc
  • ShadowDisciple
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    Well big thanks my dudes. Ill get velidreth set in the next few days and try out a parse with weapon dmg pot and tell you how it went. Once again thanks alot.
  • Xogath
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    You're missing Major Brutality from Weapon Pots and probably some Penetration.

    Major Brutality is 20% Weapon Damage, so that alone is a big chunk. As for Penetration, I would use your CP and cap Penetration before the other nodes in Ritual.

    I forget the exact numbers, but I believe builds using Nirnhoned/Sharpened puts 46 points in to Penetration; around 6k or so? before Major Fracture.

    Those two bits alone will account for quite a bit of DPS, since they both affect ALL damage, even Light Attacks, and not just Critical Damage.

    Speaking of that, as much as I hate to say it, 3x Bloodthirsty accessories is superior to 3x Infused (with Weapon Damage enchants, of course), despite the fact that the Weapon Damage affects everything even before the execute phase.

    During the execute phase, I wpuld shift my priority to maintaining as close to 100% uptime on: Rearming Trap (Minor Force), Poison Injection (it executes sub-50%), and Endless Hail.

    Keep weaving, of course, and on the front bar only use Killer's Blade and Light Attacks, while maintaining Relentless Focus (Minor Berserk), and firing the Bow as much as you can.

    During the execute phase you want to shift your focus to your most damaging abilities while maintaining the important buffs. I appied this mindset to my StamDK, and using the same gear as you (minus Briarheart, replaced with Deadly Strikes in the same slots), and my execute phase DPS increased immensely.

    I haven't tried the same thing on my Stamblade, as I haven't transmuted my Briarheart accessories to Bloodthirsty yet. (I use 3x Infused on my Stamblade.)

    Outside of that, the only gains you're going to see ate going to come from rotation perfection and more CP. I'm unsire of the execute phase bit I mentioned is the most optimal, but it seems to work well on my StamDK (I use 2H/Bow on it with Executioner/Reverse Slice).

    Oh, and of course.. Maelstrom Bow will be about a 5k DPS increase by itself. :smile:
  • ShadowDisciple
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    @Xogath

    Thanks my dude...good info..il transmute the briar jewlery next...need 5-6 trans stones for 3 pieces... and ive done VetMaelstrom like maybe 2 times before my break 2 years ago..ill have to grind it a bit the next week.

    Againt thanks alot my dude @Xogath and all others for help...will deffinatelly update on the proggress.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    @Xogath

    Thanks my dude...good info..il transmute the briar jewlery next...need 5-6 trans stones for 3 pieces... and ive done VetMaelstrom like maybe 2 times before my break 2 years ago..ill have to grind it a bit the next week.

    Againt thanks alot my dude @Xogath and all others for help...will deffinatelly update on the proggress.

    Definitely go get that VMA bow, it is arguably the most powerful single item in the game. If you have done VMA 2 years ago, it will feel like a breeze today. And nothing wrong with going after a better monster set. Both involve playing the game, which is what we are all here for anyway.

    Other than that, just my 2 cents, hold off on making a bunch of gear changes right before a new chapter is about to go live. Gear is important, but your rotation is WAY more important. I would focus my efforts on improving your rotation for a few weeks before you start tinkering with your gear. Jewelry traits at your CP arent going to bring your from 17k to 30k+, but rotation improvements will.
  • ShadowDisciple
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    Quick update: With Velideth and weapon dmg pot..it went up to 23k with even a *** rotation..couple heavies near the end and missed abilities (i la twice in a row)...so damn..lets get that maelstrom bow.
  • Xogath
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    Haha, good to know!

    There's a little quirk with the vMA Bow I should mention here though, for those that may not know.

    If you're just out and about soloing things, it isn't going to increase your damage much at all.. the reason for this is in order for Volley to benefit from the bonus, it has to deal damage once before you swap the bar.

    So the start of yiur Bow rotation being Endless Hail is the reason for this; EA ticks once or twice, gains the benefit of the vMA Bow, then when you swap ot continues to increase until it runs out.

    I didn't realize this until I noticed one day that the ticks weren't getting any stronger and came here to ask about why that might be. Others informed me of how the vMA Bow works compared to other weapons. (The Staves for example grant a buff as soon as you activate them, where tje Bow does not.)

    I don't think much is going to change gear-wise outside of Trial gear, but the most notable thing is you'll have more options to try out instead of Hunding's/Briarheart. Since Stamblade damage is largely DoTs, Deadly Strikes is also a good choice instead of Briarheart, or maybe even instead of Hunding's.. I haven't tried the two (Briarheart + Deadly Strikes) so I can't say if using Hunding's with either set is superior to the other.
  • ShadowDisciple
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    @Xogath ye i read that somewhere...endless > caltrops > poison inj should do it...

    ye im rpeparing for trials etc so i wanna maximize my dps...i used to be only pvp plyer but now when i came back i have an itch for some pve :P
  • russelmmendoza
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    Get viciou ophidian set and relequen, with your skill and rotation youll be fulling off 40k dps.
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